Why do most normies dislike Winston for no reason, even if he did nothing wrong?

[florida johny]

You seem like a good person to me and it is brave of you to set up this none PC web site showing the benefits of living in and visiting other countries. I wish I knew about this when I was 20. I have had kind of the same trouble in my life but not all the time. I never fit in and have few friends.
When I work for a company people do not like me initially and then about half or 3/4 do once I have been there about 6 months. At first people think I am weird. I think it is because I do not follow sports and read a lot of historical fiction and history and political books. I also listen to a wide variety of music from classical and jazz , to blues, rock and k pop and J pop. I have learned not to mention anything about these kinds of things at work. I do not like most movies or TV shows. I do not even tell anyone at work that I travel to foreign country's as they would be jealous, even though some make a much bigger salary than I do and drive an Audi or BMW.
I am fairly polite to everyone. I do not try to start arguments and I am civil to everyone at work. I just come in and focus on work without drama. When I was young I talked to much about subjects I learned or read about. I quit doing that a long time ago. Also in today's political climate you cannot respectfully disagree with anyone or they cancel you. For example on illegal immigration you either have to say build a wall or let everyone in without any limits or any screening. And let children cross the desert all by themselves. If you try to say have a process to let a certain amount of people in when appropriate and have infrastructure ready for the extra people and industries ready to hire people, then the average person in the USA will not talk to you again. You have to say build a wall or let an infinite amount of people in without any planning and let people die crossing the desert. They think It is cold to think things out in a logical way.
I do not care that much anymore and have accepted it. It is what it is.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

You seem like a good person to me and it is brave of you to set up this none PC web site showing the benefits of living in and visiting other countries. I wish I knew about this when I was 20. I have had kind of the same trouble in my life but not all the time. I never fit in and have few friends.
When I work for a company people do not like me initially and then about half or 3/4 do once I have been there about 6 months. At first people think I am weird. I think it is because I do not follow sports and read a lot of historical fiction and history and political books. I also listen to a wide variety of music from classical and jazz , to blues, rock and k pop and J pop. I have learned not to mention anything about these kinds of things at work. I do not like most movies or TV shows. I do not even tell anyone at work that I travel to foreign country's as they would be jealous, even though some make a much bigger salary than I do and drive an Audi or BMW.
I am fairly polite to everyone. I do not try to start arguments and I am civil to everyone at work. I just come in and focus on work without drama. When I was young I talked to much about subjects I learned or read about. I quit doing that a long time ago. Also in today's political climate you cannot respectfully disagree with anyone or they cancel you. For example on illegal immigration you either have to say build a wall or let everyone in without any limits or any screening. And let children cross the desert all by themselves. If you try to say have a process to let a certain amount of people in when appropriate and have infrastructure ready for the extra people and industries ready to hire people, then the average person in the USA will not talk to you again. You have to say build a wall or let an infinite amount of people in without any planning and let people die crossing the desert. They think It is cold to think things out in a logical way.
I do not care that much anymore and have accepted it. It is what it is.

Hi, Florida Johny.
I agree, the work culture in the U.S sucks and I also have to talk about politically correct claptraps or else they will cast me as some weirdo and get me fired. The American women are the worst, they get overly sensitive and they can end your career with a false rape accusation or spread bad rumor about you. "Some" American men and women over middle age are alright. Both are more down to earth compared to younger people. But you gotta watch out for most of them.

[florida johny]

Good point about women at work and good observation about middle aged people being less oversensitive about people having a different point of view.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

Good point about women at work and good observation about middle aged people being less oversensitive about people having a different point of view.

Thanks. I guess the middle aged people are more chill and down to Earth. Well most of them.. some of them can be evil lying A$$holes.
The main problem is the younger people aged 16-35 that has been indoctrinated with the latest woke, social justice warrior, Zionist Jew social engineering. Young American women absorb all that garbage like a sponge and learn how to hate men and get paranoid 24/7. I had to watch out for them. That's why most of my co-workers purposefully avoid interacting with females because they might get in hot water.

[publicduende]

Regarding Russians vs Filipinas, you could argue that MGTOW is better anyway. Why should one put up with girls? There is always some drama with other human beings, and you have to deal with crap that you do not care about for no good reason.

From that perspective, the Filipinas were even better. Winston goes to the bargirls and feels like he is special, and the girls do like him a bit because he has some qualities. Even if that is not true, what might matter is that he gets these feelings. In the end, life does not make sense anyway, and all of it is bullshit.

So, the bargirls satisfy his 'narcissistic' needs, and he can go on with his life without being a p***y addict again. Actually, I had this going on. I did the Angeles thing. When I got away from the PI, I feel like I don't have the romantic void because I did have some memories that distract me from my FOMO feeling. That is a huge thing.

