Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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Adama
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Re: Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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Take a look at Obama. First "black" president, who is really half white, not raised by blacks but by his white grand parents. If he had had black parents, the man never would have become president.

Same with those Egyptians. Blacks claim them, but Egyptians mostly do not claim to be black. They claim their own distinct ethnicity. From the skull morphology, since we are all about evolution and science here, scientists consider Egyptians to be a Caucasian race.

Besides that, science also tells us that civilization started in Mesopotamia, in what is now called Iraq, which is not located in Africa.

That's right up there with the black religious in the USA who consider themselves to be the true Israelites.
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Re: Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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There's probably more evidence to back up my assertions than there is that blacks were the first humans or that black people started civilization.
There's plenty of literature out there concerning the first human and where civilization really started. From the ignorant ooze that you expel so impressively, I take it you don't have a primary school education? Here, let me help you out :o
But yeah, I think some of you guys have dissociated from reality into some racialist superiority dream. Why would a black nationalist (or a white nationalist) post on forums where the majority do not care about their nationalism or directly oppose it? Is life all about the superiority of the black man (or the white man)?
When did I say anything about black superiority? You're the one hung up on race not me. There is no scientific definition of race... you don't get different races of cows. Modern people are differing mixtures of multiple separate SPECIES of archaic humans. In other words, humans are all mongrels. Different traits vary more or less independently instead of clustering. Race is a social construct and is shown by how, up to about a century ago, everyone in the United States and Britain who wrote about "race" assumed that the Irish were clearly a separate and inferior "race," as distinct from the obviously superior English. Today everyone who deals with "race" assumes that Irish and English are the same "race." Seriously, some breeds of dogs have been around longer than white people. It's generally accepted that European settlers (who were no longer exposed to such intense UV rays as were their ancient African ancestors) had no need to continue "wasting" energy on such large amounts of melanin. So, through natural genetic mutation and time, Europeans lost their ability to produce large amounts of melanin - those producing less melanin had more energy available for finding food and staying warm.

However, new research is showing that Europeans are white because a few interbred with Neanderthals based in Northern Europe pushed south towards the middle east by the last ice age. Europeans have 2-5% uniquely Neanderthal DNA. Red hair, Green eyes, all came from Neanderthals as did 0 negative blood. Neanderthals were different species at the limit of biological compatibility with modern humans from Africa. From analysis of surviving neanderthal DNA in humans which is completely lacking large areas of the neanderthal DNA, it has been suggested that humans and neanderthals were able to produce offspring, but that the male hybrids were infertile and female hybrids had very low fertility. This is exactly the same as we see in hybrids between species like lions and tigers or horses and donkeys. It would also explain the very low percentage of neanderthal genomes in humans and why it is unevenly spread. But that does mean white people are sub-human. EVERY HUMAN is 0.1% or less different from EVERY HUMAN in ANY population. The genes that account for racial differences (skin, hair, eye color, etc.) number only a few. That's less than a dozen out of the thousands of genes that can vary between one human and the next. That means that, while two people can both have the same color of skin, hair, and eyes, and look very similar, that similarity is only superficial. They may actually be more genetically different from each other than they are from a person of a different race. This is especially true in Africa, where human populations sport a much higher genetic diversity than anywhere else in the world. This means, for example, an Italian and an Eskimo can be more genetically similar than two people in Africa living only a few hundred miles away. And, for example, a person from the Bantu ethnic group is actually more closely related to and more genetically similar to Eurasians than to someone from the Khoisan or Hadza ethnic groups, even though the Bantu, Khoisan, and Hadzabe are all sub-Saharan Africans. The lack of Neanderthal genes in African populations don't make enough of a difference to change any of this.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... n-dna.html
What kind of black man takes a story about apes and thinks it is really about blacks? Do you think blacks and apes are interchangable? Or do you just accept it when it is told in a fantastic, sci-fi story? I havent seen any anger about blacks being played by apes. It just seems like an accepted fact to the black racialists themselves, which makes no sense to me.
Planet of the Apes is a story about HUMANS. Geez, you must have bit more Neanderthal DNA than I thought...
You ever see the artists concept of the proto-humans with their dark skin and african hair? They make the proto-humans black, and everyone just accepts that as cool, when really it should be seen as demeaning.
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Re: Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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Adama wrote:Take a look at Obama. First "black" president, who is really half white, not raised by blacks but by his white grand parents. If he had had black parents, the man never would have become president.
Why not? :lol: Humans are the mammalian equivalent of social ants, only instead of social nest building, we have a social intelligence and build social knowledgebases through the ability to learn from and teach others. Like ants we aren't very impressive on our own, but working together, what our collective intelligence can do is astounding. What has made our visible achievements increase exponentially over the years is population growth. In order to build more complicated and involved knowledge and technology, it is necessary for different people in our collective brain to specialise - it is unlikely that Newton or Einstein would have been able to make their contributions to scientific knowledge if they were required to be hunter gathers fending for themselves, rather than being able to specialize as scientists. If they lived in a village with a population of 150, then it is unlikely that it would be able to support scientists, whereas a country with a population of 60 million could support that degree of specialization.
Same with those Egyptians. Blacks claim them, but Egyptians mostly do not claim to be black. They claim their own distinct ethnicity. From the skull morphology, since we are all about evolution and science here, scientists consider Egyptians to be a Caucasian race.
it's cool you still remember popular culture from 30 years ago. However, lets get back to reality? Egyptians are not a Caucasian race BECAUSE race is a social construct. If you had a kid with a mexican lady, would that kid be a new race? No, ALL archaic humans are the same species. Just different variations, and as we were able to breed with them we are the same species too.
Besides that, science also tells us that civilization started in Mesopotamia, in what is now called Iraq, which is not located in Africa.
What science is that? You mean Christianity? lol

