Why do the powers that be push globalism and socialism so badly?

[Winston]

Mr S told me that the elites want to instate globalism and socialism and create a feudal society again like in the Middle Ages and eliminate the middle class, so that most people will be poor and work all day for money as slaves and peasants. Is that true? Here's my reply:

But they gotta offer society some benefit for making everyone poor and miserable. Theres gotta be a tradeoff or benefits vs loss of freedom for everyone to accept it and stabilize such a system. For example in Huxley's Brave New World, there was lots of pleasure and free sex and free drugs in exchange for enslavement and abolition of families. Remember? Even socialism has to have some benefits.

Also if the Middle Ages didnt work then they cant just do the same thing. They gotta offer an upgraded version that will keep people satisfied and not want to rebel or start a reformation movement. Right?

Why do the elite and ruling class and deep state want globalism so badly? Arent they rich enough? Why do they need it so bad? Why can't they just enjoy their vast wealth?

Is globalism a natural part of human evolution? Why can't the elite enjoy their millions and have fun with their lives without forcing globalism onto the world? Why can't they let the world be free and enjoy their millions or billions of dollars at the same time so we can have a win win situation?

[Winston]

This person agrees with Mr S and has similar explanations. Is this true? If so, why? Why can't they just let everyone be free, happy and prosperous?

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... #pid376771

"My personal belief is that we live in a world of control-freak politicians, 99% of whom have a tendency toward socialism and/or 'Big Government'. It therefore seems likely that Covid, like the Global Warming bandwagon, would be hijacked and used to that end. It wouldn't even need to be 'masterminded', because there are sufficient people in positions of power with like-minded tendencies. It's just the way the world works now that socialists (in their various guises) have reached critical mass.

In 1906, a guy called William James wrote a paper titled, "The Moral Equivalent of War".

He was exploring alternatives to war as a means to drive massive societal change: something which would motivate and organise people in the way that war does, but without the cost and bloodshed. After WWI, this question took on great significance, as world leaders realised that people were prepared to endure great sacrifice during wars.

They realised that, if they could find something that was a big enough threat but was NOT war, people would make sacrifices for the good of society and the nation, without the devastation that war involves. This could include giving up the way of life to which the people were accustomed. They would put up with less food, fewer consumer goods, lesser quality of necessities, fewer services and greatly restricted or even the total confiscation of their rights.

In short, they would surrender to effective dictatorship, all in the name of ‘saving the nation.’

Most recently global warming was their great hope, but isn't getting enough traction, though they haven't given up yet. Covid might just provide the 'big threat' they're looking for."

[fschmidt]

Mr S told me that the elites want to instate globalism and socialism and create a feudal society again like in the Middle Ages and eliminate the middle class, so that most people will be poor and work all day for money as slaves and peasants. Is that true?

Yes

Also if the Middle Ages didnt work then they cant just do the same thing. They gotta offer an upgraded version that will keep people satisfied and not want to rebel or start a reformation movement. Right?

Wrong. The Middle Ages lasted 1000 years and there is no reason why Middle Ages 2.0 can't last just as long.

Why do the elite and ruling class and deep state want globalism so badly? Arent they rich enough? Why do they need it so bad? Why can't they just enjoy their vast wealth?

They want power, not wealth.

Is globalism a natural part of human evolution? Why can't the elite enjoy their millions and have fun with their lives without forcing globalism onto the world? Why can't they let the world be free and enjoy their millions or billions of dollars at the same time so we can have a win win situation?

Yes parasites are natural. The question is whether the immune system is strong enough to fight off parasites. Globalists are social parasites. Religion is the social immune system. Since religion is broken, there is nothing to stop the globalists from taking power.

[Winston]

But @fschmidt in the Middle Ages people had a lot more leisure time remember? They didn't work all day with no holiday or leisure time like Americans do today. See here.

