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Happier Abroad Forum Community • Former British ambassador calls UK a rogue state
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Former British ambassador calls UK a rogue state

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 12:43 am
by Cornfed


Posted: September 1st, 2014, 1:34 am
by Bobby
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03501.html

I did enjoy this article about Craig Murray which I read in 2008. It's worth reading. Highly entertaining. I understand Murray struck up a relationship in Uzbekistan with Nadira Alieva, a dancer and a woman 23 years his junior and left his wife. After leaving the Foreign Affairs Ministry, it appears that money was tight:

"...Murray says the couple still has a net worth of less than $30,000, half of which is an antique Bible he owns. Alieva says she is still surprised that Murray, an important ambassador in his Uzbekistan days, is now nearly broke.

"I really thought he had some savings as an ambassador," she says, turning to him with a sharp laugh that says she's only half-kidding: "I still can't understand. How could you have no savings?"

"I come from poverty, and I fight not to have this poverty again," she says. "A rich man is not important, but having enough money is important."

Oh dear.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 1:38 am
by gsjackson
A rouge state? I thought the conservatives were in power? Doesn't sound too red to me.

Kidding aside, the point is spot on. The UK has become the little snapping attack poodle of the U.S. The country's vast stores of accumulated intelligence go completely unused on any matters of public policy now.

Decision day is coming up soon, Corny, you old Scotsman. Speaking as a mostly Scot, I'd like to see the split.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 2:11 am
by gsjackson
Bobby wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03501.html

I did enjoy this article about Craig Murray which I read in 2008. It's worth reading. Highly entertaining. I understand Murray struck up a relationship in Uzbekistan with Nadira Alieva, a dancer and a woman 23 years his junior and left his wife. After leaving the Foreign Affairs Ministry, it appears that money was tight:

"...Murray says the couple still has a net worth of less than $30,000, half of which is an antique Bible he owns. Alieva says she is still surprised that Murray, an important ambassador in his Uzbekistan days, is now nearly broke.

"I really thought he had some savings as an ambassador," she says, turning to him with a sharp laugh that says she's only half-kidding: "I still can't understand. How could you have no savings?"

"I come from poverty, and I fight not to have this poverty again," she says. "A rich man is not important, but having enough money is important."

Oh dear.
Very interesting article. Thanks for passing it along. I believe it was hav2fly who recommended Uzbekistan as a place to look for agreeable women. That torture stuff -- and the $9,000 dowry -- would certainly give pause.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 10:21 am
by Moretorque
It goes back centuries, that Navy Island was a conquers dream and history proves it.

Also people need to understand the purpose of a honest money system.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 12:57 pm
by Jester
gsjackson wrote:
Decision day is coming up soon, Corny, you old Scotsman. Speaking as a mostly Scot, I'd like to see the split.
Speaking for the Murrays and the Pattons on my Mom's side, I'd love to see it too.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 2:18 pm
by Ghost
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Posted: September 1st, 2014, 3:21 pm
by Moretorque
Ghost wrote:
Former British ambassador calls UK a rouge state
Do they also worship Satin? Hahaha. :)

Seriously, though, all the Anglo countries are rogue. Who else goes traipsing about the world toppling foreign governments? It's just they that are so intent on spreading their bullshit about. Got to keep that petrodollar (for the Americans anyway.) Though it isn't that others haven't done the same, but not so much and so forcefully.

England has certainly done its fair share as well, the brutality it committed over decades and centuries coming back to bite it in the a**. So afraid that the Brits allow Muslims into their country to rape little girls and raise not even a whimper in response.
We are a British colony nothing less, we use their financial system therefore we are the same as them politically. The US is the CITI's Pit Bull! England has been getting away with this century after century because of the herd who they dupe and control. It's the western peoples fault for being dumb sheep.

Posted: September 1st, 2014, 11:48 pm
by Will N. Dowd
Please change the spelling of your post subject from "rouge" to "rogue". Rouge means red in french.

Posted: September 2nd, 2014, 6:32 pm
by WindowLicker
Will N. Dowd wrote:Please change the spelling of your post subject from "rouge" to "rogue". Rouge means red in french.
The pun, although unintended, is apt. Today's average Brit is a red.