Most of the time, we are like dogs running after cars, even if we kind of know it does not make much sense. Sometimes we have to 'burn through karma' and chase the car, and it becomes easier to say no the next time.

"Why should one put up with girls?" The answer is very simple: they are a source of sexual fulfilment! Some people can engage in the full MGTOW because, put simply, they don't have a big sex drive, or their sex drive can ba satisfied by casual encounters with escorts, or occasional one-night stands.

For some - I hazard, the majority - of us, trying to have a steady sex partner may be a life priority.

Consider how hard it is to make a young, hot Russian fall for you, if "you" is a middle-aged man who is not that rich (or not that generous), or not that handsome, or doesn't have a lot of time to invest in the dating game. Then consider is how easy is to get a young and relatively pretty Filipina fall for you, even just being yourself. The distance in terms of personal investment, physical and economical, is an abyss.

Of course seeing the Filipina or Filipinas fall for you is also balsam for the ego and can trigger all sort of narcissistic overshoots. A 50-something pot bellied American divorcee, who last had sex with a Bunny Ranch escort for $500, flies to Angeles and gets surrounded by giggly young-looking girls who will have a night of sex with him for the price of a restaurant dinner. Of course the guy is gonna feel like the f*cking king of the world!

Glad that you had the AC experience. I am sure you have some good memories to nurture during those lonely moment. If you care to know, you can easily find a better quality girl than those bargirls to commit to you, just by living in the Philippines for a few months, perhaps even weeks, and playing your cards right.

[galii]

Regarding Russians vs Filipinas, you could argue that MGTOW is better anyway. Why should one put up with girls? There is always some drama with other human beings, and you have to deal with crap that you do not care about for no good reason.

From that perspective, the Filipinas were even better. Winston goes to the bargirls and feels like he is special, and the girls do like him a bit because he has some qualities. Even if that is not true, what might matter is that he gets these feelings. In the end, life does not make sense anyway, and all of it is bullshit.

So, the bargirls satisfy his 'narcissistic' needs, and he can go on with his life without being a p***y addict again. Actually, I had this going on. I did the Angeles thing. When I got away from the PI, I feel like I don't have the romantic void because I did have some memories that distract me from my FOMO feeling. That is a huge thing.

Most of the time, we are like dogs running after cars, even if we kind of know it does not make much sense. Sometimes we have to 'burn through karma' and chase the car, and it becomes easier to say no the next time.

"Why should one put up with girls?" The answer is very simple: they are a source of sexual fulfilment! Some people can engage in the full MGTOW because, put simply, they don't have a big sex drive, or their sex drive can ba satisfied by casual encounters with escorts, or occasional one-night stands.

For some - I hazard, the majority - of us, trying to have a steady sex partner may be a life priority.

Consider how hard it is to make a young, hot Russian fall for you, if "you" is a middle-aged man who is not that rich (or not that generous), or not that handsome, or doesn't have a lot of time to invest in the dating game. Then consider is how easy is to get a young and relatively pretty Filipina fall for you, even just being yourself. The distance in terms of personal investment, physical and economical, is an abyss.

Of course seeing the Filipina or Filipinas fall for you is also balsam for the ego and can trigger all sort of narcissistic overshoots. A 50-something pot bellied American divorcee, who last had sex with a Bunny Ranch escort for $500, flies to Angeles and gets surrounded by giggly young-looking girls who will have a night of sex with him for the price of a restaurant dinner. Of course the guy is gonna feel like the f*cking king of the world!

Glad that you had the AC experience. I am sure you have some good memories to nurture during those lonely moment. If you care to know, you can easily find a better quality girl than those bargirls to commit to you, just by living in the Philippines for a few months, perhaps even weeks, and playing your cards right.

Having a steady sex partner does not have to be a life goal. That is the philosophical question. That is a very important and deep discussion. There are many reasons why one might think that one needs that. Often when you dig deeper it is about ego and fomo but not of real needs.

I lived in AC for 6 years. Because of covid I had to leave. When I was there I did not want to leave even when I thought I should. The place is addicting but lowers ones IQ. It is quite good that you are so functional living there. I could have easily find more quality girls but they were more work than the easy girls.

[Yohan]

Consider how hard it is to make a young, hot Russian fall for you, if "you" is a middle-aged man who is not that rich (or not that generous), or not that handsome, or doesn't have a lot of time to invest in the dating game. Then consider is how easy is to get a young and relatively pretty Filipina fall for you, even just being yourself....

True!
However you have to consider, that there are many Western men (especially those from USA, and even some with this forum) who are totally against interracial dating. Therefore Philippines and other Asian countries are out of question for them.