6 Ridiculous Myths About the Middle Ages Everyone Believes
http://www.cracked.com/article_20186_6- ... ieves.html

Also see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18603

Also wouldn't a return to the Middle Ages mean that the monarchy would have to be re-established too? I doubt the world would accept that.

[Winston]

Don't the elite and globalists know that what they do is wrong and will have negative karmic consequences? Especially since I heard that a lot of them are Occultists and are involved in Freemasonry or belong to some kind of Illuminati organization that does occult rituals at Bohemian Grove right? If so, then they must know that their actions have negative karmic consequences right? Do they know they are serving the "dark side"?

The thing is, I don't don't think anyone thinks of themselves as "the bad guys" right? Everyone thinks they are doing the right thing. Even Hitler and Stalin thought they were doing the right thing and never saw themselves as evil. Everyone justifies what they do in their own mind I'm sure. So do these globalists think they are the good guys and doing something good? How do they justify it all in their minds? Not to defend them, but I think it's cartoonish and simplistic to think the globalists are some sort of cartoon villains like in superhero comics. That probably doesn't exist in real life right?

Is it possible that the globalists want to establish some type of good peaceful kind world government like the kind you see in the Star Trek universe? With a Federation that is good and tries to help people and promote peace and mutual benefit to all?

[Winston]

What if the elites just wanna create a peaceful world government like the federation in star trek and we are just backward people afraid of change? Like michio kaku claims? Could that be the case? Did u consider that?

After all cartoon villains like in superhero comics don't exist right? Everyone thinks they are doing the right thing. No one sees themselves as the bad guys right? Even Hitler and Stalin didn't see themselves as bad guys or evil.

How do the elites justify what they do when they push for socialism and globalism? They are occultists if they are freemasons and illuminists so they must know they will get bad karma if they do evil things right? They know about karma and basic ethics right?

[Winston]

Btw what about all those optimistic new agers like greg braden who say that we are evolving into a global planetary consciousness and awakening? Lol. Hes very intelligent and articulate. What about the Zeitgeist movement that wants to end money and corruption?

[Tsar]

What if the elites just wanna create a peaceful world government like the federation in star trek and we are just backward people afraid of change? Like michio kaku claims? Could that be the case? Did u consider that?

After all cartoon villains like in superhero comics don't exist right? Everyone thinks they are doing the right thing. No one sees themselves as the bad guys right? Even Hitler and Stalin didn't see themselves as bad guys or evil.

How do the elites justify what they do when they push for socialism and globalism? They are occultists if they are freemasons and illuminists so they must know they will get bad karma if they do evil things right? They know about karma and basic ethics right?

This Game of Thrones scene really sums up that truth of human nature.



I therefore say the truth is that the goal of maintaining power is enough of a good personal agenda for the elites to do whatever necessary to maintain it. It may not be good, but the truth is that typically humans do not do what is good for the group. After all, National Socialism was at it's core trying to do that for humanity and set an example for all societies in the world to do what is good for your specific group of people. It was destroyed as a mainstream ideology and labeled evil.

Power isn't about peace or karma. Maintaining power is everything.

[Winston]

@gsjackson , @Cornfed , @Moretorque , @Neo what's your take on this topic?

Here's another interesting reply to my question from another forum.

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... #pid377185

"You'll drive yourself crazy if you try to figure out the motivations or the thoughts of the global elites. Haven't met a true mind-reader yet, personally.

It doesn't really matter what they think.

It doesn't really matter what they say, either.

What really matters is what they do.

Much of the so-called "conspiracy" that seems to be out there with regard to globalists is really a simple cooperation to develop systems that will benefit the multi-national corporations and industries owned by the globalists. When there's that much money at stake, it tends to corrupt people's thinking and more importantly, their behavior. And, there's a great temptation for them to "influence" the politicians and the militaries of various countries via their monetary support, many times playing both sides of the fence. Even President Eisenhower warned about the "Military-Industrial Complex" prior to leaving office.

