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Winston wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 5:02 am
Interesting quote I saw on YouTube about the Atheist version of Pascal's Wager:

The Atheist's Wager is probably the best counter-point to Pascal's Wager. There's a quote misattributed to Marcus Aurelius that sums it up fairly neatly;

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
But what God considers to be good and what people consider to be good are vastly different things. This is a major lesson that many people will not be able to recognized until fate hits them.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
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Neo wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 3:10 pm
But what God considers to be good and what people consider to be good are vastly different things. This is a major lesson that many people will not be able to recognized until fate hits them.
You should be ashamed for saying this nonsense.

So since people don't have the ability to know "good" in God's eyes, how could anyone be justifiably held accountable for anything? I love how "Christians" just make things up as they go along to appear somehow wise or virtuous.

Here, have a bit of Stephan Fry making minced meat of your "Christian" fantasy.

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Winston, shouldn't you know some of these answers as a former Christian?
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June 26th, 2020, 2:31 pm
Interesting questions from Quora about God and Satan.

If God sends nonbelievers and people who believe in other Gods to hell, shouldn't God make sure there is enough evidence and only one religion/book?
https://www.quora.com/If-God-sends-nonb ... igion-book
It's simply a choice every person makes for himself or herself, whether to believe in Jesus as the Son of God or to go on believing in delusions. The choice is theirs.
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If God is "All Powerful" then why can't he just kill Satan?
https://www.quora.com/If-God-is-All-Pow ... kill-Satan
He doesn't kill souls. People can die because they are mortal. Angels and adversaries do not have physical bodies that can die or be killed.
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Is Satan the Alternate Personality of God?
https://www.quora.com/Is-Satan-the-Alte ... ity-of-God
No, the adversary is a created being, who was created good, just like everyone and everything else, but by his own free will,... and you know the rest.
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God rules Heaven, Satan rules Hell. If people are sent to Hell because they abandoned or were abandoned by God, why are they punished there? Shouldn't Satan be congratulating them or something?
https://www.quora.com/God-rules-Heaven- ... -something
The adversary rules on earth. He is the little g god of this world. He does not rule in Hades, and neither will he. He will not be ruling and reigning there.

Hell is exclusively a place of punishment and torment. There will be no kingdoms of evildoers rejoicing or celebrating. Evildoers will be in eternal destruction. Fire, liquid sulfur, starvation, darkness, burning, lack of companionship, thirst, hunger, suffocation, and endless suffering, because of their evil deeds that they abounded in in their lives.

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September 3rd, 2020, 3:10 pm
But what God considers to be good and what people consider to be good are vastly different things. This is a major lesson that many people will not be able to recognized until fate hits them.
You should be ashamed for saying this nonsense.

So since people don't have the ability to know "good" in God's eyes, how could anyone be justifiably held accountable for anything? I love how "Christians" just make things up as they go along to appear somehow wise or virtuous.


Evildoers follow their own commandments and their own desires. They do not follow the commandments of God. What a person considers righteous, just, holy, and virtuous, is usually very different from what God says those things are.

Also, truly evil people usually do not care one bit for God's commandments, and they hate God passionately (even though they claim He doesn't truly exist).

That's the whole reason why evildoers are evil. They have evil desires and following God would interfere with that.

In other words, evildoers are going to be destroyed because they love evil more than they love the good. If they loved the good they'd go to God and do good, but because they love the evil, they hate God and refuse Him. It really is that simple. And they will not repent in time before they're rejected by Him. Then they will be punished forever, because they loved evil so much that they refused the love of the truth.
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September 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm
Evildoers follow their own commandments and their own desires. They do not follow the commandments of God. What a person considers righteous, just, holy, and virtuous, is usually very different from what God says those things are.

Also, truly evil people usually do not care one bit for God's commandments, and they hate God passionately (even though they claim He doesn't truly exist).

That's the whole reason why evildoers are evil. They have evil desires and following God would interfere with that.

