Are Jews a race or not? It depends on where and to who.

[ladislav]

Many people say that Jews are not a race. But it really depends on where and to who they are not a race.

But let's suppose Jews are not a race because there are blonde Jews and black Jews. Fair enough.

You can say the same thing about the Arabs.

They are also not a race then. With their ( some) blonde people in Lebanon, blacks in Somalia and Sudan, red heads in Syria, etc.

However, these non-Arab looking people are on the fringes.

Most Arabs look Semitic and most Jews look Eastern Mediterranean. Yes a black person here, a blond there. Sometimes, and in small %%.

Let's compare to other groups further.

I can say, for example, that Latinos are not a race. You have blonde N. Spaniards and black people in the Dominican republic. Does that mean they are not a race? It depends where and to who.

In their countries, they are not. But in others, they are.

Groups of humans become races when they are in an environment populated by people who are visibly of another stock, and where they stick out and can be labeled and identified by those who now surround them.

When Latinos ( not a race) appear in a small town in Georgia, they stand out like a sore thumb. And the locals label them as Latinos.

Similarly, when a bunch of Arabs appear in Germany, they don't look German, they look " Arab". The locals look at them and say, "Oh, look, here come some Arabs!"

And when Jews appear in Poland and Russia, they look Semitic/Eastern/ Mediterranean to the Slavs. And the Slavs look at them and label them. ' Oh, look, there come a bunch of Hebrews".

To illustrate, get an image of Menachem Begin or Albert Einstein. Now get images of a Polish man or Russian man. Compare. They look like the Jews and the Slavs belong to two different races. At least in Slavic countries.

So, to Slavs and Germanics, Jews are a race.

And to Germans, Arabs and Turks are races. And to a White Anglo Saxons, Latinos are a race. They can identify and label them based on the looks. And racism and persecutions are based on that, not on exceptions to the rule.

Are Mexicans a race? You can say they are not. Show some blonde Mexicans and some black ones. They do exist.

But some years ago, in Texas, some lone gunman went into a Walmart and started mowing down Mexicans killing 27 people. How did he know they were Mexicans if Mexican are not a race? Probably because they looked it? But Mexicans are not a race, no? Well, to him, they were because in majority, they look different from the N. European majority of Texas.

See what I mean? Same with the Jews.

Jews are a race when they are among people who in their majority don't look like them.

So, Jews are not a race to Arabs, Iranians, Turks or Greeks. Also, they are " white" in US cities.

Jews are a race to Germans and Slavs. And many Anglo Saxons in the US hinterlands.

Thus, it depends on where they are and who is labeling them.

[MarcosZeitola]

Not a race, but maybe, an ethnic group? Some of them look quite distinct. There's something in the face of even a very blonde, blue-eyed Jew like Tori Spelling, for example, that's decidedly not Caucasian. Like, she looks like an entirely different species, with a white people's wig on. Like a 'wolf in sheep's clothing', so to speak. I can tell a Jew, when I see one. Sniff them out, so to speak. No I don't hate them. But I can sense their presence.



There's a man I know. Looks like an Arab. Speaks with a very affected, posh accent however. I can tell that man is a Jew. I could tell it the moment I met him, and talked to him. There's just... something, about them. A dinstinct flavor. A scent. A feeling.

I'm not of the opinion that Jews are evil. In fact some of them I consider friends. On this forum, @Davewe was a great poster, perhaps our greatest poster and he maintains a lovely blog. Online, it's hard to detect a Jew. In person, it's hard not to detect a Jew.

But yes... they're a dinstinct group of people. Sneaky. Clever. Cunning. Often incredibly talented, and driven. Sometimes depraved. I find them endlessly fascinating. And I disagree with Borat... I don't think we should throw them 'down the well'. I think, we should study them. Hell, if ever one of my children marries a Jew or Jewess, I know my grandchildren will be well-off almost by default. Which is a thought that relaxes me.

[ladislav]

Jews are seen as a separate nation by many Europeans.
The lady above looks E. Mediterranean, like the people in Lebanon. She dyed her hair blonde, though. If she were in Poland, she'd stick out with her dark hair and be identified as a Jewess on sight. But an average American will just dismiss her as " Caucasian".
Most Jews look like people in Lebanon or Jordan. A bit more light-skinned. Borat and also Starsky, Adam Sandler and Ben Schwimmer is what proper Jews look like.
Those Jewish race deniers like to throw in blonde Jews and Ethiopian Jews in there but these are fringe people. I can also find blonde Italians and Greeks and then claim that one cannot tell an Italian from a Swede. Exceptions are not the rule.
And yes, I can also tell by mannerism and the " scent". But most modern Americans cannot. Some, older ones can.
In the South, there were traditionally three races: the Whites, the Blacks and the Jews.

