Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
One thing I fail to understand about some people who do not wish to have a relationship with the God of the Bible: If they hate to hear about Him, if they do not like Him, if they think that belief in Him is absurd, then why do they insist on starting discussions about Him, His religion and His people?
Surely they already think they know all about what motivates Christians or they have already formed an opinion about it.
So what's the point?
Surely they already think they know all about what motivates Christians or they have already formed an opinion about it.
So what's the point?
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Typical evasive response from a "Christian" who cannot answer the question of what kind of god would allow a woman to have her baby die overnight. This is just what they do!Neo wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 4:14 pmOne thing I fail to understand about some people who do not wish to have a relationship with the God of the Bible: If they hate to hear about Him, if they do not like Him, if they think that belief in Him is absurd, then why do they insist on starting discussions about Him, His religion and His people?
Surely they already think they know all about what motivates Christians or they have already formed an opinion about it.
So what's the point?
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Btw, 'God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform' is Shakespeare, not from the Bible.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 7:15 amFor all you Christian nutjobs and lunatics that love to proselytize and annoy people here, what is your Christian explanation for this? And please spare us the mumbo jumbo about god working in mysterious ways. Your biblical rhetoric is nonsensical when things like this happen.
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
But what do u expect? Can u explain calculus to an insect? Of course not. How can you? Things at a higher dimension also cannot be explained in words. Words are designed for the physical plane only. They dont work in higher dimensions. If you were spiritual you would understand that.Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 1:18 pmCOMPLETELY predictable response from a weak Christian mind. Christianity will excuse every evil in the world so long as they can attribute it to the cruel and mysterious "gods will."
These people should be truly ashamed!
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Of course in that situation i would be shocked and angry and blame God too. We've all gone through those stages. Its natural. But that doesnt mean that i would suddenly believe that we were created by random accident in a pool of mud struck by lighting, or that randomness can create information and specified complexity like a machine, or that life can come from non-life. You would still lose that argument not matter how angry you are at God. Ive explains this many times. Why dont you get it?Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 1:18 pmAnd would you say such stupidly dismissive and heartless things if you picked up your child only to find that he is stiff because he had died in his sleep?
COMPLETELY predictable response from a weak Christian mind. Christianity will excuse every evil in the world so long as they can attribute it to the cruel and mysterious "gods will."
These people should be truly ashamed!
Also how do u know that mother didn't have bad health or bad genes or smoked or drank alcohol while she was pregnant? You dont do you? God cant correct every wrong in the world. Can u correct every wrong in your body or prevent every cell in your body from dying and being replaced?
Maybe the mother wasnt meant to be a mother? Maybe her baby and her had bad karma from a past life? You gotta consider those too. Your mind is too black and white.
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Alex's reply:
"I'd let Nick Vujicic to reply to him.
If He can't get why Nick is a believer, then he'll never get no matter what.
Anyway CE has a lot of reasons to despise mainstream Christian doctrines... it's based on a pile of false myths, it's illogical, it's filled up with immorality issues"
https://youtu.be/rIlh-nctRK0
"I'd let Nick Vujicic to reply to him.
If He can't get why Nick is a believer, then he'll never get no matter what.
Anyway CE has a lot of reasons to despise mainstream Christian doctrines... it's based on a pile of false myths, it's illogical, it's filled up with immorality issues"
https://youtu.be/rIlh-nctRK0
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Certainly the death of any loved one would hurt deeply, and there would be many tears. However, as I wrote above, death is a part of life. It's just a matter of when and how. Fortunately for babies, they haven't had a chance to commit sin or do wrong, so they should go straight to heaven. They also get to avoid the trials and tribulations of life and go straight to glory. There is pain and suffering in this life. In heaven there are neither. And there is a world to come, where there will be no sin, no death, no pain, no hunger, no evil doers, and abundance of good things.Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
I've had loved ones die before and I felt no anger. So I don't think I would feel any.
