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I have taken peripatetic conceptions of reality as sancrosanct,and in a way couldn't think more broadly than it's claims.

the way they define 'parts'is problematic,for one take the number 1.it is metaphysically necessary,yet is composed of abstract parts,like being odd,being a number or quantifier ,and being single absolutely and one,and single in being 'one' numerically.

it also is dependant in one sense on others to be 'the number'one and have it's aforementioned distinct yet neccesary properties,yet it is necessary in all worlds,being a universal.

it cannot fail to exist,and it is not temporally caused ,it is also not totally dependant on another,since in a certain aspect,it is necessary that one exists,even though in another aspect,it cannot be one with 2 .

the broad nature of necessariness,and it not being incompatible with dependance on one sense,means mutliple divine beings can exist,and that even a singular divine beig is still in a certain sense abstractly relationally dependant on others even if not concretelty actualized to be one,in the sense that it is identical ina sense to being singular in number abstractly,yet it cannot be singular in number without the aspect of multiplicity abstractly.

so the argument for divine simplicity and uniqueness is false,and flawed,because even a numerically one being is metaphysically dependant on two parts as defined hy the peripatetics,the nature of uniqueness in concrete reality,and it's nature of being dependant abstractly on other numbers,to be unique in the first place.


the rest I wanted to say that while the truth is not certain to a human being,I definately think my degraded and toxic previous mental state,worldiness,and ultimatelty nihilism and hopelessness is the result of rejecting God and opening myself up to demonic direction,auggestion and command,even if it was so subtle to be impercievable by me previously.

I am also certain that my 'ocd'is caused by demonic entities,and that I am likely possesed.

pray for me brothers.

what God showed me in this ordeal,is that me thinking that being free from God would make me happy,being free from his standard would unburden me that in fact it just provided a emptiness in the way the world is seen,and that that reason alone was the reason I subconsciously rejected him.

not out of greed,but my own burden in keeping his command and standard,not trusting in his sovereign power to keep me on his standard through his direct grace,and in times of failure allowing me to repent,and also having power to keep my death at bay,until I repent through the infusion of his grace from mty own inner fleshly sin and nature.

it was a lack of trust in God's love and assurance,and good will.

and this I have had in every relation to others,since being physically abused by those I trusted to take care of me and be a safe haven for me,so that I could never trust others and this affected my relationship with God.

I am learning,but I hope to find the answers,and be able to be guided by God in the right answers,because as this ordeal shows,the mind of man is foolish yet thinketh itself wise,and only God can deliver true wisdom and insight.

keep me in your prayers,and ask for my deliverance from the enemy.

and my sincere apologies.

humans need order and structure from a more perfect being to be made whole and have a purpose.

God really showed me that being linbertine or having license in one's heart to do anything,is not beneficial or healthy for the psyche and spirit.

@MrMan

@Outcast9428

I have taken peripatetic conceptions of reality as sancrosanct,and in a way couldn't think more broadly than it's claims.

the way they define 'parts'is problematic,for one take the number 1.it is metaphysically necessary,yet is composed of abstract parts,like being odd,being a number or quantifier ,and being single absolutely and one,and single in being 'one' numerically.

it also is dependant in one sense on others to be 'the number'one and have it's aforementioned distinct yet neccesary properties,yet it is necessary in all worlds,being a universal.

it cannot fail to exist,and it is not temporally caused ,it is also not totally dependant on another,since in a certain aspect,it is necessary that one exists,even though in another aspect,it cannot be one with 2 .

the broad nature of necessariness,and it not being incompatible with dependance on one sense,means mutliple divine beings can exist,and that even a singular divine beig is still in a certain sense abstractly relationally dependant on others even if not concretelty actualized to be one,in the sense that it is identical ina sense to being singular in number abstractly,yet it cannot be singular in number without the aspect of multiplicity abstractly.

so the argument for divine simplicity and uniqueness is false,and flawed,because even a numerically one being is metaphysically dependant on two parts as defined hy the peripatetics,the nature of uniqueness in concrete reality,and it's nature of being dependant abstractly on other numbers,to be unique in the first place.


the rest I wanted to say that while the truth is not certain to a human being,I definately think my degraded and toxic previous mental state,worldiness,and ultimatelty nihilism and hopelessness is the result of rejecting God and opening myself up to demonic direction,auggestion and command,even if it was so subtle to be impercievable by me previously.

I am also certain that my 'ocd'is caused by demonic entities,and that I am likely possesed.

pray for me brothers.

what God showed me in this ordeal,is that me thinking that being free from God would make me happy,being free from his standard would unburden me that in fact it just provided a emptiness in the way the world is seen,and that that reason alone was the reason I subconsciously rejected him.

not out of greed,but my own burden in keeping his command and standard,not trusting in his sovereign power to keep me on his standard through his direct grace,and in times of failure allowing me to repent,and also having power to keep my death at bay,until I repent through the infusion of his grace from mty own inner fleshly sin and nature.

it was a lack of trust in God's love and assurance,and good will.

and this I have had in every relation to others,since being physically abused by those I trusted to take care of me and be a safe haven for me,so that I could never trust others and this affected my relationship with God.

