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ErikHeaven
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My Opinion

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They are heroes. We type b.s in the comfort of our homes and they are fed up and now they are crashing Congressional hearings. I watched that on Youtube this morning. My only problem with them is this insane mentality that it has to remain non violent. This system has to be taken down and people have to be shot. We have to start all over again. You march and the power structure is sipping Patron and eating shrimp and crackers laughing at you.
Kill them all! And let the common man control government.


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Post by odbo »

Erik, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Yes

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And i repeat KILL THEM ALL. Non Violent Resistance cannot logically work every time all the time. Americans are soft afraid to kill and afraid to die. Kill them all!
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Re: Yes

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ErikHeaven wrote:And i repeat KILL THEM ALL. Non Violent Resistance cannot logically work every time all the time. Americans are soft afraid to kill and afraid to die. Kill them all!
Erik, its coming soon...trust me...it's going to happen sooner or later.
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I cannot wait the oppression has to come to an end.
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Gentlemen:

I understand the passionate feelings on these issues, but to call for violence, insurrection, and out and out sedition is wrongheaded not to mention unlawful.

The legality of free speech has a limit when it comes to calling for violence, and such could have an effect on the existence of this board.

Instead of calling for violence, why don't you vote, write letters to your members of Congress, impress others with your dissatisfaction, file lawsuits, and influence the body politic. If that does not work for you, just expatriate to another country.

Calling for violence against the government is essentially calling for violence against the American people. There would be 100 dissatisfied Americans willing to fight every dissatisfied American calling for the violent overthrow of this system. This system may be broken, but it is our system subject to lawful means of changing it.

Again, I understand the passions, but we are better than that in this country and on this board. Let's take a deep breath and redirect the vitriolic energy into constructive means to better our individual circumstances in this economic malaise.
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The whole system is rigged

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And the vote is rigged and everybody knows it. Maybe not on the state level but on the Federal its all tainted. I told a few people that if every American just decided not to show up on election day they would still have millions of votes registered the next day. Interesting experiment. No abolishing the government is actually in the Constitution its not illegal. Pacifism is not changing anything and staying comfortable is not changing anything as well. Remember Martin Luther King got arrested numerous times. Well non violent resistance will not work forever.
Every other suggestion is a colossal waste of time. We are that far gone.
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The politicians have already violated our Constitutional rights with the Patriot Act. They can declare any American an enemy combatant and jail you indefinetely without any charges, without any lawyers. I did not sign up to live in a dictatorship. And just face it we are living in a dictatorship. Obama is droning Americans now. I will speak out against these devils all day long and i do not care what happens. This is not the time to be acting like cowards.
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ErikHeaven wrote:The politicians have already violated our Constitutional rights with the Patriot Act. They can declare any American an enemy combatant and jail you indefinetely without any charges, without any lawyers. I did not sign up to live in a dictatorship. And just face it we are living in a dictatorship. Obama is droning Americans now. I will speak out against these devils all day long and i do not care what happens. This is not the time to be acting like cowards.
Actually it is worse than that now. You can be assassinated even if you are a citizen. That is what the hubbub over Obama killing that guy a couple of weeks ago was about.
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Hook wrote:
ErikHeaven wrote:The politicians have already violated our Constitutional rights with the Patriot Act. They can declare any American an enemy combatant and jail you indefinetely without any charges, without any lawyers. I did not sign up to live in a dictatorship. And just face it we are living in a dictatorship. Obama is droning Americans now. I will speak out against these devils all day long and i do not care what happens. This is not the time to be acting like cowards.
Actually it is worse than that now. You can be assassinated even if you are a citizen. That is what the hubbub over Obama killing that guy a couple of weeks ago was about.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/spy ... turns.html

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Americans Largely Silent as Their Nation is Systematically Destroyed


By JB Williams Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - Canada Free Press
Author BIO: http://www..americandaily.com/author/34

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/9607

After trillions in taxpayer debt has been foolishly poured into the bottomless black hole of leftist wealth redistribution programs, under the guise of economic “stimulus� or “stabilization� legislation, the new “ONE World� government running Washington DC continues to run wild -- and the people still sit silent as they watch Obamanation grow in unbridled power.

