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New movie about a guy who discovers he's in a computer simulation game.

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6264654/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

A bank teller discovers that he's actually an NPC inside a brutal, open world video game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Guy

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In the open world video game Free City, an amalgamation of Grand Theft Auto and Fortnite, Guy (Reynolds) is a non-player character (NPC) working as a bank teller. Thanks to a code developed by programmers Milly (Comer) and Keys (Keery) inserted into Free City by the publisher Antoine (Waititi), Guy becomes aware of his world being a video game, and takes steps to make himself the hero, creating a race against time to save the game before the developers can shut it down.[2][3]
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Interview with Donald Hoffman about why our reality is not what we think it is.



Most of us believe we perceive reality as it generally is, with perhaps some slight distortions. But mathematical models based on natural selection suggest that our strongest intuitions may be false. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Donald Hoffman and Tom Bilyeu discuss the fascinating possibilities that stem from the theory that evolution gave us the equivalent of a desktop interface that hides the real truth from us so that we can take effective action. They discuss the nature of consciousness, free will, space-time, causality and the self.

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Most of us believe that we see reality as it is. But we don’t. [1:14]
Donald describes how mathematical game theory explains natural selection [3:42]
Donald talks about a game he created to simulate evolution [9:33]
Seeing the truth and seeing what you need to survive are very different things [13:51]
Evolution gave us the equivalent of a desktop interface, not the truth [18:11]
Every creature has a different user interface and perceives a different reality [24:57]
Science progresses because we push our best theories to their limit [29:05]
If we let go of logic and reasoning, then we have nothing left [32:10]
There will always be unprovable truths. You can never know it all. [35:14]
Evolution has created various forms of virtual reality [39:40]
Donald describes the process by which you “see” an apple [42:05]
Evolution tells us that the language of space and time does not describe reality [47:53]
Donald proposes that reality is a vast social network of conscious agents [49:39]
A conscious agent creates their interpretation from their experiences [53:32]
What is consciousness? [57:12]
What does a conscious agent need to do? [1:00:49]
Donald and Tom discuss fascinating cases of split-brain patients [1:08:13]
If your visualization tool is very good, it can focus on finer and finer detail [1:11:36]
If space-time is doomed then is causality doomed as well? [1:22:17]
Tom and Donald discuss the nature of cause and effect [1:24:35]
Donald discusses free will and its relationship to cause and effect [1:28:01]
The self is a construction just like space and time [1:30:27]
You can never experience yourself choosing [1:39:15]
Donald describes the experience of realizing that he is just inside a VR headset [1:40:01]
What created math? [1:44:53]
What’s the difference between math all the way down and turtles all the way down? [1:50:25]
Tom and Donald discuss the double-slit experiment in physics [1:56:18]
Donald talks about his wife and his marriage [2:01:49]
Donald and Tom discuss the possibility of taking off the headset [2:03:10]
Donald and Tom discuss why they haven’t used psychedelics [2:07:10]
Since space-time is doomed, what’s next? [2:13:27]

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The Tron movies are a great metaphor and allegory about our reality and matrix we live in. See below.

A great explanation of the estoteric and metaphorical meaning of the two Tron movies, and how they also relate to our world and matrix reality and themes in Christianity and Gnosticism.

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/T ... .html#tron

TRON [1982] (DISNEY)

When Disney makes a serious Sci-Fi movie, one should pay attention as they don't make many. The themes in Tron run very deep and get to the root of the issues of God and the Devil, good and evil, and man and machine. The movie is about a video game designer, Kevin Flynn, who gets lost or trapped in his game. He programmed an avatar of himself to oversee the game while he couldn't be there. His partner and his arch-nemesis at the company he works for also have avatars in the game. The Master Control Program (MCP) zaps Flynn into the video game with a laser beam. The MCP is the avatar of his nemesis who steals his games, one of which is named Matrix Blaster, and takes credit for it. It's worth noting this Disney movie referenced a video game about blasting the matrix almost twenty years before the first Matrix movie was made. And the idea of a human becoming trapped in his own game of his creation is also pretty ahead of its time. He creates an AI being in his own image to create the perfect system. This has obvious overtones to the Biblical story of God, man and Lucifer. Being a Disney film though it is not surprising that it helps to push the acceptance of transhumanism and the merger of man and machine, and a virtual world. Although the Zen Buddhist / Taoist philosophy is given much attention, going to the light is pushed especially in the second film where Quorra is literally told to "Head towards the light".

The MCP starts taking over the functions of all the programs who believe in human Users. If he thinks the programs are useful, he sends them to the Game Grid to play games and "to get your bits blasted" where it dies or is de-rezzed. Flynn made a program named Clu, the best program he ever wrote, and taught Clu to oversee everything while he was away. Clu was his mirror image and looks like him and acts like him. He instructed Clu to make the perfect system. But there is an independent program named Tron that acts as a watchdog and monitors all contacts between Flynn's system and other systems then finds anything going on that's not scheduled and it shuts it down.

Clu is an anagram of Luc, a root word which mean "light" and is an abbreviation of Lucifer. Kevin tasked Clu with creating the perfect system.