http://mostextreme.org/oldest_civilization.php

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0 ... ears-or-so
That's right up there with the black religious in the USA who consider themselves to be the true Israelites.
What's an Israelite? Sounds like some stupid shit from prehistoric people :lol:
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Re: Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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BlackKnight wrote:
Adama wrote:Take a look at Obama. First "black" president, who is really half white, not raised by blacks but by his white grand parents. If he had had black parents, the man never would have become president.
Why not? :lol: Humans are the mammalian equivalent of social ants, only instead of social nest building, we have a social intelligence and build social knowledgebases through the ability to learn from and teach others. Like ants we aren't very impressive on our own, but working together, what our collective intelligence can do is astounding. What has made our visible achievements increase exponentially over the years is population growth. In order to build more complicated and involved knowledge and technology, it is necessary for different people in our collective brain to specialise - it is unlikely that Newton or Einstein would have been able to make their contributions to scientific knowledge if they were required to be hunter gathers fending for themselves, rather than being able to specialize as scientists. If they lived in a village with a population of 150, then it is unlikely that it would be able to support scientists, whereas a country with a population of 60 million could support that degree of specialization.
Same with those Egyptians. Blacks claim them, but Egyptians mostly do not claim to be black. They claim their own distinct ethnicity. From the skull morphology, since we are all about evolution and science here, scientists consider Egyptians to be a Caucasian race.
it's cool you still remember popular culture from 30 years ago. However, lets get back to reality? Egyptians are not a Caucasian race BECAUSE race is a social construct. If you had a kid with a mexican lady, would that kid be a new race? No, ALL archaic humans are the same species. Just different variations, and as we were able to breed with them we are the same species too.
Besides that, science also tells us that civilization started in Mesopotamia, in what is now called Iraq, which is not located in Africa.
What science is that? You mean Christianity? lol

http://mostextreme.org/oldest_civilization.php

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0 ... ears-or-so
That's right up there with the black religious in the USA who consider themselves to be the true Israelites.
What's an Israelite? Sounds like some stupid shit from prehistoric people :lol:
I agree that race is sort of a construct. Let's accept that for a moment. If true, then you have no claim to fame. You shouldnt have even made this thread, because there would be no need to. Race is a social construct.
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Re: Is the novel "Planet of the Apes" a history book?

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Adama wrote:
BlackKnight wrote:
Adama wrote:Take a look at Obama. First "black" president, who is really half white, not raised by blacks but by his white grand parents. If he had had black parents, the man never would have become president.
Why not? :lol: Humans are the mammalian equivalent of social ants, only instead of social nest building, we have a social intelligence and build social knowledgebases through the ability to learn from and teach others. Like ants we aren't very impressive on our own, but working together, what our collective intelligence can do is astounding. What has made our visible achievements increase exponentially over the years is population growth. In order to build more complicated and involved knowledge and technology, it is necessary for different people in our collective brain to specialise - it is unlikely that Newton or Einstein would have been able to make their contributions to scientific knowledge if they were required to be hunter gathers fending for themselves, rather than being able to specialize as scientists. If they lived in a village with a population of 150, then it is unlikely that it would be able to support scientists, whereas a country with a population of 60 million could support that degree of specialization.
Same with those Egyptians. Blacks claim them, but Egyptians mostly do not claim to be black. They claim their own distinct ethnicity. From the skull morphology, since we are all about evolution and science here, scientists consider Egyptians to be a Caucasian race.
it's cool you still remember popular culture from 30 years ago. However, lets get back to reality? Egyptians are not a Caucasian race BECAUSE race is a social construct. If you had a kid with a mexican lady, would that kid be a new race? No, ALL archaic humans are the same species. Just different variations, and as we were able to breed with them we are the same species too.
Besides that, science also tells us that civilization started in Mesopotamia, in what is now called Iraq, which is not located in Africa.
What science is that? You mean Christianity? lol

http://mostextreme.org/oldest_civilization.php

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0 ... ears-or-so
That's right up there with the black religious in the USA who consider themselves to be the true Israelites.
What's an Israelite? Sounds like some stupid shit from prehistoric people :lol:
I agree that race is sort of a construct. Let's accept that for a moment. If true, then you have no claim to fame. You shouldnt have even made this thread, because there would be no need to. Race is a social construct.

According to nature it is, when a human does the nasty no matter what group mixes it up together the result is a child so nature says I go that way.
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