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Inside The Secret World Of Incels

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First aired last week, a BBC documentary about incels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX_Za5ri8Y&t=8s


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Re: Inside The Secret World Of Incels

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Odd that they are talking about incels as some kind of weird cult when they probably constitute the vast majority of men in the West.
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Zambales wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 12:36 pm
First aired last week, a BBC documentary about incels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX_Za5ri8Y&t=8s
That was a truly interesting watch. Thanks for posting it.

One thing that is a constant thought of mine when I hear incels speak is that they do not realize it is not about sex. They are suffering from being devalued as men, period. To be a man in the West is to be ignored, abused, insulted, and treated as if he does not matter, sex or no sex.
To be a young female is to be exalted as a first class citizen and these men can only fathom their lack of sexual success instead of understanding the bigger picture.

The sad thing is if most incels got lucky with a hot girl, they would have the monkey of virginity off of their backs but still be miserable. Sex is overrated and Hollywood and mass media make young men feel as if they are losing out when they are not.

Personally, sex is risky and can be hazardous to one's physical, emotional, and financial health in the wrong circumstances. These incels are shielded from much of that, but because the nice guy always gets the girl in the movies, they feel they are being deprived of something.

I suppose they would feel better about life if they became sex addicts, carriers of sexually transmitted diseases, and fathers of unwanted children who pay child support 22 years.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 2:24 pm
One thing that is a constant thought of mine when I hear incels speak is that they do not realize it is not about sex. They are suffering from being devalued as men, period. To be a man in the West is to be ignored, abused, insulted, and treated as if he does not matter, sex or no sex.
To be a young female is to be exalted as a first class citizen and these men can only fathom their lack of sexual success instead of understanding the bigger picture.

The sad thing is if most incels got lucky with a hot girl, they would have the monkey of virginity off of their backs but still be miserable. Sex is overrated and Hollywood and mass media make young men feel as if they are losing out when they are not.

Personally, sex is risky and can be hazardous to one's physical, emotional, and financial health in the wrong circumstances. These incels are shielded from much of that, but because the nice guy always gets the girl in the movies, they feel they are being deprived of something.

I suppose they would feel better about life if they became sex addicts, carriers of sexually transmitted diseases, and fathers of unwanted children who pay child support 22 years.
I agree with all of this, but the thing is that it just isn't good enough. Incel or not, married or not, rich or poor, f**k this. We are being f***ed over in one way or another and developing coping mechanisms are not what we should be doing. The coping mechanism should involve the streets flowing with the blood of the animals doing this to us.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 2:24 pm
One thing that is a constant thought of mine when I hear incels speak is that they do not realize it is not about sex. They are suffering from being devalued as men, period. To be a man in the West is to be ignored, abused, insulted, and treated as if he does not matter, sex or no sex.
To be a young female is to be exalted as a first class citizen and these men can only fathom their lack of sexual success instead of understanding the bigger picture.
Young women don't get exalted. They get sexual attention, much of it unwanted attention BTW, and that's about it. Why else are all these young women working at low paid cashier and barista jobs?

Young volcel (not incel since they could always find a prostitute) men feel like losers because other men tell them they are losers for not getting lots of free sex with hot babes. Men mostly seek approval from other men, same as women mostly seek approval from other women. Men try to make other men feel sexually inadequate because that's a great way to exploit them. For example, our own Winston exploits men's feelings of sexual inadequacy using these loveme.com ads. MacDaddy using sex to sell tourism experiences on his culturewhiz (as in "take a wizz") website. Incel websites can presumably be monetized somehow, giving an incentive for the forum owner to keep incels trapped in their dead end thinking.

Aside from using prostitutes, volcels can also just jerk off to porn, which is about the same pleasure as real sex. If they weren't being constantly shamed by other men, especially other volcels, they would soon discover this obvious way to satisfy their physical sexual desires.
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Shemp wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 9:32 pm
Young women don't get exalted. They get sexual attention, much of it unwanted attention BTW, and that's about it.
They also get openly discriminated in favour of by misandrist female teachers in school, given scholarships and places in universities over males, largely given immunity from punishment from all but the crimes it would be an embarrassment to the system to ignore etc. Why say stupid shit?
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Re: Inside The Secret World Of Incels

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Shemp wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 9:32 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 2:24 pm
One thing that is a constant thought of mine when I hear incels speak is that they do not realize it is not about sex. They are suffering from being devalued as men, period. To be a man in the West is to be ignored, abused, insulted, and treated as if he does not matter, sex or no sex.
To be a young female is to be exalted as a first class citizen and these men can only fathom their lack of sexual success instead of understanding the bigger picture.
Young women don't get exalted. They get sexual attention, much of it unwanted attention BTW, and that's about it. Why else are all these young women working at low paid cashier and barista jobs?