In other words, evildoers are going to be destroyed because they love evil more than they love the good. If they loved the good they'd go to God and do good, but because they love the evil, they hate God and refuse Him. It really is that simple. And they will not repent in time before they're rejected by Him. Then they will be punished forever, because they loved evil so much that they refused the love of the truth.
Maybe you are the true "evildoer" because you dare speak with the authority of God in a manner meant to scare and manipulate people. That includes telling people that what they think is good is not actually good in the eyes of God. For only YOU personally can tell them what is good right? Like maybe donating money to you, or joining your church to meet your recruiting goals?

In addition, instead of following the commandments that you trumpet whenever it is convenient, you invent your own commandments when it suits your agenda of trying to appear holy, righteous, and pious.

I see right thru people like you and it represents true evil that you'll one day pay for with spiritual accountability.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 4:22 pm
Neo wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm
Evildoers follow their own commandments and their own desires. They do not follow the commandments of God. What a person considers righteous, just, holy, and virtuous, is usually very different from what God says those things are.

Also, truly evil people usually do not care one bit for God's commandments, and they hate God passionately (even though they claim He doesn't truly exist).

That's the whole reason why evildoers are evil. They have evil desires and following God would interfere with that.

In other words, evildoers are going to be destroyed because they love evil more than they love the good. If they loved the good they'd go to God and do good, but because they love the evil, they hate God and refuse Him. It really is that simple. And they will not repent in time before they're rejected by Him. Then they will be punished forever, because they loved evil so much that they refused the love of the truth.
Maybe you are the true "evildoer" because you dare speak with the authority of God in a manner meant to scare and manipulate people. That includes telling people that what they think is good is not actually good in the eyes of God. For only YOU personally can tell them what is good right? Like maybe donating money to you, or joining your church to meet your recruiting goals?

In addition, instead of following the commandments that you trumpet whenever it is convenient, you invent your own commandments when it suits your agenda of trying to appear holy, righteous, and pious.

I see right thru people like you and it represents true evil that you'll one day pay for with spiritual accountability.
You can say what you wish. It truly doesn't bother me one bit. You have no idea what you're even doing to yourself.

Anyhow, I don't recruit for churches. I have never asked a convert from money.

And I don't tell men what to do. Have I ever told you what you should be doing? I don't even bother with that.

As for the commandments, they are in the Bible. All one as to do is open it up and read. It may take some time for it to begin to sink in (no insult). The Bible takes study.

As for you, personally, I don't care what you say, do or think. It's really none of my business, and I don't seek to make it my business. Go your own way, and I'll go mine. I'm just talking, like everyone else does here. But you can say what you want about it. It won't bother me in the slightest.
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Neo wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 3:10 pm
Winston wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 5:02 am
Interesting quote I saw on YouTube about the Atheist version of Pascal's Wager:

The Atheist's Wager is probably the best counter-point to Pascal's Wager. There's a quote misattributed to Marcus Aurelius that sums it up fairly neatly;

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
But what God considers to be good and what people consider to be good are vastly different things. This is a major lesson that many people will not be able to recognized until fate hits them.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
Not exactly. Paul in Romans said that God put in our hearts a basic conscience so deep down we all know right from wrong and so we have no excuse. Its only modern liberal socialists and jewish marxist academics that claim morality is relative and that there is no right or wrong. One can also just follow the ten commandments and get the gist of what God's moral code is.

Alex agrees. He said.

[9/3, 10:14 PM] Alex From Venice: I subscribed that belief
[9/3, 10:14 PM] Alex From Venice: I believe there's a common sense of good and just in each human being
[9/3, 10:15 PM] Alex From Venice: That's also what turned CS Lewis into a believer
[9/3, 10:15 PM] Alex From Venice: because morality can't be explain with natural evolution
[9/3, 10:15 PM] Alex From Venice: it's transcendent
[9/3, 10:16 PM] Alex From Venice: and there's no evidence for moral behaviour in nature aside from that of men

That's true. Mankind's natural morality and conscience is what distinguishes us from the animals. So it must be something transcendent and divine. Not from nature.
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Winston wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 5:14 pm
Neo wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 3:10 pm
Winston wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 5:02 am
Interesting quote I saw on YouTube about the Atheist version of Pascal's Wager:

The Atheist's Wager is probably the best counter-point to Pascal's Wager. There's a quote misattributed to Marcus Aurelius that sums it up fairly neatly;

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."
But what God considers to be good and what people consider to be good are vastly different things. This is a major lesson that many people will not be able to recognized until fate hits them.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.
Not exactly. Paul in Romans said that God put in our hearts a basic conscience so deep down we all know right from wrong and so we have no excuse. Its only modern liberal socialists and jewish marxist academics that claim morality is relative and that there is no right or wrong. One can also just follow the ten commandments and get the gist of what God's moral code is.
I don't think the no excuse part was about the law, but rather about having faith in Christ. There's no excuse not to have faith in Christ, except people love their ungodly lusts more. In other words, for the people who don't get saved or refuse to believe in Christ, they have no excuse.

As for the law written in their hearts, it applies to the people who keep the law. The people who don't keep the law of God follow their own or whatever tickles their ears.

Remember that Jesus said that the way to life is narrow and only a few will find it. There is no way that most people are automatically keeping the law.
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Neo wrote:
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You have no idea what you're even doing to yourself.
You are the one who needs to be concerned with the spiritual damage you’re doing to yourself.

I personally live in terms of truth, not manipulative lies that seek to frighten people into believing what I believe. This is your wicked tactic. THAT is true evil and you’ll be called into divine account for it when it is all said and done.
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In the beginning, humankind was perfect. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden. As long as neither Adam and Eve nor their offspring ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the human race would be perfect, life would be easy, childbirth would have little to no pain, and any injury and/or illness would have a simple antidote; the fruit of the Tree of Life. And speaking of eating of the Tree of Life, any person who ate of the Tree of Life and who especially continued to periodically eat of the Tree of Life would live indefinitely. Imagine literally, the kind of party you could have on your 250,000th or even 1,000,000th birthday! People would very likely know not to build cities on or close to known active fault lines. If you ever got cancer, whether it be prostate cancer, malignant melanoma, or pancreatic cancer, the fruit of the Tree of Life would likely cure it in minutes. Old age = Cured if you eat of the Tree of Life, wrinkles smoothed out and all. And your life extended by many decades, possibly centuries. Anyone who died would go straight to Heaven. And who knows if people might even be possibly permitted to swing between Heaven and Earth. You know, spend a few thousand years on Earth, spend one or two million years in Heaven, and visit the Earth for about half a million years or so. Also, Hell would be really empty, too, populated only by Satan and his demons.

Sadly, Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation and ate of the exact tree that God told them not to eat from, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And how easy it was for Eve to have said to that serpent; "Actually, the fruit of that tree over there looks just as ripe and delicious as the fruit of this tree, so I think I will go try the fruit of that tree over there." And equally easy for her to have gone and eaten possibly of the Tree of Life even. But no. They just had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and destroy it all for us.

God allows evil, suffering, and injustice to exist on the Earth because it's part of man's penalty for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And now the world is practically about on the verge of a global dictatorship and a war so violent and out of control that only Jesus will be capable of halting it before it causes the complete, total extinction of the entire human race.
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God on Trial TV episode of Insight. A mock court room trial of God to see if he's at fault for people's tragedies.



Evangelist tries God to see if he is unjust for not preventing suffering and evil in this world.

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Interesting ebooks on the subject of why God allows evil and suffering. Download links and description below.

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If God Is Good: Faith in the Midst of Suffering and Evil - Randy Alcorn epub

Every one of us will experience suffering. You may be in such a time now. We see the presence of evil in the headlines every day.

It all raises questions about God—Why would an all-good and all-powerful God create a world full of evil and suffering? How can there be a God if suffering and evil exist?

Atheists such as Richard Dawkins and even former believers like Bart Ehrman answer the question simply: The existence of suffering and evil proves there is no God.

But in this illuminating book, best-selling author Randy Alcorn challenges the logic of disbelief, and brings a fresh, hopeful, and thoroughly biblical insight to the issues these important questions raise.

