Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑May 25th, 2023, 11:24 pm
Cornfed wrote: ↑May 17th, 2023, 8:36 am
Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑May 17th, 2023, 12:21 am
Why don't Christians want to commit suicide and be with their God in heaven? If this world is controlled by Satan and evil elites why shouldn't we all just die and join God in eternal salvation?
There is a time and a place and God expects us to play out the hand we are dealt. If we don't we won't learn what we were supposed to learn.
I agree somewhat that the purpose of life is to grow and learn from experiences. Sometimes those experiences seem empty or pointless, but we grow from them anyway. I don't think gratuitous suffering caused by the imposition of this predatory financial system is necessarily conducive to growth and is just evil. Suffering can lead to growth, but isn't conducive.
MrMan wrote: ↑May 17th, 2023, 6:02 pm
Do you want to stand before God when the last thing you did in this life was murder yourself?
I would hope that an all loving God would have a modicum of compassion and understanding when it comes to those who stand before him under such a context. People often feel so unhappy and trapped that they see no other way out. Is it right they should be chastised for taking their own life if all their life consisted of was suffering?
Let's say you're in a position where you're about to face an impending death which you know is unavoidable and going to be really painful. Would it still be wrong to end things swiftly on your own terms? Suicide isn't named as a sin in the Bible. Not to my knowledge, anyway.
Murder is a sin. There may be cases where giving one'sife is bravery and sacrifice rather than self-murder--like jumping on the grenade or doing something else risky to oneself to save others.
I don't sit around worrying about my sins veing forgiven. I trust Christ, confess my sins, try to reconile with others, etc. I am concerned with God considering me to have been a good steward of my time, gifts, resources, abilities, etc. Committing suicide is a waste of time given--especially since you are talking about rationalizing it, not someone totally crazy doing it.
That guy who went to tge Andaman Islands several years back, in hindsight some might consider what he did suicidal. But that likely was not his intent, and it was for a noble cause. I heard of a missionary who said if the doctor gave him six months to live he wanted to parachute into Mecca with a sack of Bibles.
I read about some Christian virgins the jumped to their deaths to avoid the arena or circus or whatever in the Roman era. That sounds like suicides, but maybe they were risking there might be deep enough water under tge bridge over being defiled by a leopard trained to rape humans. Pagan Romans could be quite perverted.