Geithner Asks Congress for even Broader Power to Seize private Firms as the average American stumbles through their daily routine as if nothing is happening. Canada Free Press managing editor Judi McLeod asks, "Is there no cheerleader for propping up the greenback at the G20 summit," and “Is the table being set for One World Government rather than speeding the recovery of the worldwide recession?"
Obamanation has taken the nation from a trillion in debt to over$4 trillion in debt in the first sixty days
, with even more federal spending promised, which could put the nation $10 trillion in debt before the 2010 mid-term election cycle.
Amnesty for illegals and ACORN-led redistricting will make 2010 and beyond a moot point.

Still, beyond the movement to mail tea bags to members of Congress or file another legal demand for proof of Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the office he holds, both of which are like whistling in the breeze, the people remain largely silent.

Threatened with a Soup Line Existence
The American people would never trade personal freedom for the false promise of federally redistributed free-stuff under some ill-fated socialist experiment, unless they were first threatened with a soup line existence.

And so it shall be…

50% of their life savings and 30% of their home values have already evaporated into thin air. National unemployment is driving towards double digits as home foreclosures continue to mound.

With their backs against the wall, confused by a daily diet of media manipulated headlines aimed at scaring the public into submission, convinced that our nation’s complex woes demand a solution far too complicated for the average peasant to comprehend, the people find themselves in a state of terminal paralysis.

Incompetent Evil in Charge
The same people responsible for the many disasters now surrounding every American household, were elected in 2006 and 2008 to fix what they broke. Instead of reversing course and placing their faith in the principles of freedom, they are installing more of the same failed entitlement policies that created the problem, and they are doing so at a feverish pace.

The folks currently in charge of the nation don’t like anything at all about the nation that once was. They have a very different vision for America , one based on redistribution of free-stuff, not equal access to freedom.

At the foundation of personal freedom is the right to make your own decisions, invest and risk your own capital, own your own property and keep that which you are willing to work and sacrifice to earn. It’s called economic freedom, aka capitalism.

But capitalism is public enemy #1 in America today, thanks to decades of class warfare and the art of division via social envy, all for purpose of political gain.

Life, Liberty and the right to individually define and pursue Happiness has been replaced with the right of some to take from others against their will, in the name of a greater common good, better defined as the entitlement mentality.

The Change Agents New World Dictionary
Old concepts have been redefined.
Capitalism is now referred to as Fascism.
Personal ambition is now called greed.
Those who seek access to other people’s rightful earnings are called charitable, and those who demand a right to only that, which they earn, are called greedy..

It isn’t just the words that have new definitions.
The concepts have new meaning as a result.

Words like socialism and communism no longer have a negative connotation attached to them. Most Americans have no idea what they are anymore, but may soon find out the hard way.

The concept of liberal interpretations limits the meaning of words only to one’s individual imagination. The Constitution means only what someone imagines it to mean. If the shoe doesn’t quite fit, a new definition will solve the problem.

What are Americans Waiting For?
I don’t know what it will take to wake up the average American, but whatever it is, it hasn’t happened yet…

The people currently stocking up on food, water, guns and ammo in record numbers are causing shortages at the retail level. They are clearly awake and anticipating something, but what is the rest of the country doing?

Those still trying to get a court somewhere in America to hear the arguments concerning the most secretive corrupt president in US history, have been awake for a long time. But they continue to have trouble waking anyone else up, including in the so-called halls of justice.

Is it a bankrupt dollar and a new international currency that will get their attention?
A North American Union ?
An ACORN Army on their doorstep?
What will be the final straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back?

