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Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism in China:



A good overview of the teachings...

HenryGeorge wrote:Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism in China:



A good overview of the teachings...

Thing is all of those contradict each other.

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/confucianism/

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/buddhism/

this is a taoist priest who writes against confucianism AND buddhism and why it isnt compatible with Taoism.

Many Taoism sects in the past had went into the path of 3-in-1 because of the crooked politics, kings an queens in China in back then forcing this to happen. The kings and queens wanted Buddhism in the country so bad because they are into it and they want everybody into it as well. It was not accepted by the people at first and they modified it to fit the taste of Chinese culture and that is the birth of Chan’s Buddhism. Which is a Chinese-style Buddhism, totally changed to fit the Chinese’s taste — blending it with Taoism culture. The dogs and slaves of these kings who are willing to bow down and lick their toes will survive, those sects that don’t agree and want to stay pure Taoism got nuked. Yes, what’s left in China now is only crooked Taoism, the Quan Zhen Sect and the Zhen Yi Sect are famous ones. Anyway, let’s talk about Confucius and Confucianism.

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/confuci ... ism-blend/

theprimebait wrote:

HenryGeorge wrote:Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism in China:



A good overview of the teachings...

Thing is all of those contradict each other.

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/confucianism/

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/buddhism/

this is a taoist priest who writes against confucianism AND buddhism and why it isnt compatible with Taoism.

Thanks for posting. I had wondered about these VERY different-seeming religions, and how Chinese people seem to accept them all.

(Just for background, re who I am: I am a born-again, Biblical, Pentecostal, Catholic Christian who disregards "Church Fathers" and papal edict.)

TAOISM: I see the useful of Taoism - Tai Chi, Chi Gung, etc. Also as a nature religion, it's easy to see how it arose.

BUDDHISM: I haven't seen anything I disagree with that Siddhārtha Gautama himself said. Seems like a pretty wise Joe. I consider im a saint in the Christian sense, expect to see him in Heaven. Not planning to kiss his foot though. And I have no personal use for all the little god-lets and god-esses he retained from his Hindu youth. At least Taoist deities are rivers and stuff, rather than trans-species hybrids etc.

CONFUCIANISM: I don't see anything positive here except that it helps China and Singapore do business and get rich. The head is higher than the foot. Unh-hunh. The son has to take care of his cranky old parents and show them respect. Unh-hunh. Everybody should respect the bureaucrats. Unh-hunh. None of it does ME any good.

Not that I am an expert on any of this. Just my impressions.

Yeah, Confucianism ain't good if you're marrying a Chinese girl. Think of all those older relatives you'll need to support

And also respecting the corrupt state - also not good.

I don't know much about Buddhism, but there's a pretty wacky TV channel devoted to it in Thailand.

The Buddhist shrines in Thailand are pretty cool, what's not so cool is leaving food and sugary drinks out for zillions of flies to breed on. And of course there's the whole problem with stray dogs.

Jester wrote:

theprimebait wrote:

HenryGeorge wrote:Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism in China:



A good overview of the teachings...

Thing is all of those contradict each other.

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/confucianism/

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/buddhism/

this is a taoist priest who writes against confucianism AND buddhism and why it isnt compatible with Taoism.

Thanks for posting. I had wondered about these VERY different-seeming religions, and how Chinese people seem to accept them all.

(Just for background, re who I am: I am a born-again, Biblical, Pentecostal, Catholic Christian who disregards "Church Fathers" and papal edict.)

TAOISM: I see the useful of Taoism - Tai Chi, Chi Gung, etc. Also as a nature religion, it's easy to see how it arose.

BUDDHISM: I haven't seen anything I disagree with that Siddhārtha Gautama himself said. Seems like a pretty wise Joe. I consider im a saint in the Christian sense, expect to see him in Heaven. Not planning to kiss his foot though. And I have no personal use for all the little god-lets and god-esses he retained from his Hindu youth. At least Taoist deities are rivers and stuff, rather than trans-species hybrids etc.

CONFUCIANISM: I don't see anything positive here except that it helps China and Singapore do business and get rich. The head is higher than the foot. Unh-hunh. The son has to take care of his cranky old parents and show them respect. Unh-hunh. Everybody should respect the bureaucrats. Unh-hunh. None of it does ME any good.

Not that I am an expert on any of this. Just my impressions.

Devas are more so space aliens.Higher beings of intelligence.in fact they are not ''gods''at all.dewae means beings of light.I agree with alot of stuff that buddha said,but modern buddhism has totally corrupted it.the mahayana in terms of ritualism and their worship of buddha as a god.and the Therawada in their denial of the soul.especially the annata doctrine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEnb2cF ... ED&index=1

chk the playlist to see what I'm talking about.

