Reincarnation and Past Lives - Compelling Cases That Can't Be Explained

[Winston]

Famous Buddhist Sifu in Taiwan explains why we forget our past lives and why it's better that we so we aren't overburdened with bad memories and regrets from the past.

[Winston]

If any of you are interested in past life therapy, here's an institute that offers it, including courses and training.

https://www.pastlifeawakeninginstitute.com/

[Winston]

Free Kindle ebook for @MrMan about why you can be a Christian and believe in reincarnation. You can read this on your PC with Kindle PC which is free to download on Amazon, or on your mobile device using the Kindle app.

https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Believ ... 01BLKWRA8/

May a Christian Believe in Reincarnation?

Discover the real and surprising history of reincarnation and Christianity.

A growing number of people are open to the subject of past lives, and the belief in rebirth--reincarnation, metemphsychosis, or transmigration--is becoming commonplace. But it often thought that belief in reincarnation and Christianity are incompatible.

But is this really true? May a Christian believe in reincarnation? The answer may surprise you.

Reincarnation-also known as the transmigration of souls-is not just some exotic idea of non-Christian mysticism. Nor is it an exclusively Hindu-Buddhist teaching.

From the earliest days...

In orthodox Jewish and early Christian writings, as well as the Holy Scriptures, we find reincarnation as a fully developed belief, although today it is commonly ignored. But from the beginning it has been an integral part of Orthodox Judaism, and therefore as Orthodox Jews, Jesus and his Apostles would have believed in rebirth.

This historical study of reincarnation in both Judaism and Christianity cites many authorities of both traditions, including many Christian saints and Fathers of the Church, as well as both Old and New Testaments.

In our opinion the testimony of orthodox Judaism, ancient Christianity, and the Bible is sufficient to answer the question: May a Christian believe in reincarnation?

New convincing content

Included in this second edition is Annie Besant's article on various scientific, moral, and historical aspects of reincarnation from a Christian perspective.

[MrMan]

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

[Cornfed]

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Thinking you can settle complex metaphysical issue by quoting a single throw-away line meant to illustrate another point would have to be scriptural analysis at its lowest form.

[MrMan]

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Thinking you can settle complex metaphysical issue by quoting a single throw-away line meant to illustrate another point would have to be scriptural analysis at its lowest form.

It is a rather simple isissue.

[Cornfed]

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Thinking you can settle complex metaphysical issue by quoting a single throw-away line meant to illustrate another point would have to be scriptural analysis at its lowest form.

It is a rather simple isissue.

Not really. If life is supposed to be training for things to come, it would make sense that some people weren't quite ready for the post human -experience but showed enough promise for another go round. The whole life-death-judgement thing might be an executive summary so as not to confuse people, in the same way as a lot of things we learned in high school (back when we learned anything) was a summary.

[MrMan]

There is no post human experience. Jesus is a Man and He is resurrected. Resurrected adopted sons of God will be human also.

[Cornfed]

There is no post human experience. Jesus is a Man and He is resurrected.

This sounds like the Aryan Heresy. The book of John makes it quite clear that Jesus was the logos that was with God and was God that was made flesh and walked among us. By repeating what is believed by all to be heresy , you have clearly renounced any claim to be Christian.

Resurrected adopted sons of God will be human also.

This is pure Jewish Apocalypticism adopted early on by the Roman Catholic superstition but since renounced by all. You never really were Christian at all, were you?

[MrMan]

There is no post human experience. Jesus is a Man and He is resurrected.

This sounds like the Aryan Heresy. The book of John makes it quite clear that Jesus was the logos that was with God and was God that was made flesh and walked among us. By repeating what is believed by all to be heresy , you have clearly renounced any claim to be Christian.

Denying the humanity of Jesus was one of the problems with various Gnostic heresies. You need to learn your doctrine. Christ is also Man. Paul says there is one mediator between God and Man, the Man Christ Jesus.

Resurrected adopted sons of God will be human also.

This is pure Jewish Apocalypticism adopted early on by the Roman Catholic superstition but since renounced by all. You never really were Christian at all, were you?
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Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Greek Orthodox who are knowledgeable about the faith should all have no problem with what I posted in my last post. You do not know what you are talking about. Look at John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

See also Romans 8
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

There is also this line from the Nicene Creed, "We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come."

See also I John 3:2 and I Corinthians 15.

[Cornfed]

Denying the humanity of Jesus was one of the problems with various Gnostic heresies.

Their heresy is a mirror image to yours. The idea of bodies being literally physically reanimated somehow is real bone-through-the-nose stuff and far more fantastical than any other explanation of ongoing life you could think of.

[MrMan]

Denying the humanity of Jesus was one of the problems with various Gnostic heresies.

Their heresy is a mirror image to yours. The idea of bodies being literally physically reanimated somehow is real bone-through-the-nose stuff and far more fantastical than any other explanation of ongoing life you could think of.

You should do a bit more studying of the Bible, of course. You can also study historical orthodoxy. The Apostle's Creed says,

"I believe in ...
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen."