[galii]

Regarding why people make problems specially good looking girls:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UBWBNNTLSrw
Why 50 cent stays away from hotties

edit
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NU4kcJztSCI
autism is superpower

[publicduende]

True!
However you have to consider, that there are many Western men (especially those from USA, and even some with this forum) who are totally against interracial dating. Therefore Philippines and other Asian countries are out of question for them.

That is their loss. I am not shoving Filipinas, or Asians, down anybody's throat. I just believe one should accept race or ethnicity as one of the biggest "red herrings" when finding a suitable partner: something that stands out quickly and strongly, yet turns out of being of little or no relevance.

Personality, upbringing, education, life goals, kinkiness (LOL)...these are the real qualities of a good lifetime Partner. If someone thinks "the white race" is the only gatekeeper of these qualities and won't see beyond the colour of their own skin, olr the boundaries of their own country, man, they're missing out nig, HUGE!

[Yohan]

That is their loss. I am not shoving Filipinas, or Asians, down anybody's throat. I just believe one should accept race or ethnicity as one of the biggest "red herrings" when finding a suitable partner: something that stands out quickly and strongly, yet turns out of being of little or no relevance.

Personality, upbringing, education, life goals, kinkiness (LOL)...these are the real qualities of a good lifetime Partner. If someone thinks "the white race" is the only gatekeeper of these qualities and won't see beyond the colour of their own skin, olr the boundaries of their own country, man, they're missing out nig, HUGE!

Thank you for your comment, so I see I am not alone with my opinion.

As I always said, and not only with this forum, race (and also religion) means nothing to me.

My only requirement, (this is not negotiable as I am a straight man), is that my partner must be a straight woman, born as a woman - no way for me to share the same rooms with bi-sexuals, ladyboys, gays etc.

[Lucas88]

That is their loss. I am not shoving Filipinas, or Asians, down anybody's throat. I just believe one should accept race or ethnicity as one of the biggest "red herrings" when finding a suitable partner: something that stands out quickly and strongly, yet turns out of being of little or no relevance.

Personality, upbringing, education, life goals, kinkiness (LOL)...these are the real qualities of a good lifetime Partner. If someone thinks "the white race" is the only gatekeeper of these qualities and won't see beyond the colour of their own skin, olr the boundaries of their own country, man, they're missing out nig, HUGE!

I see ONLY beyond the boundaries of my own country and ethnicity.

I only date Latinas! Lol!

Latinas with exotic brown skin and big butts!

Latinas are the only race of women who I'm serious about pursuing. I might have a hook-up with, say, a Turkish girl, an ex-yu girl or a Thai girl out of curiosity, but Latinas are my absolute favorite and Hispanic culture is the only one with which I truly resonate.

I also wouldn't want to date any girl from a strange cult such as Adventists, Jovos, Protestants, Mormons, etc.

Libtards cry me a river!

[josephty2]

To @publicduende and @MarcosZeitola:

I think there is some misunderstanding here. You two seem to think that I chose to be a misfit and different from others when I was young. No way. No one wants to be a misfit. The universe doesn't give u a control box that says: Push button A to be normal and accepted. Push button B to be a misfit and outcast. If it did everyone would push button A. It's sort of forced upon you like a label or destiny or script, and others treat u in accord with the role you've been assigned. I definitely wanted to be liked and fit in but no one liked me or thought I was cool or wanted to be seen with me. I felt this negative hostile vibe toward me as of it was programmed and scripted. Definitely not a choice. How do u explain that?

Don't all indicators indicate that whatever God or AI runs this matrix is just an asshole or at best both good and bad, playing the role of God and Satan? Like a movie director controlling both the hero and villain?

Those two users you're replying to are INTPs
INTPs are naive...
Ignore their responses, until a year later, then reread their responses. I realize intps don't make sense first so nothing useful is from replying to them. Not to judge all intps, just that they're answering a different question.

To actually reply
You're right, you're not given a choice. Though you can choose other things, what to say, what to eat, etc.
You remind me of Josh peck, an actor who was raised mostly in California, like you. I googled him and he's a celebrity and I saw what clothes he wore.

Now I'll never see your high School yearbook(s) however they (Chad high school students) judged you on your photo especially if you have a freshman year photo.

It's true you did nothing wrong, however think of it this way. Much of history people didn't understand negative numbers and even 0, right? It reminds me of civilization 4

[Winston]

To @publicduende and @MarcosZeitola:

I think there is some misunderstanding here. You two seem to think that I chose to be a misfit and different from others when I was young. No way. No one wants to be a misfit. The universe doesn't give u a control box that says: Push button A to be normal and accepted. Push button B to be a misfit and outcast. If it did everyone would push button A. It's sort of forced upon you like a label or destiny or script, and others treat u in accord with the role you've been assigned. I definitely wanted to be liked and fit in but no one liked me or thought I was cool or wanted to be seen with me. I felt this negative hostile vibe toward me as of it was programmed and scripted. Definitely not a choice. How do u explain that?

