There is nothing necessarily wrong with slavery as compared to many other arrangements. Yahweh does not advocate human sacrifice. The fact that bad things have to happen to people has been gone into a million times. When saying things are objectively evil, you are presumably comparing the real world to how some hippy dippy woke religion you subscribe to says things should be.
Some evils of Jehova
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Re: Some evils of Jehova
Yes there is.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:11 pmThere is nothing necessarily wrong with slavery as compared to many other arrangements. Yahweh does not advocate human sacrifice. The fact that bad things have to happen to people has been gone into a million times. When saying things are objectively evil, you are presumably comparing the real world to how some hippy dippy woke religion you subscribe to says things should be.
Yes he does.
You cannot execute judgement by doing something wrong or evil and then claim you're doing justice.
This is like torturing or raping a man for raping a young girl.
Some things are objectively good or evil regardless of circumstance.
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Your woke religion does not define what is objectively evil. Most of your criticisms of God are silly, and the rest are your silly misunderstanding. What is your problem with slavery, for example?Kalinago wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:29 pmYes there is.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:11 pmThere is nothing necessarily wrong with slavery as compared to many other arrangements. Yahweh does not advocate human sacrifice. The fact that bad things have to happen to people has been gone into a million times. When saying things are objectively evil, you are presumably comparing the real world to how some hippy dippy woke religion you subscribe to says things should be.
Yes he does.
You cannot execute judgement by doing something wrong or evil and then claim you're doing justice.
This is like torturing or raping a man for raping a young girl.
Some things are objectively good or evil regardless of circumstance.
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because self-autonomy is a divine,and thus good trait inherently,and restricting that(though it can never be restricted,just seemingly so)is not in accordance with goodness and auspiciousness.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:35 pmYour woke religion does not define what is objectively evil. Most of your criticisms of God are silly, and the rest are your silly misunderstanding. What is your problem with slavery, for example?Kalinago wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:29 pmYes there is.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 16th, 2023, 2:11 pmThere is nothing necessarily wrong with slavery as compared to many other arrangements. Yahweh does not advocate human sacrifice. The fact that bad things have to happen to people has been gone into a million times. When saying things are objectively evil, you are presumably comparing the real world to how some hippy dippy woke religion you subscribe to says things should be.
Yes he does.
You cannot execute judgement by doing something wrong or evil and then claim you're doing justice.
This is like torturing or raping a man for raping a young girl.
Some things are objectively good or evil regardless of circumstance.
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The Creator God is not under any obligation to comply with whatever silly derivative fantasies you pull out of your ass.
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if he is good,and autonomous,then that means autonomy is a good trait,and goodness is synonymous with autonomy,and autonomy with life.
so your 'god'is against beauty,good and life.
simple to understand.
also since although absolute slavery cannot exist,and autonomy is good,the fact your god wants people to be absolute slaves to him and give him absolute obediance,even when his commands are against good(like absolute slavery,people being absolute property to their 'owners') means he is not good,and thus not a true god,not alive as life itself but a being under illusionary powers of the true God shiva,he s not the truth either,or the path as these are all synonyms for each other.
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Autonomy in the way you mean is not always possible or desirable in this temporary training ground called life. God knows more about what is good for us than you. I bet next you are going to complain that God allows us to be harmed, the avoidance of which would involve God taking away our autonomy to avoid us harming each other. God knows how to get the balance just right.Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:10 amif he is good,and autonomous,then that means autonomy is a good trait,and goodness is synonymous with autonomy,and autonomy with life.
so your 'god'is against beauty,good and life.
simple to understand.
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it is if you break the veil of illusion of dependance,which doesn't exist,we are all autonomous,since we are all God.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:15 amAutonomy in the way you mean is not always possible or desirable in this temporary training ground called life. God knows more about what is good for us than you. I bet next you are going to complain that God allows us to be harmed, the avoidance of which would involve God taking away our autonomy to avoid us harming each other. God knows how to get the balance just right.Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:10 amif he is good,and autonomous,then that means autonomy is a good trait,and goodness is synonymous with autonomy,and autonomy with life.
so your 'god'is against beauty,good and life.
simple to understand.
the fact autonomy is good,means contingency is bad,and thus cannot existance,since God is existing,and has being and is being,and he is good,and autonomous,so existance and being cannot have contigency,which refutes your very claim of us being contigent on a dualistic 'God'.
it's just your illusory midn that creates such concepts lke the son of a barren woman,incoherent concepts which aren't true,which is why you're deluded and still under maya believing in some lying jewish guy on a stick being 'that'.