The resurrected form is different, a spiritual body, but a body nonetheless. I John says we shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is. Christ was able to eat after His resurrection. Paul calls Christ the firstfruits of the resurrection.


Here is a quote from St. Justin Martyr from this site

“…He has even called the flesh to the resurrection, and promises to it everlasting life. For where he promises to save man, there he gives the promise to the flesh. For what is man but the reasonable animal composed of body and soul? Is the soul by itself man? No; but the soul of man. Would the body be called man? No, but it is called the body of man. If then, neither of these is by itself man, but that which is made up of the two together is called man, and God has called man to life and resurrection, he has not called a part, but the whole, which is the soul and the body. Since would it not be unquestionably absurd, if, while these two are in the same being and according to the same law, the one were saved and the other not?”

https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/20 ... -the-body/

This kind of 'folk Christianity' persists, even in pulpits, where some preachers focus on dying and going to heaven without even teaching on the resurrection of the body.

And from his dialogue with Trypho,
"For I choose to follow not men or men's doctrines, but God and the doctrines [delivered] by Him. For if you have fallen in with some who are called Christians, but who do not admit this [truth], and venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob; who say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven; do not imagine that they are Christians, "

The following is a quote from Irenaeus, who combated those who denied the incarnation of the Logos, the bodily resurrection, and other true doctrines of the Christian faith,

1. Since, again, some who are reckoned among the orthodox go beyond the pre-arranged plan for the exaltation of the just, and are ignorant of the methods by which they are disciplined beforehand for incorruption, they thus entertain heretical opinions. For the heretics, despising the handiwork of God, and not admitting the salvation of their flesh, while they also treat the promise of God contemptuously, and pass beyond God altogether in the sentiments they form, affirm that immediately upon their death they shall pass above the heavens and the Demiurge, and go to the Mother (Achamoth) or to that Father whom they have feigned. Those persons, therefore, who disallow a resurrection affecting the whole man (universam reprobant resurrectionem), and as far as in them lies remove it from the midst [of the Christian scheme], how can they be wondered at, if again they know nothing as to the plan of the resurrection? For they do not choose to understand, that if these things are as they say, the Lord Himself, in whom they profess to believe, did not rise again upon the third day; but immediately upon His expiring on the cross, undoubtedly departed on high, leaving His body to the earth. But the case was, that for three days He dwelt in the place where the dead were, as the prophet says concerning Him: And the Lord remembered His dead saints who slept formerly in the land of sepulture; and He descended to them, to rescue and save them. And the Lord Himself says, As Jonas remained three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:40 Then also the apostle says, But when He ascended, what is it but that He also descended into the lower parts of the earth? Ephesians 4:9 This, too, David says when prophesying of Him, And you have delivered my soul from the nethermost hell; and on His rising again the third day, He said to Mary, who was the first to see and to worship Him, Touch Me not, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to the disciples, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and unto your Father. John 20:17

Here, he echoes these ideas from Paul found in the Bible in I Corinthians 15,
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

The resurrection that awaits us is put in the same category, here, with what happened to our Lord after His crucifixion, since Paul is arguing against those who are teaching the Corinthians that there will be no resurrection of the dead.

Those in the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox, and church of the East type churches that go by 'orthodox' who know their doctrine believe in the resurrection of the dead. So do Protestants.

This is a quote from Calvin's Institutes that you can read here <http://www.romans45.org/calvin/bk3ch25.html>,
Then, that there may be no doubt as to our fellowship with Christ in
a blessed resurrection, and that we may be contented with this
pledge, Paul distinctly affirms that he sits in the heavens, and
will come as a judge on the last day for the express purpose of
changing our vile body, "that it may be fashioned like unto his
glorious body," (Phil. 3: 21.) For he elsewhere says that God did
not raise up his Son from death to give an isolated specimen of his
mighty power, but that the Spirit exerts the same efficacy in regard
to them that believe; and accordingly he says, that the Spirit when
he dwells in us is life, because the end for which he was given is
to quicken our mortal body, (Rom. 8: 10, 11; Col. 3: 4.)

Within Anglicanism, NT Wright is very vocal about the need to teach the resurrection of the dead.

Read Romans 8. The passage talks about the quickening (bringing to life) of the mortal body, and the manifestation of the sons of God. Baptism into Christ enables us to participate in the resurrection in the future. Take a look at Romans 6.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

[josephty2]

Denying the humanity of Jesus was one of the problems with various Gnostic heresies.

Their heresy is a mirror image to yours. The idea of bodies being literally physically reanimated somehow is real bone-through-the-nose stuff and far more fantastical than any other explanation of ongoing life you could think of.

You should do a bit more studying of the Bible, of course. You can also study historical orthodoxy. The Apostle's Creed says,

"I believe in ...
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen."

The resurrected form is different, a spiritual body, but a body nonetheless. I John says we shall be like Him for we shall see Him as He is. Christ was able to eat after His resurrection. Paul calls Christ the firstfruits of the resurrection.