I don’t have the answer… Frankly, I expected the people to revolt long before now.
Clearly, I had underestimated the depth of apathy and tolerance for anti-American nonsense in the average modern American. But then, so did their nation’s founders, whom I’m certain are rolling over in their graves in disgust by now.

The Silent Consent Continues
Nobody knows for how long or at what expense, but so far, the people remain silent and Washington continues to profitably interpret that silence as broad-based consent.

The clock isn’t just ticking. Time has already run out as of the 2008 election.
Washington DC is currently dismantling America, individual right by individual right, in an unprecedented massive multi-faceted assault on all things American.

If you are not familiar with the Democratic Socialists of America or their legislative branch, the Congressional Progressive Caucus, I strongly suggest that you take time to learn them well. They are in charge of your nation. This is who the average American is up against and they are a very well funded and organized enemy of the state.

You will not be able to take your country back without putting these two organizations out of business. The longer you wait, the tougher the battle, the higher the price.

Clearly, the organizational skills of the average American are equal only to that of the stumbling bumbling Republican Party. Fragmented, distracted and disorganized, the people are no match for the leftist juggernaut running roughshod in DC. The average American is so baffled by a daily diet of elitist B.S. that they cannot even see daylight.

A Canadian perspective.

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Here are three interesting videos of interviews with Gerald Celente on the second American Revolution.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/first-great ... lente.html

A collapse would be hugely positive, because once the gangsters who control the government and media with stolen money are gone, it would unleash the creativity that exists in the country. There are plenty of people who have good intentions and know how to construct sound and secure financial systems. The gangsters want to centralize everything so they have one point of control. A decentralized system would allow control at the local level, where gangsters could be quickly identified and neutralized.

North Dakota Fights Wall Street’s Influence with a State Bank
http://www.alternet.org/economy/152285/ ... state_bank_/
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"The banks fight back: Customers locked in and arrested after attempting to close their accounts in Occupy Wall Street protests"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1bFP2o5wJ
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Re: The whole system is rigged

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ErikHeaven wrote:And the vote is rigged and everybody knows it. Maybe not on the state level but on the Federal its all tainted. I told a few people that if every American just decided not to show up on election day they would still have millions of votes registered the next day. Interesting experiment. No abolishing the government is actually in the Constitution its not illegal. Pacifism is not changing anything and staying comfortable is not changing anything as well. Remember Martin Luther King got arrested numerous times. Well non violent resistance will not work forever.
Every other suggestion is a colossal waste of time. We are that far gone.

Bibliography to support your statement:

Vote Scam: The Stealing of America

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MrPeabody wrote:t.com/first-great-war-of-the-21st-century-is-here-with-gerald-celente.html

A collapse would be hugely positive, because once the gangsters who control the government and media with stolen money are gone, it would unleash the creativity that exists in the country. There are plenty of people who have good intentions and know how to construct sound and secure financial systems. The gangsters want to centralize everything so they have one point of control. A decentralized system would allow control at the local level, where gangsters could be quickly identified and neutralized.

North Dakota Fights Wall Street’s Influence with a State Bank
http://www.alternet.org/economy/152285/ ... state_bank_/

And the use of the word gangsters is correct. From my understanding, the Mafia of the old days moved their money and influence into politics and big business such as the pharmaceutical industry.
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I have one other comment. I think it's funny how American people started to protest against the government only once they found themselves without a home, out of a job, deep in student loan debt, and dependent on dwindling unemployment. Gosh, I would think it's hard to fight effectively from this position.

Hell, I knew this government was corrupt from mere observation back when I was about 15 years old and subsequently made the decision that I wouldn't play along with the game because it was rigged.

Admittedly, I was poor when I was younger so I saw the harsh realities of life at a young age unlike middle class kids who are often sheltered in life therefore they tend to believe the system because nothing disrupts their life to the point where they are forced to reevaluate and question the system because it appears to work for them.
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