NASA never landed on the Moon - Apollo Hoax

[Winston]

It has been nearly fifty years since the last human being set foot upon the lunar surface. Were budget constraints really the driving force behind this decision? Or was it something far more sinister? If the accounts of certain whistle-blowers are to be believed, then it might just be that there is something on the Moon.

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[Winston]

To celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first Apollo Moon landing, they put out a documentary of the news footage from it. It's pretty exciting, whether it was real or not. Watching it makes you feel proud to be an American. lol. Check it out below. I didn't know 1969 footage could be so crystal clear like today. lol

Apollo 11 (2019)

Synopsis
On its fiftieth anniversary, the events surrounding the actual Apollo 11 space mission are presented solely using archival footage and still photographs of or associated with the mission. The events span from the eleventh hour preparations for the launch to shortly after the safe touchdown of the capsule with its three astronauts back on Earth. The mission is historic as the first time humans had stepped on the surface of the Earth's moon. It arguably made household names of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin as the first and second to walk on the moon, and slightly less so for the third astronaut, Michael Collins, who remained inside the capsule at the time. It was arguably the most dangerous space mission at the time in part to the astronauts leaving the safety of the capsule.

Download link:
https://yts.mx/movies/apollo-11-2019

[Jacob Cooper]

Now it is 2021, and I see that most people here still believe that the Moon landing is a hoax. First, I wanted to start discussion with you, present evidence, and so on, but the more I read the messages you write, the more I understand that you all believe in what you made up. Continue doing it if you like it. I don't understand why scientists and engineers spent their lives on investigations, risk their lives when there are people like you...
Are there people who weren't susceptible to conspirologists' tricks and managed to save the clarity of mind?

[Winston]

Modern comedy movie about how Stanley Kubrick faked the moon landings.

Moonwalkers (2015) Trailer



https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2718440/

https://yts.mx/movies/moonwalkers-2015

[Winston]

Now it is 2021, and I see that most people here still believe that the Moon landing is a hoax. First, I wanted to start discussion with you, present evidence, and so on, but the more I read the messages you write, the more I understand that you all believe in what you made up. Continue doing it if you like it. I don't understand why scientists and engineers spent their lives on investigations, risk their lives when there are people like you...
Are there people who weren't susceptible to conspirologists' tricks and managed to save the clarity of mind?

Go ahead and present evidence. It's all been discussed before. I already wrote a long reply to you here:

viewtopic.php?style=11&p=356173#p356173

[Winston]

Wow look how utterly hilariously dumb Neil deGrasse Tyson is while defending the moon landing. His logic is horrible and lazy! See this logical analysis of his statement below. How is such a moron a popularizer of science? Is he trying to be funny? How can anyone be this dumb unless it's on purpose?

[Huddo]

I won’t enter into debate on conspiracy theories, but I will say I had the pleasure of attending a school astronomy camp at a telescope complex in Western Australia that specialises in laser ranging of satellites, with my Daughter.

She had far more understanding about the laser ranging experiment witnessed. A high powered laser was aimed at the series of reflectors places on the moon surface and also away from the reflectors on several areas on natural moon surface to show the difference in reading between both. According the the scientist, the reflector reading can only come from a man made object.

[Winston]

I won’t enter into debate on conspiracy theories, but I will say I had the pleasure of attending a school astronomy camp at a telescope complex in Western Australia that specialises in laser ranging of satellites, with my Daughter.

She had far more understanding about the laser ranging experiment witnessed. A high powered laser was aimed at the series of reflectors places on the moon surface and also away from the reflectors on several areas on natural moon surface to show the difference in reading between both. According the the scientist, the reflector reading can only come from a man made object.

That was addressed long ago. They were bouncing lasers off the moon in 1966 before the Moon Landings. It was featured in National Geographic. Unmanned probes could put laser reflectors on the moon too. That doesn't prove that man went there. Use any telescope in the world and try to find the Apollo Lunar Landers and Lunar Rovers, you will find that you will not find anything. Nothing. Go to any observatory and ask them to show you the Apollo artifacts on the moon. They will claim that it's possible but they will not allow it, and that's that, no reason given. Obviously there's something they're not going to. A guy in Australia already tried to do this. He filmed the whole thing. See his website: www.moonfaker.com.

[Winston]

http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html

Q: What about the laser retro-reflectors on the moon?

A: The Russians successfully placed such retro-reflectors on the surface of the moon, yet they have never claimed to have put a man on the moon. The Russian reflectors were carried by the unmanned rovers Lunokhod 1 & 2. One of these reflectors is still in use. The recent Mythbusters show claimed that the only way retro-reflectors could have got there is by astronauts. This was said while on a visit of the APOLLO laser ranging facility which uses the Lunokhod 2 mirror.

If there are reflectors at the Apollo sites, they were dropped there by unmanned probes. The US certainly had the capability to do this since they had earlier placed several Surveyor probes on the moon. In fact, the lunar retro-reflector experiments were originally intended for the Surveyor missions. Hence similar probes carrying reflectors would have done the trick.

Some propagandists claimed that if there was no reflector on the lunar surface, we’d never get the laser signal back because the moon would not reflect it. This false claim even found its way onto Mythbusters. When it was pointed out that the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)16 and the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory17 were able to bounce lasers off the moon and back to earth without the aid of any retro-reflector, propagandists have now switched the statement into saying the retro-reflectors can reflect lasers with better accuracy than the bare lunar surface. They even tried to use Jarrah as a fall guy for the propagandists’ erroneous claim that the moon is unable to reflect lasers back to earth!

[Gali]

But even in the face of defeat, the Soviet leadership did not deny the veracity of the images transmitted across the world by NASA as millions across the world watched Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong step foot on the moon's surface just hours after Apollo 11 landed in 1969.

