Thoughts on the murder of Trayvon Martin

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Thoughts on the murder of Trayvon Martin

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http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-kil ... -news.html

Trayvon Martin Killing: 911 Tape Reveals Possible Racial Slur by Neighborhood Watchman
The Florida police department handling the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a self-appointed neighborhood watch leader admitted to ABC News tonight that investigators missed a possible racist remark by the shooter as he spoke to police dispatchers moments before the killing.

The admission comes a day after the Justice Department announced that it has launched an investigation of the slaying of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman last month as a possible hate crime.

On a tape of one of Zimmerman's 911 calls the night of the shooting, he is heard saying under his breath what sounds like "f**ing coons." Seconds later he confronted Martin and after a brief scuffle shot him dead.

Zimmerman claimed self defense, and was not charged with any crime.

It's the latest in a series of possible police missteps uncovered by ABC News.

The Sanford Police Department has come under withering criticism for failing to reach out to Martin's girlfriend, who was talking to the teen on his cell phone and heard the altercation with Zimmerman take place.

Among other issues, police have been criticized for:

Withholding a batch of telling 911 calls, including the one revealing Zimmerman's possible racist remark.

Sending a narcotics detective to the scene, instead of a homicide detective, as is typical for homicides.

And failing to administer a drug and alcohol test to Zimmerman that night, which homicide investigator Rod Wheeler called a "fatal flaw in the investigation."

"The fact that Mr. Zimmerman was not given a toxicology test or breathalyzer examination is huge. Very huge," Wheeler said. He also wondered why Zimmerman's vehicle was not investigated or impounded.

The Sanford Police Department says it stands by its investigation, and that it was not race or incompetence that prevented it from arresting Zimmerman but the law.

Martin had left his father's fiance's home to buy a pack of skittles at a convenience store. On the way back he called his 16-year-old girlfriend. She was on the phone with him as he told her about a man following him.

"He said this man was watching him," the girl recounted. "So he put his hoodie on, said he lost the man. I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast, I told him to run but he said was not going to run."

But the man would catch up to Trayvon, she recalled.

"Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for?' and the man said, 'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing and somebody push Trayvon, because the headset just fell," she said. "I called him again and he didn't answer the phone."




Such a sad case of another person having an irrational fear of Blacks. George Zimmerman sounds like your typical scared White (he's Latino White) person. It seemed like he has a history of calling Blacks in his neighborhood to the police. And how is this guy still free and walking the streets. How would the situation turn out if the shooter happened to be Black and the victim White? The police would never have let the Black person out of his or her jail cell--even for a minute. I wonder how the Black posters on HA feel about this case and the racial implications of the death of another black youth.


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"Neighborhood watchman", pretty much sums everything up without having to read the story, right?
Who participates in neighborhood watches?
-control freaks
-grumpy old men
-people with the Cobra "crime is a disease and i'm the cure" poster in their room

that's probably 90% of them.

The only way to curb crime is if everyone in the community is determined to eradicate the bad elements. If they're corrupted themselves they can't take a moral stance against it. It's futile trying to be Dirty Harry while living among scum. Just move. Untrained civilians trying to be cops is a bad idea especially in the US with its legal system. So many problems in this world would be solved if people just got up and moved. But for whatever reason they won't. I think a lot of people have something like battered-wife syndrome.
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odbo wrote:So many problems in this world would be solved if people just got up and moved. But for whatever reason they won't. I think a lot of people have something like battered-wife syndrome.
So what is it that keeps YOU from moving (abroad)? Just curious.
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the short answer? procrastination.
but i have the feeling i'm not done understanding why i hate this place.
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ManInSiam wrote:Theres a lot more coming out about what happened that night. Seems this Trayvon Martin might not have been so innocent as we were led to believe, not surprising considering the liberal media. I wouldn't rush to judgment just yet.
Yes, it looks like Zimmerman was attacked by Trayvon and ended up shooting him in self defense according to some reports. Of course, groups like the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam are using the event to stir up racial tension and threatening to start a race war--if justice is not met. I fear what will happen to the country if the jury decides Zimmerman is not guilty of any crime. Then, prepare for the LA riots part II--except much bigger this time around....
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America is a country where the evil doers get all the sympathy and the innocent are marked for extinction. Zimmerman was attacked by this thug who punched him in the face and started hitting his head against the concrete. If he didn't have the right to self defense, then self-defense has no meaning. America is a country of whiners, crybabies and worthless eaters. It doesn't surprise me in the least that this little thug is treated like a martyr. The media intentionally shows pictures of him as a prepubescent boy when he was actually a strong man who could take down someone bigger than him. And Zimmerman is portrayed as white when he is actually Hispanic. The media freely lies and distorts to intentionally whip up this case in order to further persecute innocent people who are trying to protect their property and lives from the enveloping evil that is America. Maybe they want a race war to cover up their financial crimes.
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Saying Trayvon was a "strong man" is a big stretch. He was 17 and 140 lbs 6'3". That's really tall and really really skinny.