TRON: LEGACY [2010] (DISNEY)

Tron: Legacy is the sequel to the 1982 Disney movie, Tron. Kevin Flynn, the inventor of the Tron game, has gone missing. He was researching genetic algorithms and quantum teleportation to realize his goal of "a digital frontier to reshape the human conditon". Twenty years later, his business partner gets a page from him. Kevin's son, Sam, goes to the old arcade to investigate. Like his father, Sam is zapped into the digiital world of the video game and is treated like a program even though he is a user. He meets Clu, the mirror image of his father, who despises him and sends him into the game grid. He has to fight for his life in the game grid. An ISO named Quorra helps him escape the game grid and find his father. His father tells him he was trapped in the game and couldn't return home. When Sam entered the game it opened a portal in the I/O tower. The portal will only be open for a short time, but Clu and the MCP do not want them to exit the system. The movie seems to explore the idea of transhumanism. It is good that Flynn is shown meditating and teaching a Zen Buddhism philosophy which actually gives him insight into how and when to escape the matrix. There are subtle messages here and there such as doing nothing and Quorra removing herself from the equation.

Kevin Flynn is the Creator or God. Clu is Lucifer, the most perfect being, the Demiurge archetype, in search of a perfect system, one that is superior to its creator's. Sam is the son of Flynn (God) and enters the game to rescue Quorra and his father. In this respect, Sam is the Christ figure or savior. Sam is like Neo, Thomas Anderson (whose name literally means "Son of Man"), the one, the savior. Quorra looks very similar to Trinity of The Matrix series. This is because they both represent Sophia, the bride of Christ. The shorter black hair may be indicative of the Isis archetype though I am ot sure. Quorra is said to be an ISO, an Isomorphic algorithm, a whole new life form with manifested like a flame from "nothing". Quorra, like Sophia the Gnostic goddess of wisdom, is "profoundly naive, unimaginably wise", was going to be Flynn's "gift to the world", but Clu "happened". Flynn had hoped to find control, order and and perfection but the ISOs shattered that "hall of mirrors".

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This is a great metaphor for what the matrix does with us and uses us.

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Great metaphor and allegory about the God vs. Lucifer relationship. Remember CLU is an anagram of LUC or LUCIFER.

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Check out this 2018 article effectively debunking this conspiracy theory:
https://futurism.com/sorry-elon-physici ... simulation

Plus, if there are other civilizations out there, there is no reason to believe with certainty that they have developed computers, let alone this sophisticated of technology for personal or recreational use.
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WisconsinMan82 wrote:
July 27th, 2020, 4:29 pm
Check out this 2018 article effectively debunking this conspiracy theory:
https://futurism.com/sorry-elon-physici ... simulation

Plus, if there are other civilizations out there, there is no reason to believe with certainty that they have developed computers, let alone this sophisticated of technology for personal or recreational use.
That's an interesting article. However, there are several problems here.

1. First it assumes that the universe is as big as cosmologists/astronomers say it is. We simply can't know that, and no human today can leave low earth orbit. And the 1969 moon landings are very suspect because the photos/videos from it have been found to contain a lot of fakery in it, and the Apollo missions have countless problems with it, which suggest that they were faked. Either way, today no one can go into outer space so we cannot prove what's beyond low earth orbit or if even outer space exists at all. The sky above us could be a hologram or illusion. After all, if we were in a simulation, why would the computer expend so much resources to create a huge universe of mostly empty space? Much easier to generate a hologram or screen of space, like you see in a planetarium. We can only take on faith what astronomy tells us. None of us can go into outer space to verify how big it is.

2. The article assumes quantum physics to be a real science. However, no microscope in the world can see an atom or quantum particles. They are all theoretical, based on mathematical equations. Tesla and Russell Wallace said that modern science is based on equations on a chalkboard only, not on anything real which is testable or observable. Robert Otey and Matt Presti have done many podcasts explaining why quantum physics is not real and is pseudo and never been proven. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... att+presti

They argue that Walter Russell's spiraling light theory best explains the universe without contradictions or mysteries, and in simple terms, unlike quantum physics which contain many contradictions and is too complex for anyone to understand. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... er+russell

https://www.philosophy.org/about.html#/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=3923

So if the quantum universe doesn't exist, then a computer simulation would not need infinite computing power to create this world. Especially if the universe isn't as big as they claim.

3. Professor James Gates said that he found "error correcting code" in the building blocks of the universe. If that's true then that's a SMOKING GUN because error correcting codes are only found in software like Microsoft Windows, and in computer programs.

However, I don't understand how computer AI characters can have consciousness. That's a tough one. Maybe the universe is a hybrid of a simulation and cosmic consciousness divided into many fragments? Or we could be users like in the movie Tron, an outside being entering the matrix with an avatar computer generated body. Or some of us could be users, while most are programs, which is why most people are just sheep and lemmings.
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^ Maybe I'm the only real human and all y'all are just NPCs.

If everything is theoretical and based on math, how could he have found this "error correcting code" definitively, as opposed to just hypothesizing it based on more math? Besides, this is really just a misunderstanding or dumbing-down of terms; what he found has nothing to do with a computer coding language; it merely has a strong resemblance to Shannon coding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon_coding), which is another way of representing things mathematically. String theory is entirely mathematically representing and simulating what is going on in the world around us.