Alcorn offers insights from his conversations with men and women whose lives have been torn apart by suffering, and yet whose faith in God burns brighter than ever. He reveals the big picture of who God is and what God is doing in the world—now and forever. And he shows the beauty of God’s sovereignty—how it ultimately triumphs over suffering and evil in our lives and the world around us.

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God and Evil: The Case for God in a World Filled with Pain - (eds.) Chad Meister, James K. Dew Jr.

The question of evil―its origins, its justification, its solution―has plagued humankind from the beginning. Every generation raises the question and struggles with the responses it is given. Questions about the nature of evil and how it is reconciled with the truth claims of Christianity are unavoidable; we need to be prepared to respond to such questions with great clarity and good faith. God and Evil compiles the best thinking on all angles on the question of evil, from some of the finest scholars in religion, philosophy and apologetics, including

Gregory E. Ganssle and Yena Lee
Bruce Little
Garry DeWeese
R. Douglas Geivett
James Spiegel
Jill Graper Hernandez
Win Corduan
David Beck

With additional chapters addressing "issues in dialogue" such as hell and human origins, and a now-famous debate between evangelical philosopher William Lane Craig and atheist philosopher Michael Tooley, God and Evil provides critical engagement with recent arguments against faith and offers grounds for renewed confidence in the God who is "acquainted with grief."

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Why Does God Allow Evil?: Compelling Answers for Life’s Toughest Questions - Clay Jones epub/mobi

"If you are looking for one book to make sense of the problem of evil, this book is for you."
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Grasping This Truth Will
Change Your View of God Forever

If God is good and all-powerful, why doesn't He put a stop to the evil in this world? Christians and non-Christians alike struggle with the concept of a loving God who allows widespread suffering in this life and never-ending punishment in hell. We wrestle with questions such as...

Why do bad things happen to good people?
How can eternal judgment be fair?

But what if the real problem doesn't start with God...but with us?

Clay Jones, a professor at Biola University, examines what Scripture truly says about the nature of evil and why God allows it.

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=8890414

Although vast and complex, the universe is orderly in many ways, and conditions at its beginning were right for the eventual evolution of life on this planet. But with life there is death, and with sentient life there is great pain and suffering, often with no apparent justification or purpose. Taking these things together, is it reasonable to conclude that the universe was brought about by God? Moreover, does the magnitude of seemingly pointless suffering square with the idea that God exists, or is it good reason to think there is no God? These questions come up for many people, not just religious believers, and are examined in this engaging and thought-provoking book.

Starting out with no pre-disposition to theism, atheism, or agnosticism, God, Evil, and Design takes up these questions in order to see where an impartial investigation leads. To achieve impartiality, the reader is invited to simulate ignorance insofar as his or her own religious preference is concerned. With this approach, God, Evil, and Design provides both a fresh look at important and controversial issues in philosophy and an excellent introduction to the contemporary debates surrounding them. Lively and non-technical, this book will be accessible to anyone with an interest in these topics.

Review
“O’Connor’s book ranks with the very best of the many introductions to the philosophy of religion that have been published over the past several decades. His selection and discussion of two main topics, the problem of evil, and the apparent design of the universe, convey especially well the importance of the question of God’s existence.” Quentin Smith, Western Michigan University

“This is a very clear and unusually objective examination of the problem of evil and its interface with the design argument. For those tired of theistic or atheistic apologetics masquerading as philosophy of religion, this book is highly recommended.” Paul Draper, Purdue University

“David O'Connor's God, Evil, and Design is a remarkably accessible opinionated introduction to the issues. His critique of skepticism about arguments from evil will be of interest to professionals as well. Highly recommended.” Daniel Howard-Snyder, Western Washington University

"It is aimed at the beginner, but is also of interest to more advanced readers." Times Higher Education Supplement