Here is a quote from St. Justin Martyr from this site

“…He has even called the flesh to the resurrection, and promises to it everlasting life. For where he promises to save man, there he gives the promise to the flesh. For what is man but the reasonable animal composed of body and soul? Is the soul by itself man? No; but the soul of man. Would the body be called man? No, but it is called the body of man. If then, neither of these is by itself man, but that which is made up of the two together is called man, and God has called man to life and resurrection, he has not called a part, but the whole, which is the soul and the body. Since would it not be unquestionably absurd, if, while these two are in the same being and according to the same law, the one were saved and the other not?”

https://reformedreader.wordpress.com/20 ... -the-body/

This kind of 'folk Christianity' persists, even in pulpits, where some preachers focus on dying and going to heaven without even teaching on the resurrection of the body.

And from his dialogue with Trypho,
"For I choose to follow not men or men's doctrines, but God and the doctrines [delivered] by Him. For if you have fallen in with some who are called Christians, but who do not admit this [truth], and venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob; who say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven; do not imagine that they are Christians, "

The following is a quote from Irenaeus, who combated those who denied the incarnation of the Logos, the bodily resurrection, and other true doctrines of the Christian faith,

1. Since, again, some who are reckoned among the orthodox go beyond the pre-arranged plan for the exaltation of the just, and are ignorant of the methods by which they are disciplined beforehand for incorruption, they thus entertain heretical opinions. For the heretics, despising the handiwork of God, and not admitting the salvation of their flesh, while they also treat the promise of God contemptuously, and pass beyond God altogether in the sentiments they form, affirm that immediately upon their death they shall pass above the heavens and the Demiurge, and go to the Mother (Achamoth) or to that Father whom they have feigned. Those persons, therefore, who disallow a resurrection affecting the whole man (universam reprobant resurrectionem), and as far as in them lies remove it from the midst [of the Christian scheme], how can they be wondered at, if again they know nothing as to the plan of the resurrection? For they do not choose to understand, that if these things are as they say, the Lord Himself, in whom they profess to believe, did not rise again upon the third day; but immediately upon His expiring on the cross, undoubtedly departed on high, leaving His body to the earth. But the case was, that for three days He dwelt in the place where the dead were, as the prophet says concerning Him: And the Lord remembered His dead saints who slept formerly in the land of sepulture; and He descended to them, to rescue and save them. And the Lord Himself says, As Jonas remained three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth. Matthew 12:40 Then also the apostle says, But when He ascended, what is it but that He also descended into the lower parts of the earth? Ephesians 4:9 This, too, David says when prophesying of Him, And you have delivered my soul from the nethermost hell; and on His rising again the third day, He said to Mary, who was the first to see and to worship Him, Touch Me not, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to the disciples, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and unto your Father. John 20:17

Here, he echoes these ideas from Paul found in the Bible in I Corinthians 15,
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

The resurrection that awaits us is put in the same category, here, with what happened to our Lord after His crucifixion, since Paul is arguing against those who are teaching the Corinthians that there will be no resurrection of the dead.

Those in the Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox, and church of the East type churches that go by 'orthodox' who know their doctrine believe in the resurrection of the dead. So do Protestants.

This is a quote from Calvin's Institutes that you can read here <http://www.romans45.org/calvin/bk3ch25.html>,
Then, that there may be no doubt as to our fellowship with Christ in
a blessed resurrection, and that we may be contented with this
pledge, Paul distinctly affirms that he sits in the heavens, and
will come as a judge on the last day for the express purpose of
changing our vile body, "that it may be fashioned like unto his
glorious body," (Phil. 3: 21.) For he elsewhere says that God did
not raise up his Son from death to give an isolated specimen of his
mighty power, but that the Spirit exerts the same efficacy in regard
to them that believe; and accordingly he says, that the Spirit when
he dwells in us is life, because the end for which he was given is
to quicken our mortal body, (Rom. 8: 10, 11; Col. 3: 4.)

Within Anglicanism, NT Wright is very vocal about the need to teach the resurrection of the dead.

Read Romans 8. The passage talks about the quickening (bringing to life) of the mortal body, and the manifestation of the sons of God. Baptism into Christ enables us to participate in the resurrection in the future. Take a look at Romans 6.

5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

These quotes you mentioned, basically some people in the world are judged by God to be good, but people around them aren't and God saves them. Ever watched those movies where the hero narrowly wins by a 1/100000 chance of winning? Simple really. That is most of the Old Testament I think.

[Winston]

If any of you are on the fence about reincarnation, this case of Dorothy Eady, a reincarnated Egyptian priestess who was revered in Egyptology and made many contributions and archaeological discoveries that she couldn't have known, will convince you for sure! It's very compelling and famous and well documented. See these summaries about her below. They will blow your mind.

[Winston]

Hebrews 9
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Sorry but a line of text from a book written anonymously doesn't mean or prove anything. It's not even a logical argument. It's an appeal to imaginary authority. Especially since it's from a book that's written by MEN and known to be highly CORRUPTED too, which every aware freethinker knows.

Furthermore, the "judgement" could be a life review before one gets sent back to Earth to be recycled. Remember everything in the world is recycled, even a blade of grass. So why can't the human soul, which is more important than a blade of grass, be recycled?