Plus if some fat guy charged at me at night and started acting all hostile i'd probably fight him too.

One person was armed the other wasn't. The neighborhood watch guy should have backed off and called the cops instead of trying to go all commando on him.
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What's the big stretch? He punched a bigger man in the face and took him down and started beating him. If those are the facts, then he was a strong man. He was a violent thug. Zimmerman used a gun in its best sense - to protect an innocent person in self defense. As for waiting for the cops - pure bunk. The US courts have repeatedly ruled that the police have no legal obligation to protect the public.
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im sick of this being portrayed as white on black crime. zimmerman is latino and his genetic line goes back to black peruvian.
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I'm tired of the white vs black thing, too. Show me ONE picture of Zimmerman where it isn't blatantly obvious that he is Latino.

Anyway, I think Trayvon Martin was innocent. I believe that George Zimmerman is a cold-blooded murderer who genuinely wanted to go out and kill himself a "coon" that night (all evident in the call between him and the police dispatcher). This was an obvious hate crime, and this revealed the Hispanic-American community's hidden "we hate black men" agenda, which before this incident was unknown to the public eye.

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All_That_Is_Man wrote:I believe that George Zimmerman is a cold-blooded murderer who genuinely wanted to go out and kill himself a "coon" that night (all evident in the call between him and the police dispatcher).
It seems strange that he called the pigs in the first place if he intended to commit murder. Murderers don't usually call the pigs on themselves before committing the crime. He also took a big risk allowing himself to be beaten up before using his weapon. Unless Zimmerman's version of the beginning of the encounter can be falsified in some way it seems like an open and shut case of self defense. Ordinary people are not generally allowed to defend themselves from the ZOG's pets though. This is because the rich seek to deflect any resentment their pets may feel from themselves by allowing the pets to commit horrific crimes against the dwindling middle class. The rich don't have to suffer the consequences of this policy since they have adequate security to keep blacks and latinos well away from them other than the tame ones waiting on them hand and foot. Zimmerman's crime was not playing along and passively absorbing the chimp-out like a good boy.
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Real simple Zimmerman has a record for beating a woman and attacking a police officer. How come he never lost his permit? Google it. His past reveals he is a violent unstable person. To all that called Trayvon a thug jump over a bridge.
You were not there the 911 call was. He was ordered to stand down and he refused.
The police were correct in arresting him. If he walks I hope vigilante justice prevails!
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This case was a false flag that's purpose was to stroke racial tensions( much like the Rodney King beatings, OJ Trial, Troy Davis, etc.), and prepare for the coming police state.

Since America is adept at euphemistic racial behaviors, this was easy to accomplish.
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If I interpreted all of the sources right, I think that GZ was in the wrong. No one deserves to lose their life because someone hates what another person represents. They can be of African descent, Caucasian/European descent, Hispanic, Muslim, Asian descent, Christian, and other categories. In my opinion, if one has blind hatred, one will eventually say and/or do something offensive. My advice is to realize that we are all different and hate WILL cause one to make a mistake.
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