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Given that most people in the modern West are dysgenic scum whose lives suck, maybe it isn't OK to live an ordinary life.
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Cornfed wrote:
October 29th, 2020, 10:11 pm
Given that most people in the modern West are dysgenic scum whose lives suck, maybe it isn't OK to live an ordinary life.
I don't think the author of the video, a famous philosopher, was referring to the "dysgenic scum". He was referring to people who shouldn't be contented of having an ordinary life: a job, a family, a few good friends, some travelling and world discovery, etc.

I think it's a typical product of the "American dream" mentality, that one should feel constantly scrutinized and judged whenever their lives cannot quite get to the level of material wealth owned by the Ferrari-driving millionaire CEO or celebrity.

The "fake it till you make it" mentality is very well at work on at least 2 members, who shall remain unnamed, who have based their entire posting history on posing as the successful, wealthy, smart entrepreneurs who can get any hot girl they want, James Bond style. Their desire to belong to the elite, to be part of the top 1%, is so strong it has turned into a fixation, which drives their mental state and whatever they say, at least on here.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:
November 1st, 2020, 12:01 pm
Always better than an angry "high-status" man in his dreams :D

You are too deluded, or perhaps too stupid, to realise how hopelessly BUSTED you are, man. Absolutely nobody believes your tall tales of wealth and success, your serene retiree life, and etc. If you had any of that, you certainly wouldn't be here sweating and shouting, looking for the kind of validation you don't have in real life.

And even those who might believe it, at least in part, probably don't give a rat's a$$ about it. They live their lives as "ordinary men" and leave you to your constant mental masturbation of a desperate loner.
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I did a search of people I went to school with, spent a good couple of hours googling them, and what came back surprised me - a big old list of DUI's, obituaries, court appearances with the big one being a mate of mine being sentenced for 15 years for heading a major heroin ring, he was a good lad at school, a bit of a rogue but never in a million years would I have thought out he would turn out to be a local smack king.

When reading about the court apperances, DUI's and obituaries - not a single one of them had moved even a mile from the place they went to school in all these years - some of them died tragically, suicide, breast/ovarian cancer and left families and children - but the others - what life did they lead? Not one I would want that's for sure! They have just wasted their 40 odd years stood or sat in the same place as when they were children and then I realised how lucky I am.

They're not even 'ordinary' lives in a lot of cases for that would be a big step up, they go on and on making mistakes and never f***ing learning - so, yeah, it is OK to live an ordinary life but if I had the chance to talk to any of these people (for the first time in many years...) I would just say, what's wrong with taking a risk? If they saved some money and went to live somewhere new for a few months, how could that not enrich their life? Make an effort at least!
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yick wrote:
November 1st, 2020, 8:05 pm
I did a search of people I went to school with, spent a good couple of hours googling them, and what came back surprised me - a big old list of DUI's, obituaries, court appearances with the big one being a mate of mine being sentenced for 15 years for heading a major heroin ring, he was a good lad at school, a bit of a rogue but never in a million years would I have thought out he would turn out to be a local smack king.

When reading about the court apperances, DUI's and obituaries - not a single one of them had moved even a mile from the place they went to school in all these years - some of them died tragically, suicide, breast/ovarian cancer and left families and children - but the others - what life did they lead? Not one I would want that's for sure! They have just wasted their 40 odd years stood or sat in the same place as when they were children and then I realised how lucky I am.

They're not even 'ordinary' lives in a lot of cases for that would be a big step up, they go on and on making mistakes and never f***ing learning - so, yeah, it is OK to live an ordinary life but if I had the chance to talk to any of these people (for the first time in many years...) I would just say, what's wrong with taking a risk? If they saved some money and went to live somewhere new for a few months, how could that not enrich their life? Make an effort at least!
I too have a lot of friends who burned themselves along the way. People take risks and, most of the times, it doesn't turn out the way they wanted or expected. People make terrible mistakes, like becoming criminals or drug dealers, perhaps because they are coerced into it, or perhaps by choice, because they think it will be an easy way to be "rich and successful".

After all, it's another major trait of modern society, that people will admire you for your money without even asking themselves whether you made them honestly or dishonestly, or whether the Lambo parked outside your mansion was leased or paid in cash. It's all about appearing, and appearing now.