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
No, they would be completely fine with it because they would think it was god's will being done because, of course, "God works in mysterious ways."Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Also contrarian expatriate,
Sure its easy to blame God for all the tragedies in life, but you always forget to thank God and show gratitude for the miracle of life and all the beauty in life too. When u look around u at the beautiful landscapes and mountains and forests and beaches in America, dont u marvel and feel God in your heart? If you're gonna blame God for the bad stuff you gotta thank him for the good stuff too. But you never do that do you? If you showed more gratitude then you'd have more blessings and be happier. You should be fair and acknowledge both. Not just one.
Sure its easy to blame God for all the tragedies in life, but you always forget to thank God and show gratitude for the miracle of life and all the beauty in life too. When u look around u at the beautiful landscapes and mountains and forests and beaches in America, dont u marvel and feel God in your heart? If you're gonna blame God for the bad stuff you gotta thank him for the good stuff too. But you never do that do you? If you showed more gratitude then you'd have more blessings and be happier. You should be fair and acknowledge both. Not just one.
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
[12/12, 3:12 PM] Alex From Venice: if there's true faith, death is explained and can be accepted, those who don't have true faith can't accept death
[12/12, 3:14 PM] Winston Wu: But isnt such death unfair and unjust? Why does God allow it?
[12/12, 3:14 PM] Alex From Venice: I think it's OK to be angry to God as first reaction... it's human nature
[12/12, 3:15 PM] Alex From Venice: because it's not the earthly life that matters
[12/12, 3:16 PM] Winston Wu: But why doesnt God prevent it?
[12/12, 3:17 PM] Alex From Venice: aren't we here on earth to know the good and evil?
[12/12, 3:17 PM] Alex From Venice: that's what Eve chose when she eat the fruit from the tree or Good and Evil
[12/12, 3:18 PM] Alex From Venice: so here we are, facing good and evil and having to chose between good and evil
[12/12, 3:18 PM] Alex From Venice: if there's no evil how can we know what we would choose?
[12/12, 3:20 PM] Alex From Venice: anyway death isn't good nor it's evil
[12/12, 3:20 PM] Alex From Venice: but joy is good, suffer is evil
[12/12, 3:22 PM] Alex From Venice: yet Jesus had to bear one of the most cruel and horrible suffer in his life
[12/12, 3:22 PM] Alex From Venice: so, that means that suffer has a purpose
[12/12, 3:23 PM] Alex From Venice: otherwise Jesus would have escaped it
[12/12, 3:24 PM] Alex From Venice: he certainly could have died and resurrected without having to bear the suffer of crucifixion
[12/12, 3:24 PM] Alex From Venice: so the real sacrifice Jesus did for us, wasn't his death, but his suffer
[12/12, 3:25 PM] Alex From Venice: we know from the book of Job and from our inner moral law that Jesus suffer couldn't be a punishment
[12/12, 3:27 PM] Alex From Venice: he doesn't blame God... he state that God doesn't exist
[12/12, 3:28 PM] Winston Wu: He wont say if he's a theist or atheist.
[12/12, 3:29 PM] Alex From Venice: he throw suffer at the face of believers because he want to cause them fall in contradiction as they likely do, so to show them how stupid they are in their reasoning, and he'll enjoy see them displaying their stupidity
[12/12, 3:14 PM] Winston Wu: But isnt such death unfair and unjust? Why does God allow it?
[12/12, 3:14 PM] Alex From Venice: I think it's OK to be angry to God as first reaction... it's human nature
[12/12, 3:15 PM] Alex From Venice: because it's not the earthly life that matters
[12/12, 3:16 PM] Winston Wu: But why doesnt God prevent it?
[12/12, 3:17 PM] Alex From Venice: aren't we here on earth to know the good and evil?
[12/12, 3:17 PM] Alex From Venice: that's what Eve chose when she eat the fruit from the tree or Good and Evil
[12/12, 3:18 PM] Alex From Venice: so here we are, facing good and evil and having to chose between good and evil
[12/12, 3:18 PM] Alex From Venice: if there's no evil how can we know what we would choose?