Young volcel (not incel since they could always find a prostitute) men feel like losers because other men tell them they are losers for not getting lots of free sex with hot babes. Men mostly seek approval from other men, same as women mostly seek approval from other women. Men try to make other men feel sexually inadequate because that's a great way to exploit them. For example, our own Winston exploits men's feelings of sexual inadequacy using these loveme.com ads. MacDaddy using sex to sell tourism experiences on his culturewhiz (as in "take a wizz") website. Incel websites can presumably be monetized somehow, giving an incentive for the forum owner to keep incels trapped in their dead end thinking.

Aside from using prostitutes, volcels can also just jerk off to porn, which is about the same pleasure as real sex. If they weren't being constantly shamed by other men, especially other volcels, they would soon discover this obvious way to satisfy their physical sexual desires.
I do believe young men seek female approval far above and beyond make approval. Males are conditioned to seek the approval of females from infancy, to their female teachers, and then to their female peers. Male approval is desirable, but it is not even close.

On the question of exalted females in the West, the evidence is incontrovertible. If you can’t see it, I suggest you take a read of the article The Misandry Bubble which makes the case for females being grossly overvalued and men being undervalued in Western society and it goes far beyond sexual attention.
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Re: Inside The Secret World Of Incels

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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 2:24 pm
Zambales wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 12:36 pm
First aired last week, a BBC documentary about incels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DX_Za5ri8Y&t=8s
These incels are shielded from much of that, but because the nice guy always gets the girl in the movies, they feel they are being deprived of something.
The phrase "Be careful of what you wish for" certainly comes into fruition where serious relationships are concerned - and some of these guys are looking for just that. Realistically though, if you're not a Tom Cruise lookalike, the chances of a man being with a hot Western woman in that sense are notably slim - unless he's prepared to take the rough with the smooth and can hack being used, abused and treated like a slave.
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The Irish dude in the video stated that he was prepared to commit suicide if he couldn't find a girlfriend. Actually, out of the people featured, he came across with the better attitude. Women who commented on YT even said they would be interested in a guy like him despite him suffering from a skin condition (psoriasis I think) that effects his face too. In contrast, the guy with the mask was an immature jerk and needs to grow up fast.
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I made it to 1:03, at which point a black guy popped up who sounds just like ContrarianExpatriate. Is that you CE?

Unattractive guys have always existed. Back in the day, other guys, at the factory or other shit job where these unattractive men worked, would help out by putting them in contact with the town whore, herself no beauty. So they'd save their nickels and then get a taste of real sex once a week or month ot whatever to supplement masturbation, being sucked off by the town homo and/or f***ing dogs or other animals, whichever they preferred. As long as all this happened on the down low, police looked the other way, as sanctioned by town leaders. Ugly men just accepted that no woman wanted them and that was that. What has changed, more than anything, is we now have a culture of entitlement. What these incels really need is to be put to work in coal mines circa 1900, chipping away at rock by hand in stifling heat for hours at a time while breathing coal dust, constant threat of mine cave-in, and they'd soon forget their women problems. That's for the white guys. The black guy at 1:03 can be put to work on the surface picking cotton or chopping sugar cane, where his black skin will comes in handy as protection from sunburn.
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Shemp wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 3:52 am
I made it to 1:03, at which point a black guy popped up who sounds just like ContrarianExpatriate. Is that you CE?

