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"You just have to think positive" cliche.

Posted: August 6th, 2014, 8:01 am
by Temprano26
First off, I am seeing a pattern on this board of posters that are tired of being given automated lines being passed off as advice.

"You just lack confidence"
"You'll find someone when you are not looking"
"Just have a good attitude"
"It is what you make it"

Feel free to add more but my overall point is when people feed me these clichés, they imply that I am having a bad attitude towards life or that being depressed is my fault because I am a negative thinker. As if these people know what is in my head and how my thoughts affect my reality.

Every person who has said that to me thinks they are dispensing wisdom when really they just love the sound of their own condescending voices. It isn't helpful; it is actually quite insulting. I went through a depression for almost all of 2009 spending months at the gym working out a lot. I wasn't training for the Olympics. I was trying to feel better. I went out to public places trying to have a good attitude towards people only to witness their bad attitudes and their toxic personalities. I wanted to go out and have fun but others just want to sit there and sneer at people like jerks. Yeah, you should have a good attitude but if you are in a toxic social culture you are going to be very lonely. Positive thinking only goes so far and then there is observable reality. I went out thinking people were friendly and easy to connect with and they showed me how not true that is.

But as I never tire of stating, when I got to Costa Rica all of that changed. It was refreshing that people noticed that I existed. I no longer felt excluded by the friends/dating scene because my personality, attitude actually fit in with the friendly vibes of the people there. There is nothing lonelier than being surrounded by the wrong people in life. So it is not just positive thinking as it is you need to be around positive people. Unfortunately, people don't take the time to listen or understand and so they presume to know everything about me. I just want to tell people to spare me their automated BS.

Posted: August 6th, 2014, 9:01 am
by RickyRetardo
I know the feeling. These are all stock replies that ignore the actual particular situations of someone in favor of just giving them a vague piece of advice.

An overload of confidence and an extremely positive attitude can be bad, or even dangerous.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/janbruce/20 ... -business/

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/article3916929.ece

http://advancedlifeskills.com/blog/what ... onfidence/

Stock replies like this just show that you can't always rely on other people for moral support. This is a tough and unhelpful world and we have to rely on ourselves as much as possible. Don't get mad next time someone tells you your problem is not enough confidence. Either explain to them why you don't think that's the case (if this seems like an argument worth having--which it probably isn't) or thank them and go do something YOURSELF to fix the problems in your life.

Sadly the cult of optimism does not dispense much in the way of real-world advice or know-how.

Posted: August 6th, 2014, 3:06 pm
by innovatorsclub
Yep everyone is trapped deep in the matrix..I see no reason to try helping anyone other than those who deserve it

the other night a salsa meetup was charging $20 just for the chance to possibly meet someone..which wasn't going to happen for any of the guys
A few nights before that a tiny bar/club was charging $20 with two bouncers outside in San Francisco
I told the bouncer it's such a sausage fest around here.. I said you take out the female tourists and the bay area is the biggest sausage fest on the planet
Guys says " you don't have game"
I laughed and said I no longer beg for less feminine dates and I am a rock star in asia
He says because you pay for it and I say yea you just keep thinking that

last night sausage fest meetup
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s54/sh/2 ... 44ea408c21

ohh and i am on my way back to asia in 3 weeks

Posted: August 6th, 2014, 5:10 pm
by droid
Guys says " you don't have game"
I laughed and said I no longer beg for less feminine dates and I am a rock star in asia
He says because you pay for it and I say yea you just keep thinking that
Be glad they think like that, it's less competition. :P

Posted: August 6th, 2014, 5:52 pm
by J_master
I'm positive and optimistic when I travel to another country, like Germany or Hong Kong..