[ladislav]

Anti-Semites claim the following in their hatred of Jews:

They allege that Jews control banks and world economy. Thus, they feel that all the economic troubles come from the Jews who can lower wages, cause inflation, cause economic crises and collapse.

They say that Jews are parasites that move into a country, subvert its government and social structure and take it over turning it into a giant blood sucking machine thru high interest and other manipulation.

They claim that Jews destroy traditional families promoting immorality and homosexuality.

They portray Jews as mean, greedy, unfriendly, ugly and heartless people.

They say Jews look down on other races and religions and think these must be slaves to Jews.

They call Jews are a mongrel non-Christian race that hates White Christians and wants to destroy them. They kill Christian children and use their blood to make matzot.

They claim that Jews are bent on world domination and have a conspiracy and secret meetings where they plan out the step-by-step take over of the entire world.

They say that Jews want to dilute the Aryan race by flooding Aryan countries with Arabs, Africans, Turks, etc.

They say that it was Jews have created the porno industry and the whole Hollywood immoral, violent culture aimed at corrupting the pure Aryan society.

And since they believe it was the Jews who killed Jesus Christ, to them, there is no worse “creature” than a Jew. Who can be worse than the killer of God himself?

[Cornfed]

Anti-Semites claim the following in their hatred of Jews:

They allege that Jews control banks and world economy. Thus, they feel that all the economic troubles come from the Jews who can lower wages, cause inflation, cause economic crises and collapse.

They say that Jews are parasites that move into a country, subvert its government and social structure and take it over turning it into a giant blood sucking machine thru high interest and other manipulation.

They claim that Jews destroy traditional families promoting immorality and homosexuality.

They portray Jews as mean, greedy, unfriendly, ugly and heartless people.

They say Jews look down on other races and religions and think these must be slaves to Jews.

They call Jews are a mongrel non-Christian race that hates White Christians and wants to destroy them. They kill Christian children and use their blood to make matzot.

They claim that Jews are bent on world domination and have a conspiracy and secret meetings where they plan out the step-by-step take over of the entire world.

They say that Jews want to dilute the Aryan race by flooding Aryan countries with Arabs, Africans, Turks, etc.

They say that it was Jews have created the porno industry and the whole Hollywood immoral, violent culture aimed at corrupting the pure Aryan society.

And since they believe it was the Jews who killed Jesus Christ, to them, there is no worse “creature” than a Jew. Who can be worse than the killer of God himself?

If true, these people would be more right than wrong, no?

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Anti-Semites claim the following in their hatred of Jews:

They allege that Jews control banks and world economy. Thus, they feel that all the economic troubles come from the Jews who can lower wages, cause inflation, cause economic crises and collapse.

They say that Jews are parasites that move into a country, subvert its government and social structure and take it over turning it into a giant blood sucking machine thru high interest and other manipulation.

They claim that Jews destroy traditional families promoting immorality and homosexuality.

They portray Jews as mean, greedy, unfriendly, ugly and heartless people.

They say Jews look down on other races and religions and think these must be slaves to Jews.

They call Jews are a mongrel non-Christian race that hates White Christians and wants to destroy them. They kill Christian children and use their blood to make matzot.

They claim that Jews are bent on world domination and have a conspiracy and secret meetings where they plan out the step-by-step take over of the entire world.

They say that Jews want to dilute the Aryan race by flooding Aryan countries with Arabs, Africans, Turks, etc.

They say that it was Jews have created the porno industry and the whole Hollywood immoral, violent culture aimed at corrupting the pure Aryan society.

And since they believe it was the Jews who killed Jesus Christ, to them, there is no worse “creature” than a Jew. Who can be worse than the killer of God himself?

Why have Joos been kicked out of 109 countries in history?

[Moretorque]

I ran into Brother Nathanael years ago on the net, he has an interesting take on it and he claims to be Jewish through a long line but why would he turn Christian? He spells out why but in my book just more sheople control.

[Moretorque]

Anti-Semites claim the following in their hatred of Jews:

They allege that Jews control banks and world economy. Thus, they feel that all the economic troubles come from the Jews who can lower wages, cause inflation, cause economic crises and collapse.

They say that Jews are parasites that move into a country, subvert its government and social structure and take it over turning it into a giant blood sucking machine thru high interest and other manipulation.

They claim that Jews destroy traditional families promoting immorality and homosexuality.

They portray Jews as mean, greedy, unfriendly, ugly and heartless people.

They say Jews look down on other races and religions and think these must be slaves to Jews.

They call Jews are a mongrel non-Christian race that hates White Christians and wants to destroy them. They kill Christian children and use their blood to make matzot.

They claim that Jews are bent on world domination and have a conspiracy and secret meetings where they plan out the step-by-step take over of the entire world.

They say that Jews want to dilute the Aryan race by flooding Aryan countries with Arabs, Africans, Turks, etc.

They say that it was Jews have created the porno industry and the whole Hollywood immoral, violent culture aimed at corrupting the pure Aryan society.