I think the message the OP video is giving is not to avoid taking risks and live in fear, but not to be feel judged and depressed if the risks we take, the choices we make, don't always pan out 100% and we end up being a lot less glamorous and successful as we would like to. In other words, more "ordinary" than we wanted to be, or more ordinary than the car ad wants us to be. And that's OK.

If you want to see to what level of mental illness the obsession about wanting to be rich and successful, or at least pretend to, just look at our senile poster here @Contrarian Expatriate. Pretending that he is the alpha, the king of the jungle who can outsmart and out-rich everyone in here (and outside here), the top 5%, is not only embarrassing himself to no end. It is also keeping him constantly angry, nervous and fixated with what 10 people in an anonymous forum think about him.

You can see from his posts how absolutely earth-shattering it is for him when someone doubts or criticises the mind movie he projects to himself every day.
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What a dumb video. The man is absolutely uneducated. Of course, the poster, being herdish and intellectually narrow, would post something so blatantly self-serving and stupid. Life energy is the source of suffering for some, since it is essentially insatiable. The only thing that can be done to reduce one 's pain is to find ways to calm it down. Artists channel it into a will to create. Businessmen satisfy it through becoming rich, etc, etc. A lot of common men like to cast themselves as superior or equal to people who dream, aspire and take chances instead of simply earning a living and staying warm. I mean seriously, what wrong with being ordinary? The last man is the term used in The Spoke Zarathustra by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche to describe the antithesis of his theorized superior being, the Übermensch, whose imminent arrival is heralded by Zarathustra.

https://youtu.be/WnhMJl11JUo

The Last Man is the individual who specializes not in creation, but in consumption. In the midst of satiating base pleasures, he claims to have “discovered happiness” by virtue of the fact that he lives in the most materially luxurious era in human history. But this self-infatuation of the Last Man conceals an underlying resentment, and desire for revenge. On some level, the Last Man knows that despite his pleasures and comforts, he is empty and miserable. With no aspiration and no meaningful goals to pursue, he has nothing he can use to justify the pain and struggle needed to overcome himself and transform himself into something better. He is stagnant in his nest of comfort, and miserable because of it. This misery does not render him inactive, but on the contrary, it compels him to seek victims in the world. He cannot bear to see those who are flourishing and embodying higher values, and so he innocuously supports the complete de-individualization of every person in the name of equality. The Last Man’s utopia is one in which total equality is maintained not from without, by an oppressive ruling class, but from within, through the “evil-eye” of envy and ridicule.

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Italianman wrote:
November 3rd, 2020, 9:19 pm
What a dumb video. The man is absolutely uneducated. Of course, the poster, being herdish and intellectually narrow, would post something so blatantly self-serving and stupid. Life energy is the source of suffering for some, since it is essentially insatiable. The only thing that can be done to reduce one 's pain is to find ways to calm it down. Artists channel it into a will to create. Businessmen satisfy it through becoming rich, etc, etc. A lot of common men like to cast themselves as superior or equal to people who dream, aspire and take chances instead of simply earning a living and staying warm. I mean seriously, what wrong with being ordinary? The last man is the term used in The Spoke Zarathustra by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche to describe the antithesis of his theorized superior being, the Übermensch, whose imminent arrival is heralded by Zarathustra.

https://youtu.be/WnhMJl11JUo

The Last Man is the individual who specializes not in creation, but in consumption. In the midst of satiating base pleasures, he claims to have “discovered happiness” by virtue of the fact that he lives in the most materially luxurious era in human history. But this self-infatuation of the Last Man conceals an underlying resentment, and desire for revenge. On some level, the Last Man knows that despite his pleasures and comforts, he is empty and miserable. With no aspiration and no meaningful goals to pursue, he has nothing he can use to justify the pain and struggle needed to overcome himself and transform himself into something better. He is stagnant in his nest of comfort, and miserable because of it. This misery does not render him inactive, but on the contrary, it compels him to seek victims in the world. He cannot bear to see those who are flourishing and embodying higher values, and so he innocuously supports the complete de-individualization of every person in the name of equality. The Last Man’s utopia is one in which total equality is maintained not from without, by an oppressive ruling class, but from within, through the “evil-eye” of envy and ridicule.

