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Winston wrote:
April 8th, 2022, 12:51 pm
This is hilarious!

Incredible new footage from the Japanese Flimiwari 9 satellite has just been released zooming-in to reveal people, buildings, oceans and waterfalls all literally upside-down in Australia, proving it really is "the land down under" and finally shutting up these ridiculous flat-Earthers once and for all.
The correct name is HIMAWARI9, a Japanese weather satellite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himawari_9

https://www.jma.go.jp/jma/jma-eng/satel ... eaflet.pdf
A pamphlet for download, half English, half Japanese about the satellite.


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Heres something interesting to consider. If earth is a globe, that means there is no objective up or down and people in Australia are walking upside down. Lol. Now if that's the case then think about this:

Why do they always show the globe right side up with north pole on top? Why not show the earth sideways or upside down since up and down don't exist in space? Why not turn the earth on its side and call the north and south poles the east and west poles? Lol. Why not? What would it matter since no up or down objectively exist? Lol

Furthermore why don't the people on the ISS walk upside down on the ceiling of the space station like it were normal and no big deal, the way Australians do? Since there is no up or down in space then it should be normal to walk upside down in the space station right? Lol

Im not claiming earth is flat. Just that what we are told about space and the universe dont make sense and dont add up. So reality cannot be what we are told. Thats all im saying.
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Maps used to be drawn with East at the top, then it was changed to North (magnetic North) to make navigation easier as humanity started exploring the earth in sailing ships.

The space station is built on earth where it makes sense to build components and internal infrastructure in the natural orientation.
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April 29th, 2022, 2:18 am
Maps used to be drawn with East at the top, then it was changed to North (magnetic North) to make navigation easier as humanity started exploring the earth in sailing ships.

The space station is built on earth where it makes sense to build components and internal infrastructure in the natural orientation.
Can you show me a map with east at the top? How can there be a top on a flat map? Do you mean a spherical map? Can I see one?

You were not there when the ISS was built. How do you know? Even if you saw it being built, that wouldn't prove anything.

Moreoever let me ask you this: If the ISS is really in space and there is no up or down in space, since people in Australia and stand upside down and feel like they are normal, then how come the crew on the ISS don't walk on the ceiling or walls as if it were normal ground? Why are they always upright with their head pointed UPWARD? See the videos of the ISS and you will see this. If there really was no objective up or down, then they could walk on the ceiling upside down on the walls with no problem, like it was all normal ground.

This is something inescapable and impossible to explain, and proves that the entire field of astronomy is likely a hoax. Not saying that the earth is flat, but the entire field of astronomy is likely a hoax because there are too many facts and evidence that disprove it.
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00:09:05 2 Figures of Earth
00:26:14 3 The Creation of the World
00:48:41 4 Upholders of the World
01:07:46 5 The Primæval Earth
01:11:09 6 The Babylonian Universe
01:25:03 7 The Egyptian Universe
01:31:25 8 The Earth­-Moon Catastrophe
01:39:40 9 The Deluge
01:46:08 10 The Lost Atlantis
01:51:01 11 The Lost Land of the West
01:59:28 12 Trees of the World
02:45:58 13 Mountains of the World
03:02:21 14 The Wheel of Life
03:19:46 15 Earth the Mundane Egg
03:40:06 16 Systems of the Universe
03:58:12 17 The Square Earth of Cosmas Indicopleutes
04:05:16 18 The Peruvian Universe
04:11:06 19 The Aztec Universe
04:18:09 20 Tartar-­Mongol Worlds
04:24:10 21 Maps of the Earth
04:32:32 22 The Earth of Columbus
04:35:52 23 Dante's Universe
04:40:33 24 Earth the Heart of the Cosmos
04:45:32 25 St. Hildegard's Universe
04:59:01 26 The Earths in the Universe
05:02:43 27 Wheels upon Wheels
05:06:59 28 The World Octaves
05:12:46 29 Earth a Hollow Sphere
05:42:12 30 The Tetrahedral Earth


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Winston wrote:
April 29th, 2022, 1:50 am
Heres something interesting to consider. If earth is a globe, that means there is no objective up or down and people in Australia are walking upside down. Lol. Now if that's the case then think about this:

Why do they always show the globe right side up with north pole on top? Why not show the earth sideways or upside down since up and down don't exist in space? Why not turn the earth on its side and call the north and south poles the east and west poles? Lol. Why not? What would it matter since no up or down objectively exist? Lol

Furthermore why don't the people on the ISS walk upside down on the ceiling of the space station like it were normal and no big deal, the way Australians do? Since there is no up or down in space then it should be normal to walk upside down in the space station right? Lol

Im not claiming earth is flat. Just that what we are told about space and the universe dont make sense and dont add up. So reality cannot be what we are told. Thats all im saying.
I have no doubt that the earth is a globe. I've looked into the flat earth theory and all of their talking point and a lot of the time it seems flat earthers just outright ignore or don't understand the science. Gravity and centrifugal force as an example. They don't accept that we don't fly off the planet because we are part of the planets mass.