Unattractive guys have always existed. Back in the day, other guys, at the factory or other shit job where these unattractive men worked, would help out by putting them in contact with the town whore, herself no beauty. So they'd save their nickels and then get a taste of real sex once a week or month ot whatever to supplement masturbation, being sucked off by the town homo and/or f***ing dogs or other animals, whichever they preferred. As long as all this happened on the down low, police looked the other way, as sanctioned by town leaders. Ugly men just accepted that no woman wanted them and that was that. What has changed, more than anything, is we now have a culture of entitlement. What these incels really need is to be put to work in coal mines circa 1900, chipping away at rock by hand in stifling heat for hours at a time while breathing coal dust, constant threat of mine cave-in, and they'd soon forget their women problems. That's for the white guys. The black guy at 1:03 can be put to work on the surface picking cotton or chopping sugar cane, where his black skin will comes in handy as protection from sunburn.
Or round them up and put into the ground as fertilizer :lol:
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Shemp wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 3:52 am
Unattractive guys have always existed. Back in the day, other guys, at the factory or other shit job where these unattractive men worked, would help out by putting them in contact with the town whore, herself no beauty. So they'd save their nickels and then get a taste of real sex once a week or month ot whatever to supplement masturbation, being sucked off by the town homo and/or f***ing dogs or other animals, whichever they preferred.
The thing is that the vast majority of young men are considered unattractive these days. In the past females had to pair up, so only a few men were left on the sidelines. Now with females as sluts married to the government they are free to only f**k a small percentage of men. The only solution is for females to not be allowed to marry the government.
What these incels really need is to be put to work in coal mines circa 1900, chipping away at rock by hand in stifling heat for hours at a time while breathing coal dust, constant threat of mine cave-in, and they'd soon forget their women problems.
In the past most of those men would be respected heads of a household staking out a future for their children. That is what motivated them. Just adding to the ways in which current men’s lives suck will not solve the problem.
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Cornfed wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 5:26 pm
Shemp wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 3:52 am
Unattractive guys have always existed. Back in the day, other guys, at the factory or other shit job where these unattractive men worked, would help out by putting them in contact with the town whore, herself no beauty. So they'd save their nickels and then get a taste of real sex once a week or month ot whatever to supplement masturbation, being sucked off by the town homo and/or f***ing dogs or other animals, whichever they preferred.
The thing is that the vast majority of young men are considered unattractive these days. In the past females had to pair up, so only a few men were left on the sidelines. Now with females as sluts married to the government they are free to only f**k a small percentage of men. The only solution is for females to not be allowed to marry the government.
What these incels really need is to be put to work in coal mines circa 1900, chipping away at rock by hand in stifling heat for hours at a time while breathing coal dust, constant threat of mine cave-in, and they'd soon forget their women problems.
In the past most of those men would be respected heads of a household staking out a future for their children. That is what motivated them. Just adding to the ways in which current men’s lives suck will not solve the problem.
Lol, a girlfriend is just that... a girl ***friend***. Only need decent looks, personality and know where to look. Eventually you'll then need to present a plan of action to secure their future. Mostly people want to be convinced there is a worthwhile reason to invest their time and money into something. Incels are almost always friendless losers with zero brains. Who wants to connect with someone that is going nowhere in life? :lol: for a female that's a recipe for getting their ass kicked and babies dying
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MacDaddy wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 6:12 pm
Lol, a girlfriend is just that... a girl ***friend***. Only need decent looks, personality and know where to look.
Studies have confirmed that "decent looks" currently means being in the top 10%. Of course there are other reasons that men get girlfriends, but the problem of only a minority getting them remains the same. Even if an individual man could stop being and incel, he would just be displacing someone else. This is a systemic problem, not a personal one.
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Cornfed wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 6:22 pm
MacDaddy wrote:
August 4th, 2019, 6:12 pm
Lol, a girlfriend is just that... a girl ***friend***. Only need decent looks, personality and know where to look.
Studies have confirmed that "decent looks" currently means being in the top 10%. Of course there are other reasons that men get girlfriends, but the problem of only a minority getting them remains the same. Even if an individual man could stop being and incel, he would just be displacing someone else. This is a systemic problem, not a personal one.
What studies? Tinder? LOL. The studies show most people are getting/got sex in the US. The number starts falling the older you get and less money/resources you have.

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In 2018, there were about 61.24 million married couples living in the U.S. Half of Americans ages 18 and older were married in 2017, a share that has remained relatively stable in recent years but is down 8 percentage points since 1990. One factor driving this change is that Americans are staying single longer.

The number of U.S. adults cohabiting with a partner is on the rise. In addition to the half of U.S. adults who were married, 7% were cohabiting in 2016. The number of Americans living with an unmarried partner reached about 18 million in 2016, up 29% since 2007. Roughly half of cohabiters are younger than 35 – but cohabitation is rising most quickly among Americans ages 50 and older.

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