And since they believe it was the Jews who killed Jesus Christ, to them, there is no worse “creature” than a Jew. Who can be worse than the killer of God himself?

Why have Joos been kicked out of 109 countries in history?

The answer mostly I would think is usury.

[fschmidt]

Anti-Semites claim the following in their hatred of Jews:

What does this have to do with the title of this thread? Anyway, "anti-semite" is a moronic term. One may be anti-jewish but one has to clarify whether that is based on race or religion.

And since they believe it was the Jews who killed Jesus Christ, to them, there is no worse “creature” than a Jew. Who can be worse than the killer of God himself?

Jesus was racially jewish so anyone who says this is criticizing jews based on religion.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

I think most people are against Jews due to their representation in industries that are perverse such as pornography, hollywood, banking, media etc. It looks like a lot of people are waking up to this also which shines a lot of certain segments of jews who engage in this areas. Of course, there are many regular jews who work as accountants, scientists, teachers, etc. who are not part of the "cabal" so to say which should be said.

The issue with banking is usury of course which isn't solely limited to jews but jews are prominent in banking and get much of the blame. Just look at the wonderful job the Federal Reserve Chairman and Treasury Secretaries have been doing. It is pretty clear why a lot of people are rightly pissed off.

[fschmidt]

I think most people are against Jews due to their representation in industries that are perverse such as pornography, hollywood, banking, media etc. It looks like a lot of people are waking up to this also which shines a lot of certain segments of jews who engage in this areas.

People are not waking up because they are too stupid to wake up. The key question is the one asked in the title of this thread. I think the reason that racism is rising is simply that modern morons are too stupid to understand religion or culture, so it is much easier for them to classify everything by race. But if one thinks in terms of race then one cannot see the core problem which is Judaism. Anyone who has actually studied the Talmud will understand how bad this problem is.

[Moretorque]

I think most people are against Jews due to their representation in industries that are perverse such as pornography, hollywood, banking, media etc. It looks like a lot of people are waking up to this also which shines a lot of certain segments of jews who engage in this areas.

People are not waking up because they are too stupid to wake up. The key question is the one asked in the title of this thread. I think the reason that racism is rising is simply that modern morons are too stupid to understand religion or culture, so it is much easier for them to classify everything by race. But if one thinks in terms of race then one cannot see the core problem which is Judaism. Anyone who has actually studied the Talmud will understand how bad this problem is.

The thing about this Frank is when you do what they have been doing as far as breeding goes you are creating a race in short order. What about the way Ashkenazi test for certain genetic disorders that are prevalent to them, they have been accussed of breeding the smart with the smart and it shows with by far the highest IQ but it appears you could pay prices in other areas for doing this.

[fschmidt]

The thing about this Frank is when you do what they have been doing as far as breeding goes you are creating a race in short order. What about the way Ashkenazi test for certain genetic disorders that are prevalent to them, they have been accussed of breeding the smart with the smart and it shows with by far the highest IQ but it appears you could pay prices in other areas for doing this.

Of course races differ. What I am saying is that the primary driver of jewish parasitic behavior is the Talmud. Racial differences affect mental and physical strengths and weaknesses, but do not determine a system of ethics. Ethics mostly comes from religion.

[Cornfed]

Of course races differ. What I am saying is that the primary driver of jewish parasitic behavior is the Talmud. Racial differences affect mental and physical strengths and weaknesses, but do not determine a system of ethics. Ethics mostly comes from religion.

Might the Jews not be an exception to this rule, given that they are exceptional in that they are a dispersed nation that has been living among other nations for thousands of years? If you had a species of ant that lived in the colonies of other ants or a species of bird that built their nests among colonies of other birds, is it not possible that they would be on a separate evolutionary track to the host population and evolve different behaviours that were perhaps not in the best interests of the host population?

[fschmidt]

Might the Jews not be an exception to this rule, given that they are exceptional in that they are a dispersed nation that has been living among other nations for thousands of years? If you had a species of and that lived in the colonies of other ants or a species of bird that built their nests among colonies of other birds, is it not possible that they would be on a senate evolutionary track to the host population and evolve different behaviours that were perhaps not in the best interests of the host population?

The correct word for one group living among another is symbiosis. Parasitism is just one type of symbiosis. Other types of symbiosis are beneficial for the host. So why did Jews choose parasitism instead of another type? Because parasitism is the only strategy that worked in medieval Europe. This parasitic behavior has been codified in the Talmud.

I think I would agree that Jews have evolved for symbiosis. Jews have a strong tribal instinct and stubbornness that prevents assimilation. But what genetic trait would explain preferring parasitism over positive symbiosis? I can't think of any. But the Talmud perfectly explains this preference. Furthermore those Jews that lose Talmudic guidance become liberals. These liberal Jews identify with the "liberal" tribe which is suicidal, not parasitic.