"We were there at Soviet military base 32103," the Russian cosmonaut Aleksei Leonov, the first man to walk in space, told The Guardian recently. "I swear to God we sat there with our fingers crossed. We hoped the guys would make it. We wanted this to happen. We knew those who were on board and they knew us, too."

https://www.rferl.org/a/one-small-step- ... 65499.html

[Winston]

http://www.moonfaker.com/faqs.html

Q: Why did the Russians remain silent?

A: Jarrah can see three reasons.

Firstly, if you really want to know what Russia thought of manned lunar exploration, just ask Jodrell Bank’s Sir Bernard Lovell. In May of 1963, the President of the Soviet Academy of Sciences Mstislav Keldysh instructed him to inform NASA’s deputy administrator Hugh Dryden that Russian had to postpone manned moon flights indefinitely, because they could see no way to protect their cosmonauts from the insurmountable dangers posed by solar flare radiation3, 4, 5, 6. Well into 1966, around the time Russia put Lunik 10 in lunar orbit, Sir Bernard remained in contact with the Soviets asking when they intended to send a human to the moon.
In 1999, Sir Bernard was quoted by the BBC along these lines: “I had frequently asked my Soviet contacts when they intended to send a human being to the moon and their response was always ‘when we can be absolutely certain of getting him back alive’. And they did not believe the Americans would do this and in fact it’s pretty clear that the Americans did take considerable risk.”

Well into December 1968, Alexei Leonov and his comrades pleaded the politburo to let them pilot Zond 7 around the moon, as the Zonds 5 & 6 had already flown around the moon and returned to earth in September and November of that year – the former of which was successfully recovered. But their pleas were rejected despite having proven their capabilities with Zond 5.

Jarrah believes that Russia may likely have planned to fake their manned moon flights too. Aboard Zond 5 was an audio cassette player which played back the voices of cosmonauts Pavel Popevich and Vitali Sevastyanov7, 8, 9. At the time many thought Russia had sent the first men around the moon, but upon return of the capsule it was revealed that it was only a tape recording. NASA, who at the time weren’t officially planning a ‘manned’ moon mission until April or May 1969, responded to the tape recorder stunt by changing Apollo 8’s flight plan from a high earth orbit flight to a lunar orbit flight in December 1968.

Russia had the opportunity to claim victory over the Americans, but they let it slip through their fingers. But even if they were to cry foul on the Americans, it would only jeopardize their own program. If the USSR was to come out and say that Apollo was faked due to lethal radiation, the Americans would just as easily cry foul if the Soviets proceeded to fake their own for the same reason.

The second reason for their silence would be because of free trade deals. Since the Kennedy administration, the United States government and its allies had been selling tons of American wheat to the Soviets. It’s no different to modern times: the US cuts multi-billion dollar trade deals with the Chinese and in turn China gets kicked off America’s list of human rights violators, likewise Russia gets tons of wheat in return for silence.

Thirdly, nowadays the Russian and American space programs are partners in crime. In the early 70s the US and Soviets agreed to work cooperatively in the exploration of space. This international cooperation became a reality in 1975 with the Apollo Soyuz Test Project, the first joint mission. Many other missions followed and Russia essentially became the United States’ best ally. In the 1990s, with the Buran program cancelled, the Russians had no shuttle to get to their Mir space station, only Soyuz. And the US had no equivalent to Mir. The solution was the Shuttle-Mir program, in which US shuttles carried astronauts and cosmonauts to and from the Russian Mir space station. Now the US and Russia have collaborated towards the construction of the International Space Station, involving not only them but also every other space nation – except for the US’s best trade partner, the Chinese.

The Russians were also kind enough to give American astronauts a ride to space aboard the Soyuz during the time the shuttle was grounded. And with the termination of the shuttle program, the US will now be reliant on Russia’s Soyuz to get to the ISS. It’s essentially a one-world space government, one big happy family. No one will blow the whistle on anybody.

[Gali]

Because everybody knew it did happen that is the sane explanation. period.

Russians lost the space race. The final blow came from Reagan with his space program which basically ended the Sowjets.

History 101

[Winston]

Because everybody knew it did happen that is the sane explanation. period.

Russians lost the space race. The final blow came from Reagan with his space program which basically ended the Sowjets.

History 101

Not everyone. There were skeptics at the time, like Bill Kaysing and others. Many Russians didn't believe it either. Russians are good at smelling BS, better than Americans are. And Japanese engineers in Japan also say the trashy junkyard Lunar Lander in the space museum could not have gone to the moon. It looks like it was put together in a junkyard.

You don't know if the Apollo Moon Missions were real. You take it on faith. Because you want to believe it.

I have 30 proofs that the Moon Landing was faked. No one has refuted them, because they can't, so they ignore them. Because maintaining one's beliefs is more important than the truth.

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Conspiracies.htm

Technology never goes backward. If they went to the moon they could do it today. But they can't. NASA says they lost the technology to go to the moon, and does not know how to get men safely through the Van Allen Radiation Belt. And also they lost all the original telemetry tapes too. Obvious BS. Why do you believe NASA is honest and clean? There's no reason to believe that. Especially since they murdered people like Thomas Baron, Gus Grissom and the two astronauts on Apollo One, etc.

[Gali]

Yes right you know it better than the Sowjets and all the other countries for that matter. Very sane argument.

[Winston]

This Mindshock Podcast host is a lot like me and thinks logically and critically in the same way I do, without taking any "authoritative source" on faith like Christians and Atheists do. His/Her analysis is briliant, he or she applies skepticism and critical thinking to all sides, like I do, not just to the side he or she doesn't like, like 99.99 percent of people do. I'm not sure if the host is male or female, that's why I said "he or she". lol

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