There aren't error-correcting codes in DNA; if something in our DNA is wrong in enough cells, our body wouldn't be able to work properly anyway. Mess-ups in human DNA are why we have Down's syndrome and all kinds of other genetic disorders; a cell mutation happened and what happened is, the human doesn't function as intended.

Here is another article. This is barely even science; it's basically just a conspiracy theory.
https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GAL ... =AONE&sw=w

Here is another article. There is no "simulated stuff".
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yp3b ... simulation
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Astrophysicist in Ted talk proves that you are living in a simulation.



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Winston wrote:
July 28th, 2020, 6:27 am
However, I don't understand how computer AI characters can have consciousness. That's a tough one. Maybe the universe is a hybrid of a simulation and cosmic consciousness divided into many fragments? Or we could be users like in the movie Tron, an outside being entering the matrix with an avatar computer generated body. Or some of us could be users, while most are programs, which is why most people are just sheep and lemmings.
That's the farthest I'd be willing to go on this conspiracy theory. I wouldn't be too surprised if 80% of us were just NPCs. The only person we truly know to be conscious is oneself. AI characters cannot be conscious.
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Irish philosopher and deep thinker Darryl Sloan's deep thoughts on whether we live in the Matrix or a computer simulation or not.

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Thanks WisconsinMan. This is a really good article that gives logical arguments why the Simulation Hypothesis doesn't make sense, and how computational computers can't create consciousness or minds.

Elon Musk Is Wrong. We Aren't Living in a Simulation
A simulated apple can't feed anybody, and other reality checks by a philosopher and a cognitive scientist.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/yp3b7w/ ... simulation

However, can't a simulated apple feed a simulated person if the program tells it to?

What do you think of the Hologram theory of the universe?

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New documentary about simulation theory.

A Glitch in the Matrix (2021)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9847360/?ref_=vp_back

Documentary filmmaker Rodney Ascher tackles this question "are we living in a simulation?" with testimony, philosophical evidence and scientific explanation in his for the answer.

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New video explains why we are probably NOT a simulation.

Have you ever have a dream you were so sure was real? The simulation argument challenges our very notions of reality by asking whether everything we perceive is nothing more than an elaborate computer simulation. Recently, we've even seen headlines like "one in a billion" probability that we live in the real world. Could this be right? How does this affect how we think about our lives? And are there any counter-arguments to save us? New research from the Cool Worlds Lab resolves.

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The universe has some holographic properties and digital properties. But the problems with the simulation theory are:

1. Video game characters do not have consciousness or awareness or soul. They can only follow a program.

2. As critics say, an apple on a screen no matter how good the photo or CGI can never taste like a real organic apple. No matter how many pixels it has.

3. If we are a simulation then who created the people who created this simulation? Are they in a simulation too? How would they know? Where does the original base reality come from? God? By random chance? The questions will never end and go ad infinitum.

4. Why would outer space be mostly empty with most planets having no life? That would be a waste of computer space with no purpose. No one would design a world that inefficient, using so many resources for nothing and creating life only on a few planets.

Those who propose the simulation theory never address these problems.

It seems that the universe has digital and holographic properties and has awareness and consciousness and life everywhere too, even in rocks and trees. So the universe must have living organic properties, spiritual properties and digital/holographic properties too. It seems to be a hybrid of all of them. Plus the universe is a living entity too. See "pantheism" and "gaia theory".

Those are my thoughts on it. What u think?
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Produced by Chris Geo on fb

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15 minutes will blow your mind

Wow. Very mind blowing. But I dont understand. If we are in a machine how do we have consciousness? Video game characters dont have consciousness right?

So the vaccines are an upgrade? If so why cant they just upgrade us without vaccines? Computers can do anything right?
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Winston wrote:
July 2nd, 2021, 12:18 am
Produced by Chris Geo on fb

http://www.wearechangehuerfano.us/resetthematrix.mp4

15 minutes will blow your mind

Wow. Very mind blowing. But I dont understand. If we are in a machine how do we have consciousness? Video game characters dont have consciousness right?

So the vaccines are an upgrade? If so why cant they just upgrade us without vaccines? Computers can do anything right?
It's nonsensical drivel. If you wanted to "upgrade" everyone doing it via a virus would be far more efficient than via a vaccine, as a virus spreads but a vaccine doesn't. This is next level stupidity. If we are in a simulation of sorts the only reason I can think that an upgrade would have to be done within the simulation rather than server-side, as it were, would be that doing things server-side may require a reboot of sorts. As to why we would have consciousness but our computers do not, well... That's the tricky thing. Brain scans show that decisions are made before you realize you have made them, and it is very likely that consciousness (and free will alongside it) is an illusion created to make reality more bearable as we experience it. Basically consciousness is a shiny screen through which we see our actions occurring, but similar to a game that offers the illusion of choice while having limited outcomes, this illusion is false in nature. Our computers cannot do this because they are binary machines, running on ones and zeroes, while consciousness is quantum in nature due to its complexity
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