Jester wrote:

theprimebait wrote:

HenryGeorge wrote:Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism in China:



A good overview of the teachings...

Thing is all of those contradict each other.

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/confucianism/

http://www.taoistmasterblog.com/category/buddhism/

this is a taoist priest who writes against confucianism AND buddhism and why it isnt compatible with Taoism.

Thanks for posting. I had wondered about these VERY different-seeming religions, and how Chinese people seem to accept them all.

(Just for background, re who I am: I am a born-again, Biblical, Pentecostal, Catholic Christian who disregards "Church Fathers" and papal edict.)

TAOISM: I see the useful of Taoism - Tai Chi, Chi Gung, etc. Also as a nature religion, it's easy to see how it arose.

BUDDHISM: I haven't seen anything I disagree with that Siddhārtha Gautama himself said. Seems like a pretty wise Joe. I consider im a saint in the Christian sense, expect to see him in Heaven. Not planning to kiss his foot though. And I have no personal use for all the little god-lets and god-esses he retained from his Hindu youth. At least Taoist deities are rivers and stuff, rather than trans-species hybrids etc.

CONFUCIANISM: I don't see anything positive here except that it helps China and Singapore do business and get rich. The head is higher than the foot. Unh-hunh. The son has to take care of his cranky old parents and show them respect. Unh-hunh. Everybody should respect the bureaucrats. Unh-hunh. None of it does ME any good.

Not that I am an expert on any of this. Just my impressions.

Buddha wasn't hindu.he followed the shramana tradition,not the Vedic.

chk this:

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2008/06/c ... uddha.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shramana

theprimebait wrote:Buddha wasn't hindu.he followed the shramana tradition,not the Vedic.

chk this:

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2008/06/c ... uddha.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shramana

Interesting.

Guess we normally get dumbed-down version of history.

I've seen that with science too. Hate it.

Two questions for you:

(1) So now that the traditions in India have largely merged into the modern Hindu "soup", do most Hindus NOW believe in repeated reincarnation until nirvana or whatever?

(2) If so, then why are Hindus so much more warlike and pugnacious and contentious than Buddhists in SEA? Why don't they at least PRETEND to be peaceloving, like Buddhist countries do?

Jester wrote:

theprimebait wrote:Buddha wasn't hindu.he followed the shramana tradition,not the Vedic.

chk this:

http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2008/06/c ... uddha.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shramana

Interesting.

Guess we normally get dumbed-down version of history.

I've seen that with science too. Hate it.

Two questions for you:

(1) So now that the traditions in India have largely merged into the modern Hindu "soup", do most Hindus NOW believe in repeated reincarnation until nirvana or whatever?

(2) If so, then why are Hindus so much more warlike and pugnacious and contentious than Buddhists in SEA? Why don't they at least PRETEND to be peaceloving, like Buddhist countries do?

it depends on what hinduism.in ,Vashnaiva yes they believe in reincarnation until reaching moksha,wich is becoming one with the soul of all(''Brahman'').Vaishnava is a copy of buddhism might I add.

Hinduism is a cult based on animal sacrifice,and war,it never upheld to ahimsa.

The Chāndogya Upaniṣad, dated to the 8th or 7th century BCE, one of the oldest Upanishads, has the earliest evidence for the use of the word Ahimsa in the sense familiar in Hinduism (a code of conduct). It bars violence against "all creatures" (sarvabhuta) and the practitioner of Ahimsa is said to escape from the cycle of metempsychosis (CU 8.15.1).[28] A few scholars are of the opinion that this passage was a concession to growing influence of shramanic culture, primarily Jainism, on the Brahmanical religion.[29][30]

The Hindu precept of 'cause no injury' applies to animals and all life forms. This precept isn’t found in the oldest verses of Vedas, but increasingly becomes one of the central ideas between 500 BC and 400 AD.

ahimsa in old hindu texts just ment don't cause injury to the sacrificer.it later took on a philosophical meaning by influence of Shramanic Tradition.now hindus claim to uphold to Ahimsa,but they never do in practice.

real hinduism is a sacrifical cult of warlike bandits.all the sophisticated Ideas(karma,rebirth) are later ,stolen from shramana traditions.almost anything noble in hindu religion is copied from another religion.original hinduism is a barbaric unsophisticated cult.

a cult of cow herding nomads that worshiped evil spirits and superstitious ghosts.

Hinduism shoud be taken as seriousely as nordic mythology.

Jester wrote: Thanks for posting. I had wondered about these VERY different-seeming religions, and how Chinese people seem to accept them all.

IMO Chinese, Japanese, and Vietnamese tend to lean toward syncretism, while Koreans tend to lean in the other direction.