Gadfly wrote:Jester wrote:
In the Ferguson case, the cop was hopped up on steroids (my accusation stands, since cops use steroids, and since since he wasnt promptly tested for drugs), emptied his clip for no reason, fired at an unarmed guy 150 feet away. And the fix was in, with phonied up autopsies, intimidated witnesses and the works. Do I have proof? No. I have experience. If you want to say I'm wrong, OK. YOU provide proof.
So even though he wasn't tested for drugs, you know that he was "hopped up on steroids"? Because "you have experience"?
Yes I DO have experience. Personal experience. The roid-rager was in control, the calmer ones stood by hands in pockets.
My experience is evidence. Your cynicism is not.
Moreover Alex Jones said his info - and he as many police sources - said that about half the cops are using steroids.
Oh and here's what the cops themselves say:
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/maga ... e_id=62008
All this doesnt make them murderers, but it does make them dangerous, untrustworthy, and disqualified to keep the peace.
And it means also that the shooter should have been promptly tested for drugs.
"Emptied his clip for no reason"? He fired when Michael Brown charged at him. There were witnesses, even black ones, who testified to this.
I dont doubt that there was a struggle at the car door, and I can understand the first couple of shots. After that, Brown was fleeing. There was no charge. He apparently turned, but saying that he charged is just total bullshit.
The situation could have been handled with a billy club. Cops are not entitles to shoot any more than the rest of us are.
And in a situation that a single gunshot IS justified, a healthy trained cop does NOT automatically have a right to fire multiple shots just for fun.
Brown was 6' 4", and nearly 300 lbs.
Fat guys have rights too.
After being chased, he charged at the officer, and ignored the latter's repeated warnings to get on the ground.
You dont get to shoot a guy because he "disregards repeated warnings". That's murder.
The fact he was unarmed means squat.
No, wrong. That he was unarmed, means that the cop was in no danger once Brown had retreated or run a bit. The cop was safe, yet fired additional shots, because he was angry over being disrespected.
He was a menace
Lots of people are menacing. It is open season? If we meet, and I find you menacing, may I shoot you several times?
and his actions showed his total disregard for law and even his own life.
No question. There we agree. But you dont get to kill a man for that.
Oh and you didnt address my allegation that the police lie. This is the crux of it. If the cop had told the damn truth, I would be on his side, urging perhaps a manslaughter conviction and some mercy in sentencing. "When he ran, I got furious, I lost my temper. I'm deeply sorry" OK, if he passed a drug test, then maybe just a short prison sentence, plus no more work EVER as a cop or guard. But that's not what happened. The guy gloated, he is happy with what he did, the system allowed him to fabricate a story. And oh yes cops do fabricate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opini ... d=all&_r=0
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