Don't all indicators indicate that whatever God or AI runs this matrix is just an asshole or at best both good and bad, playing the role of God and Satan? Like a movie director controlling both the hero and villain?

You probably have a form of autism. I have once heard an autistic person describing his condition as "feeling as if I am on the wrong planet". Perhaps this is how you feel, too. Like some sort of space alien, hopelessly lost in the world of humans when you feel so little connection to so many of them. Kind of tragic, honestly. But there are coping mechanism one could learn to deal with this issue.

Well maybe. That's possible. But keep in mind that the existence of ET Wanderer Souls is possible too. Have you considered that? Why is it that every time something is outside of your box you refuse to consider it? There is a thread here about ET souls too and even a book about it by Scott Mandelker and the Law of One channeled material talks about it too. Why don't you consider it as a possibility?

Btw I forgot to mention something else to you and @publicduende. When I was in my teens and 20s I had normie beliefs. I was a liberal and voted Democrat. I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and believed he would change America. I did not become a freethinker until my mid to late 20s. Yet having normie beliefs and positions did not help my dating or social life. It was still incredibly difficult, like going against the flow. How do you explain that? This is significant because it proves that me having "weird beliefs" about conspiracies or the paranormal or metaphysics CANNOT be the root cause of my problems in not being accepted. Hence it should be ruled out. Do you see my point?

[Winston]

To @publicduende and @MarcosZeitola:

I think there is some misunderstanding here. You two seem to think that I chose to be a misfit and different from others when I was young. No way. No one wants to be a misfit. The universe doesn't give u a control box that says: Push button A to be normal and accepted. Push button B to be a misfit and outcast. If it did everyone would push button A. It's sort of forced upon you like a label or destiny or script, and others treat u in accord with the role you've been assigned. I definitely wanted to be liked and fit in but no one liked me or thought I was cool or wanted to be seen with me. I felt this negative hostile vibe toward me as of it was programmed and scripted. Definitely not a choice. How do u explain that?

Don't all indicators indicate that whatever God or AI runs this matrix is just an asshole or at best both good and bad, playing the role of God and Satan? Like a movie director controlling both the hero and villain?

@Winston

Why do you want to bang on the same old nail, time and again? You say you "definitely wanted to be liked". Who doesn't want to be liked? The question is not about having a desire, it's about understanding, or knowing, the steps you need to take to fulfil that desire. Not many have this understanding, and even fewer successfully take those steps.

Because PD. I just wanted to bring up some significant details that you missed and didn't take into account. As perfectionist, I feel like I need to correct that. And also because people like MZ and others tend to assume that I am a misfit and not socially accepted because I have weird beliefs and talk about weird topics. However, that cannot be, for the reasons I cited in my previous post. My goal is to find an answer that FITS ALL THE DATA. Isn't that what a real truth seeker does? False assumptions should be ruled out too right? Do you see my point? If people like MZ assume things based on erroneous assumptions, shouldn't they be corrected?

[Winston]

@Winston

Why do you want to bang on the same old nail, time and again? You say you "definitely wanted to be liked". Who doesn't want to be liked? The question is not about having a desire, it's about understanding, or knowing, the steps you need to take to fulfil that desire. Not many have this understanding, and even fewer successfully take those steps.

The biggest problem with @Winston is the fact that he has always been stubborn as hell. On this forum, he has gotten tons of solid advice from people who "been there, done that", and he dismisses it, debates it, gets aggressive, and he never changes course, never alters his behavior. He seems like a man who comes here primarily just to vent... he wants to "understand why he is perceived a certain way" but has no interest whatsoever in changing in any meaningful way in order to be perceived differently.

Talking to Winston about this is like beating a dead horse. Only in this case, astonishingly enough, the dead horse keeps crawling back for another beating because it's a glutton for punishment.

Not true MZ. I am not stubborn at all. If I was stubborn like you, why would I take everything you say into account and addressing all your points? In contrast, YOU IGNORE all my points. Hence it is YOU who are stubborn and trying to PROJECT it onto me! I elaborated on this in detail here: viewtopic.php?style=11&p=395115#p395115

Please consider all the points and examples I made in that post so I don't have to repeat them. I am not stubborn at all. I am open to all viewpoints and theories and different angles. But we must take ALL DATA into account, not jump to conclusions based on erroneous assumptions. See my previous post above about that. I am a perfectionist and that is one of my mental problems, I admit, that's why I keep correcting errors and mistakes here. You can see that can't you? I merely see fallacies and mistakes and false assumptions better than most can. It has nothing to do with being stubborn. The bigger problem is that you are narrow minded and jump to conclusions and don't take all the data into account.