I am learning,but I hope to find the answers,and be able to be guided by God in the right answers,because as this ordeal shows,the mind of man is foolish yet thinketh itself wise,and only God can deliver true wisdom and insight.

keep me in your prayers,and ask for my deliverance from the enemy.

and my sincere apologies.

humans need order and structure from a more perfect being to be made whole and have a purpose.

God really showed me that being linbertine or having license in one's heart to do anything,is not beneficial or healthy for the psyche and spirit.

it started simply with wanting sex at the time,then in using pheromones (prohibited in my church)to have women adore me in a way that would boost my pride,then seeing results in such with subliminals through demons and wanting to be able to use such sorcery ,satan basically worked gradually until I started to hate God.

life is difficult being God fearing but God protects,provides for and comforts those that obey and love him.

it took rock bottom to get me to mature,and accept the grace God provided all this time.

God is more powerful than the spirits of wickedness,and thwarts satan's plan.

Apology accepted @Kalinago , welcome back buddy.

No worries Kalinago, welcome back. God loves you man.

take the number 2,which is metaphysically neccesary yet composed.it is even,which is distinct from it being less than 3,which is distinct from it being higher than one in a general sense,it is prime etc yet is always existant and cannot fail to exist in any world.

Kalinago wrote: ↑

March 15th, 2023, 7:05 pm

I have taken peripatetic conceptions of reality as sancrosanct,and in a way couldn't think more broadly than it's claims.

the way they define 'parts'is problematic,for one take the number 1.it is metaphysically necessary,yet is composed of abstract parts,like being odd,being a number or quantifier ,and being single absolutely and one,and single in being 'one' numerically.

it also is dependant in one sense on others to be 'the number'one and have it's aforementioned distinct yet neccesary properties,yet it is necessary in all worlds,being a universal.

it cannot fail to exist,and it is not temporally caused ,it is also not totally dependant on another,since in a certain aspect,it is necessary that one exists,even though in another aspect,it cannot be one with 2 .

the broad nature of necessariness,and it not being incompatible with dependance on one sense,means mutliple divine beings can exist,and that even a singular divine beig is still in a certain sense abstractly relationally dependant on others even if not concretelty actualized to be one,in the sense that it is identical ina sense to being singular in number abstractly,yet it cannot be singular in number without the aspect of multiplicity abstractly.

so the argument for divine simplicity and uniqueness is false,and flawed,because even a numerically one being is metaphysically dependant on two parts as defined hy the peripatetics,the nature of uniqueness in concrete reality,and it's nature of being dependant abstractly on other numbers,to be unique in the first place.


the rest I wanted to say that while the truth is not certain to a human being,I definately think my degraded and toxic previous mental state,worldiness,and ultimatelty nihilism and hopelessness is the result of rejecting God and opening myself up to demonic direction,auggestion and command,even if it was so subtle to be impercievable by me previously.

I am also certain that my 'ocd'is caused by demonic entities,and that I am likely possesed.

pray for me brothers.

what God showed me in this ordeal,is that me thinking that being free from God would make me happy,being free from his standard would unburden me that in fact it just provided a emptiness in the way the world is seen,and that that reason alone was the reason I subconsciously rejected him.

not out of greed,but my own burden in keeping his command and standard,not trusting in his sovereign power to keep me on his standard through his direct grace,and in times of failure allowing me to repent,and also having power to keep my death at bay,until I repent through the infusion of his grace from mty own inner fleshly sin and nature.

it was a lack of trust in God's love and assurance,and good will.

and this I have had in every relation to others,since being physically abused by those I trusted to take care of me and be a safe haven for me,so that I could never trust others and this affected my relationship with God.

I am learning,but I hope to find the answers,and be able to be guided by God in the right answers,because as this ordeal shows,the mind of man is foolish yet thinketh itself wise,and only God can deliver true wisdom and insight.

keep me in your prayers,and ask for my deliverance from the enemy.

and my sincere apologies.

I appreciate the post, and I accept your apology. God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. I will pray that God will give you grace. Receiving salvation through faith in Christ is a humbling thing. We realize that our own works or virtue does not make us right in God's site. Repent, put your faith in Christ Jesus, who died for your sins, whom God raised from the dead. Salvation from God's wrath comes through His name. Reconciliation to God comes through His name. Be baptized and become a disciple of His teachings. If you sin, confess them, and stay in fellowship in brethren in the faith.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. You should seek for wisdom of God through the Word of God revealed through the word of God.

Btw, I am not convinced that what you said about the numbers one or two leads logically to the idea that other divine beings can exist.