I think what you asked about a globe being displayed North side up is because cartographers universally agreed to have it that way so that maps can be easily compared. It's easier to read maps if they are all the same orientation. But you made a good point. There is technically no such thing as "up" or "down" on a globe model. We all see the sky as up and the ground as down regardless of which hemisphere you're standing in.

I understand where the flat earth theory stems from and it seems some of their main talking points revolve around a distrust of government and its institutions, mainly NASA. And to be honest I totally get it. Is NASA a fake company which fakes trips to space to scam the tax payers? Wouldn't be surprised at all. But that alone doesn't prove the Earth is flat.

I think the evidence we can see for ourselves is compelling to suggest the earth is a globe rather than a flat model. Things like lunar eclipses are impossible on a flat earth model. Also differences in atmospheric pressure prove there is no such thing as a firmament which keeps all our atmosphere on the planet. If there was a dome over the planet there wouldn't be differences in atmospheric pressure. The only way the Flat Earth model works is if everything is a simulation. I am a proponent of the simulation theory, but even so I believe the earth is round.

Plus with the religious connection flat earthers argue that the government want to lie about the shape of the planet in order to make us think we're insignificant in a vast universe, when I don't see how being in a vast universe makes us any more or less significant.
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 2:59 pm
Gravity and centrifugal force as an example. They don't accept that we don't fly off the planet because we are part of the planets mass.

Things like lunar eclipses are impossible on a flat earth model
I don't know why people keep rehashing points debunked upthread.
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Cornfed wrote:
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Gravity and centrifugal force as an example. They don't accept that we don't fly off the planet because we are part of the planets mass.

Things like lunar eclipses are impossible on a flat earth model
I don't know why people keep rehashing points debunked upthread.
How does a lunar eclipse work? What spherical object's shadow do we see across the moons surface? If it isn't Earth then what is it and can you prove its existence?
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
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How does a lunar eclipse work? What spherical object's shadow do we see across the moons surface? If it isn't Earth then what is it and can you prove its existence?
We know it isn't the earth because plenty of lunar eclipses happen when the sun and moon are both visible on the horizon. There would be a number of possible causes you could propose such as a third dark rotating body.
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Cornfed wrote:
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How does a lunar eclipse work? What spherical object's shadow do we see across the moons surface? If it isn't Earth then what is it and can you prove its existence?
We know it isn't the earth because plenty of lunar eclipses happen when the sun and moon are both visible on the horizon. There would be a number of possible causes you could propose such as a third dark rotating body.
What third rotating body? No such thing has ever been proven to exist, because it doesn't.
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
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What third rotating body? No such thing has ever been proven to exist, because it doesn't.
Lots of things in NASA cosmology haven't been proven to exist.
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Cornfed wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:09 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
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What third rotating body? No such thing has ever been proven to exist, because it doesn't.
Lots of things in NASA cosmology haven't been proven to exist.
Like other planets you mean? Can't anybody see these celestial bodies with a decent enough telescope?
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:15 pm
Cornfed wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:09 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:05 pm
What third rotating body? No such thing has ever been proven to exist, because it doesn't.
Lots of things in NASA cosmology haven't been proven to exist.
Like other planets you mean? Can't anybody see these celestial bodies with a decent enough telescope?
They appear to be self-luminescent disks of some kind. That is the ones said to be in our solar system. The others appear to be purely fictitious. Then there are magical concepts like gravity, dark this and that, bullcrap concepts like relativity etc.
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Cornfed wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:23 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:15 pm
Cornfed wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:09 pm
Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 16th, 2022, 4:05 pm
What third rotating body? No such thing has ever been proven to exist, because it doesn't.
Lots of things in NASA cosmology haven't been proven to exist.
Like other planets you mean? Can't anybody see these celestial bodies with a decent enough telescope?
They appear to be self-luminescent disks of some kind. That is the ones said to be in our solar system. The others appear to be purely fictitious. Then there are magical concepts like gravity, dark this and that, bullcrap concepts like relativity etc.
Why do you think gravity is bollocks? Do you believe in other natural forces like frictional force? You can feel the effects of frictional force if you decide to Jack off with a glove made of sandpaper and prove that the force exists. Same with gravity. Jump off anything and you'll feel the force of gravity.

Earlier you said something about no proof of celestial bodies existing, even though several people have seen them, but you believe in a third dark celestial body which moves between the sun and the moon and it isn't the earth and nobody has ever claimed to have seen such a celestial body or provide any evidence of its existence.
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