From the Back Cover
Although vast and complex, the universe is orderly in many ways, and conditions at its beginning were right for the eventual evolution of life on this planet. But with life there is death, and with sentient life there is great pain and suffering, often with no apparent justification or purpose. Taking these things together, is it reasonable to conclude that the universe was brought about by God? Moreover, does the magnitude of seemingly pointless suffering square with the idea that God exists, or is it good reason to think there is no God? These questions come up for many people, not just religious believers, and are examined in this engaging and thought-provoking book.
Starting out with no pre-disposition to theism, atheism, or agnosticism, God, Evil, and Design takes up these questions in order to see where an impartial investigation leads. To achieve impartiality, the reader is invited to simulate ignorance insofar as his or her own religious preference is concerned. With this approach, God, Evil, and Design provides both a fresh look at important and controversial issues in philosophy and an excellent introduction to the contemporary debates surrounding them. Lively and non-technical, this book will be accessible to anyone with an interest in these topics.

About the Author
David O'Connor is Professor of Philosophy at Seton Hall University, and the author of three books, including Hume on Religion (2001), God and Inscrutable Evil (1998) and The Metaphysics of G.E. Moore (1982).
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Atheistic Scientists challenge God to show up in court or face charges of non-existence. (This video was shot in 1997 & 2000 on Standard Definition equipment.)



A real life courtroom drama based on a debate of the existence of God. This year the PS Alumni have made a production that attracted thousands of viewers to take part and dive deep into the jury for this jaw dropping drama.

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Mercury wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 6:31 pm

Sadly, Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation and ate of the exact tree that God told them not to eat from, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And how easy it was for Eve to have said to that serpent; "Actually, the fruit of that tree over there looks just as ripe and delicious as the fruit of this tree, so I think I will go try the fruit of that tree over there." And equally easy for her to have gone and eaten possibly of the Tree of Life even. But no. They just had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and destroy it all for us.

God allows evil, suffering, and injustice to exist on the Earth because it's part of man's penalty for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And now the world is practically about on the verge of a global dictatorship and a war so violent and out of control that only Jesus will be capable of halting it before it causes the complete, total extinction of the entire human race.
Now each person gets to prove who he or she is to God by his or her own works, whether the person is good or evil, and their eternal reward will be according to that.
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Interesting ebooks on the subject of why God allows evil and suffering. Download links and description below.
Jesus Christ, who is God, suffered Himself while He was on this earth, and He also says that all godly people will suffer some form of persecution in this life.

Also, what some people can't seem to remember, is that God has the ability to pay people back for their suffering in this life in eternity.

Evil doers persecute the righteous, the righteous suffer and then later are rewarded. The evil doers will also later be punished.

There are lots of powerful people who steal food and resources from the poor. This type will be held accountable. And there are powerful people who do much worse things that I don't think I need to write about. Much suffering comes from people in power who are oppressing those underneath them. Yet they point the fingers elsewhere.
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Neo wrote:
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Mercury wrote:
September 3rd, 2020, 6:31 pm

Sadly, Adam and Eve succumbed to temptation and ate of the exact tree that God told them not to eat from, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And how easy it was for Eve to have said to that serpent; "Actually, the fruit of that tree over there looks just as ripe and delicious as the fruit of this tree, so I think I will go try the fruit of that tree over there." And equally easy for her to have gone and eaten possibly of the Tree of Life even. But no. They just had to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and destroy it all for us.

God allows evil, suffering, and injustice to exist on the Earth because it's part of man's penalty for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And now the world is practically about on the verge of a global dictatorship and a war so violent and out of control that only Jesus will be capable of halting it before it causes the complete, total extinction of the entire human race.
Now each person gets to prove who he or she is to God by his or her own works, whether the person is good or evil, and their eternal reward will be according to that.
In the Garden of Eden, there was but one commandment to obey. No eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. No thanks to Adam and Eve, we have close to 1,700 commandments and rules that have to be perfectly followed, and the only people who will make it into Heaven either at their death or at the Rapture are those who have not sinned since the last time all of their sins were forgiven. And with close to 1,700 rules and commandments, you don't even know if you sinned or not! Almost nobody can memorize all 1,667 individual rules, even the 613 commands that were in the Mosaic law.
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