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You haven't established that autonomy in the way you mean is good. The rest is just nonsense.
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God is absolutely mand infinitely autonomous,and god is good,so absolute self-dependance,independance(within the realm of doing good,since good is coherence) and autonomy is good otherwise a good god wouldn't be it.
it also proves nothing is impure or a 'sin'except to the veiled mind,because coherence is good and goodness is coherence,and life is coherent,as are all possible things,and coherence is existing,and existance is coherent,so everything is pure like Saivism states.which is why the liberated yogi has no karma from doing things deemed impure to our veiled minds.
it's simple but the Lord(Siva)deluded you,and makes you not see clear things and concepts due to your attachment to some incoherent,and thus not 'true'(or existing)jewish skydaddy that hates life and beauty and existance.
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Ah no, that God may be a certain way doesn't imply that everyone must also be that way as you perceive it all the time. There are of course other fallacies you are committing.Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:21 amGod is absolutely mand infinitely autonomous,and god is good,so absolute self-dependance,independance(within the realm of doing good,since good is coherence) and autonomy is good otherwise a good god wouldn't be it.
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BTW, here is some commentary on Biblical slavery.
https://rumble.com/vqsaws-the-bible-and-slavery.html
https://rumble.com/vqsaws-the-bible-and-slavery.html
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if God is existance and being(in reality the two can't ever be seperated),and existance/being is good,and god is absolutely self-autonomous,then absolute self-autonomy is coherent with existance and goodness,and thus everything existing would be self-autonomous on a absolute level,aswell as pure because unlike you I believe reality is coherent with itself,and coherence with itself is the reality of things.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:38 amAh no, that God may be a certain way doesn't imply that everyone must also be that way as you perceive it all the time. There are of course other fallacies you are committing.Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 11:21 amGod is absolutely mand infinitely autonomous,and god is good,so absolute self-dependance,independance(within the realm of doing good,since good is coherence) and autonomy is good otherwise a good god wouldn't be it.
this will ultimately lead you to monism.
I just take everything to it's logical conclusion.
you think God can be the son of a barren woman by having true conceptual concepts coherently situated with non-concepts,or in more simpler terms,that he can incompatible attributes.
that makes you foolish and deluded.
God is self-coherent or he wouldn't be.all his attributes,like thomism rightfully claims are the exact same thing.
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You haven't established any cogent notion of God. All of this is a word game existing only in your own head. People who believe in non-insane versions of Christianity have great families, businesses and communities up and running as we speak and of course founded major civilisations. How about you?Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 12:03 pmif God is existance and being(in reality the two can't ever be seperated),and existance/being is good,and god is absolutely self-autonomous,then absolute self-autonomy is coherent with existance and goodness,and thus everything existing would be self-autonomous on a absolute level,aswell as pure because unlike you I believe reality is coherent with itself,and coherence with itself is the reality of things.
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they're still slaves living in fear.living up to a standard noone by paul's own admission can live up to,because it's incoherent.Cornfed wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 12:08 pmYou haven't established any cogent notion of God. All of this is a word game existing only in your own head. People who believe in non-insane versions of Christianity have great families, businesses and communities up and running as we speak and of course founded major civilisations. How about you?Kalinago wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2023, 12:03 pmif God is existance and being(in reality the two can't ever be seperated),and existance/being is good,and god is absolutely self-autonomous,then absolute self-autonomy is coherent with existance and goodness,and thus everything existing would be self-autonomous on a absolute level,aswell as pure because unlike you I believe reality is coherent with itself,and coherence with itself is the reality of things.
as for myself,all i need in life is a nice blonde girl with a good heart,living in nature,and a decent income.aswell as spirituality and spiritual knowledge,then I'm very happy.