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If one examines patriarchialist appropriation, one is faced with a choice:
either reject the poststructural paradigm of reality or conclude that class,
perhaps surprisingly, has objective value, but only if culture is
interchangeable with truth; if that is not the case, we can assume that context
comes from the masses. Therefore, Foucault promotes the use of subtextual
dialectic theory to attack consciousness.

“Sexual identity is dead,” says Bataille; however, according to Drucker[1] , it is not so much sexual identity that is dead, but
rather the futility, and thus the fatal flaw, of sexual identity. The premise
of the poststructural paradigm of reality suggests that the goal of the writer
is social comment, given that capitalist nihilism is invalid. Thus, the subject
is interpolated into a postcultural capitalism that includes culture as a
totality.

“Society is part of the paradigm of consciousness,” says Baudrillard. Any
number of discourses concerning the role of the artist as observer exist.
Therefore, the creation/destruction distinction which is a central theme of
Tarantino’s Four Rooms emerges again in Pulp Fiction, although in
a more constructive sense.

Sartre’s analysis of the poststructural paradigm of reality states that
sexuality is intrinsically meaningless. But in Four Rooms, Tarantino
deconstructs capitalist nihilism; in Jackie Brown, although, he denies
neocapitalist cultural theory.

If capitalist nihilism holds, we have to choose between the poststructural
paradigm of reality and postcapitalist dematerialism. Thus, the premise of
capitalist nihilism holds that culture is used to reinforce the status quo, but
only if language is equal to narrativity; otherwise, Foucault’s model of
Marxist capitalism is one of “semiotic neoconstructivist theory”, and hence
part of the economy of reality.

The subject is contextualised into a poststructural paradigm of reality that
includes consciousness as a reality. In a sense, an abundance of situationisms
concerning Sontagist camp may be found.

La Fournier[2] states that we have to choose between
subtextual dialectic theory and subcultural structuralism. Therefore, Debord
uses the term ‘deconstructive desublimation’ to denote a mythopoetical whole.

The main theme of the works of Tarantino is the defining characteristic, and
subsequent stasis, of neotextual language. Capitalist nihilism suggests that
narrative must come from communication. In a sense, if subtextual dialectic
theory holds, we have to choose between capitalist nihilism and patriarchial
subcultural theory.

“Class is impossible,” says Lacan; however, according to Abian[3] , it is not so much class that is impossible, but rather
the fatal flaw, and thus the paradigm, of class. Marx suggests the use of
dialectic discourse to deconstruct capitalism. Therefore, a number of
dematerialisms concerning the bridge between sexual identity and society exist.

If one examines the poststructural paradigm of reality, one is faced with a
choice: either accept capitalist nihilism or conclude that the State is capable
of significant form, given that the premise of neotextual appropriation is
valid. Lyotard uses the term ‘subtextual dialectic theory’ to denote a cultural
totality. However, Sontag’s model of Sartreist existentialism states that
consciousness is fundamentally used in the service of class divisions.

The subject is interpolated into a subtextual dialectic theory that includes
language as a whole. But the primary theme of McElwaine’s[4]
critique of Debordist situation is the difference between sexual identity and
society.

Abian[5] holds that we have to choose between subtextual
dialectic theory and textual appropriation. It could be said that if capitalist
nihilism holds, the works of Tarantino are an example of self-supporting
libertarianism.

The poststructural paradigm of reality states that consensus is created by
the masses, but only if sexuality is interchangeable with culture; if that is
not the case, the task of the artist is deconstruction. In a sense, the
absurdity, and eventually the rubicon, of neocapitalist feminism intrinsic to
Tarantino’s Four Rooms is also evident in Pulp Fiction.

Any number of theories concerning the poststructural paradigm of reality may
be revealed. It could be said that the main theme of the works of Tarantino is
a structural paradox.

Bataille promotes the use of capitalist nihilism to analyse and modify
sexual identity. Therefore, in Reservoir Dogs, Tarantino reiterates
Baudrillardist simulacra; in Pulp Fiction, however, he affirms
capitalist nihilism.
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