[12/12, 3:20 PM] Alex From Venice: anyway death isn't good nor it's evil
[12/12, 3:20 PM] Alex From Venice: but joy is good, suffer is evil
[12/12, 3:22 PM] Alex From Venice: yet Jesus had to bear one of the most cruel and horrible suffer in his life
[12/12, 3:22 PM] Alex From Venice: so, that means that suffer has a purpose
[12/12, 3:23 PM] Alex From Venice: otherwise Jesus would have escaped it
[12/12, 3:24 PM] Alex From Venice: he certainly could have died and resurrected without having to bear the suffer of crucifixion
[12/12, 3:24 PM] Alex From Venice: so the real sacrifice Jesus did for us, wasn't his death, but his suffer
[12/12, 3:25 PM] Alex From Venice: we know from the book of Job and from our inner moral law that Jesus suffer couldn't be a punishment
[12/12, 3:27 PM] Alex From Venice: he doesn't blame God... he state that God doesn't exist
[12/12, 3:28 PM] Winston Wu: He wont say if he's a theist or atheist.
[12/12, 3:29 PM] Alex From Venice: he throw suffer at the face of believers because he want to cause them fall in contradiction as they likely do, so to show them how stupid they are in their reasoning, and he'll enjoy see them displaying their stupidity
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
I would like to think not. I've faced hardship before along those lines.Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
This is also a very emotion-based way of looking at things. We all have emotions, but facing hardship, from a logical perspective, isn't any kind of argument against the existence of God.
It is not like the Bible teaches there will be no hardship or suffering in life for those who follow God.
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Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Can you read MrMoron? The thread questions what kind of god would ALLOW this, not if there exists a god.MrMan wrote: ↑December 12th, 2020, 7:24 pmI would like to think not. I've faced hardship before along those lines.Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
This is also a very emotion-based way of looking at things. We all have emotions, but facing hardship, from a logical perspective, isn't any kind of argument against the existence of God.
It is not like the Bible teaches there will be no hardship or suffering in life for those who follow God.
Thanks for proving that you Christians cannot muster an answer to the question. Brainwashed people dance around these questions and prove themselves to be fools.
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
He asked if it would damage my faith, so my response was irrelevant. You sure like to stir up trouble. Can't you join in a civil conversation? What is wrong with you?Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑December 12th, 2020, 7:37 pmCan you read MrMoron? The thread questions what kind of god would ALLOW this, not if there exists a god.MrMan wrote: ↑December 12th, 2020, 7:24 pmI would like to think not. I've faced hardship before along those lines.Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
This is also a very emotion-based way of looking at things. We all have emotions, but facing hardship, from a logical perspective, isn't any kind of argument against the existence of God.
It is not like the Bible teaches there will be no hardship or suffering in life for those who follow God.
Thanks for proving that you Christians cannot muster an answer to the question. Brainwashed people dance around these questions and prove themselves to be fools.
Re: Christian Members: What Kind Of “God” Would Allow This?
Well then logically the answer is:Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑December 12th, 2020, 7:37 pmCan you read MrMoron? The thread questions what kind of god would ALLOW this, not if there exists a god.MrMan wrote: ↑December 12th, 2020, 7:24 pmI would like to think not. I've faced hardship before along those lines.Winston wrote: ↑December 11th, 2020, 10:57 pm@Neo and @MrMan,
Just wondering, if your baby suddenly died, would it damage your faith? How would u deal with it or make sense out of it? Would u be angry at God for a while and blame him? How have u dealt with such tragedies and misfortunes in the past?
This is also a very emotion-based way of looking at things. We all have emotions, but facing hardship, from a logical perspective, isn't any kind of argument against the existence of God.
It is not like the Bible teaches there will be no hardship or suffering in life for those who follow God.
Thanks for proving that you Christians cannot muster an answer to the question. Brainwashed people dance around these questions and prove themselves to be fools.
1. A God who doesn't care.
2. A God you can't understand.
3. A God who can't do anything about it.
4. A God who is not aware that such things happen.
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