celery2010 wrote:The difference is that there's nothing wrong in saying be the best that you can be. Everyone has potential.
That is like telling athletes that they don't need coaches, they will win the Superbowl without any training, help or effort whatsoever. The winner should be the naturally talented.
And earning money? Effort should not be rewarded, just seniority.
And the overweight middle aged woman should be loved for who she is; yeah losing weight and having good style make no difference.
Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?
(This is not to say i condone the self help industry though.)
Winston wrote:I dont understand the logic and basis of the self-help/self-improvement industry in America. I mean, if im kind, caring, honest and a good guy, and i have good communication skills and am friendly and sociable, then WHY THE HELL do i need to change myself or improve myself in order to have a good social or dating life?!?! Whats the logic of that? How am I at fault or deficient that i need "self-improvement"? Sounds like a con and scam to blame victims rather than a toxic, unnatural, dysfunctional, disconnected society.
Also, how come i dont need self-improvement or confidence to have a normal social and dating life in Russia, Europe or China? The self improvement gurus such as Dr. Wayne Dyer or Tony Robbins NEVER have an answer for that. Neither do mainstream Americans.
Celery, you are delusional and using total straw mans. No one is saying that you shouldnt be the best you can be. No one is saying that athletes dont need coaches. Or that you dont need to make effort.
But the self improvement industry exaggerates and makes misleading promises. It is also overlapped with the new age movement and its crazy unrealistic claims. Sure they contain good advice, but its mixed with BS as well, like such things usually are. Like i said before you cant sell 100 percent lies or 100 percent truth. You have to mix it up.
For example they say you can do anything you believe in. There are no limits. Even hillary clinton says that "Girls can do anything. There are no limits. They need to believe that." She said that in her concession speech. Its BS. Of course you cant do "anything". There are limits. You gotta work with your skills, talents, strengths and opportunities. This is common sense. Why do i always have to explain common sense things to you guys? You guys sometimes act like ignorant sheep. Lol
An athlete with talent and potential needs a coach. Yeah. But thats because the coach believes in him. If you had no talent or athletic ability then the coach would deem it a waste of time to coach you. But the new age and self improvement industry says that you can do anything you believe you can, even if you have no talent or aptitude. Thats plain false and delusional.
For example i cant go to a coach and say that i want him to train me for the Olympics in gymnastics because i read The Secret and believe that i can do anything through the power of thoughts. He would laugh at me if i said that. If im too old to start training and dont have any talent or aptitude, then my beliefs and thoughts dont matter and wont help. Enough said. Its no brainer. Do i have to explain this to you?
Ask a professional coach. He will tell you that he will only train people with POTENTIAL, and strong potential too. He wont say that he will train those who believe in themselves yet lack any talent or potential. Common sense.
You guys sometimes act so dumb that you make me look smart by contrast. Lol
If hillary believe that girls should have no limits in what they can achieve then why doesnt she tell them to jump off a building and try to fly? Lol. There are no limits right?
See how exaggerated all this BS is? If you take it literally it can be dangerous too. Some people have been killed doing dangerous things believing that they were invincible and were foolish. They believed thoughts create their reality so that nothing can hurt them if they dont fear it.
Studies show that new age people and positive attitude junkies take more risks and hence have a higher rate of fatality than negative people and pessimists who do not take risks. I posted those studies before.
We have been through all this before. I hate explaining the same thing many times. This is the umpteenth time.