Do these internationalists "conspire"? Well, sometimes they do. But most of the time, they simply cooperate via think tanks & private meetings behind closed doors. Their actions (what they do) reveal a lot. As to whether they're truly "conspiring" or simply agreeing to follow a certain course of action or plan--- that we'll never know for sure unless we become a globalist billionaire ourselves and get invited to some of these meetings.

When we're talking about billions and even trillions of dollars at stake, dealing with those kinds of sums tends to warp the moral compass of people, if they sometimes come to the conclusion that their own success and their own agenda or cause is more important than making sure all the rights of the "little people" are preserved. In other words, the more success they achieve, the more they think they are the only ones who have the correct answers. As they have more and more success, especially on a global scale, eventually they develop a "god complex" where they think of themselves as higher and more intelligent than the teaming masses.

The world has worked this way for a very long time now. Those who cry "crazy conspiracy theorist!!" every time someone presents such facts about the "global elites" likely haven't read a lot in the way of history books.

Don't get me wrong-- sometimes there are truly "crazy" conspiracy theories out there. But when it comes to the globalist plans for a "new world order" (a top-down global governance system where political, monetary and economic power is delivered via global organizations), then even the globalist themselves outwardly speak of that system and have done so for decades now.

I purchased a used copy of David Rockefeller's autobiography. I have it open to page 405 right now as I type this. On that section, under the topic title of "Populist Paranoia", Mr. Rockefeller wrote in 2002:

"Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure-- one world, if you will. It's that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller, ISBN# 0679405887

So, out of his own mouth, you see he agrees that he was involved with and supports such a one world system. You need not take my posts blindly-- get the book yourself and you can read it for yourself. And, many, many other similar pro-one world people have expressed the same sentiments both in writing and in videos, there is no doubt about their plans.

The problem with the globalist philosophy is that they think like the Star Trek saying, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". That philosophy is the core basis of what Karl Marx wrote about in The Communist Manifesto.

The United States, however, was founded upon the rights of the individual, and our Constitution was written to protect those individual rights, even if they come into conflict with what is perceived as the "needs" of the many. The only time we curtail the rights of an individual is when that individual's behavior directly and clearly violates the individual rights of another person, and only when it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a lawful manner. But we never restricted the rights of the individual simply in order to give a benefit to the many. At least, it used to be that way.

And that paragraph above summarizes why I think a mandated vaccine is un-Constitutional and wrong."

[jamesbond]

The bottom line is the elite want a one world government. They also want a cashless society and to have everyone micro chipped so they can be tracked where ever they go. With Biden as president, those things will be much easier to accomplish.

[Winston]

Some perplexing questions and musings on my mind.

[12/18, 10:55 PM] Winston Wu: Why doesn't God or ETs intervene in this election fraud and deep state takeover?
[12/18, 10:57 PM] Winston Wu: To help instate justice and let the real election results take hold.
[12/18, 10:58 PM] Winston Wu: If i were God id do something about the election fraud so the real results are shone. Sometimes he has to intervene at the right moments.
[12/18, 10:59 PM] Winston Wu: I heard ETs deactivated a lot of nuclear warheads, ending the cold war.
[12/18, 11:00 PM] Winston Wu: Why cant God be like a good forum moderator and enforce rules? Lol
[12/18, 11:06 PM] Winston Wu: The elites know about star wars right? Do they see themselves like darth vader and the emperor serving the dark side of the force? Or do they really think they are the light side?
[12/18, 11:07 PM] Winston Wu: Also the elites know about the Book of Revelation in the Bible right? So they know they are scripted to lose in the end. So why do they even bother playing?

[Formafist]

Feminists are hypercapitalists

[Lucas88]

Why do the elite and ruling class and deep state want globalism so badly? Arent they rich enough? Why do they need it so bad? Why can't they just enjoy their vast wealth?

The global elites of today are not just regular business elites content just to make money and live in luxury as many wealthy Gentiles are. Rather they are a much more cruel and sadistic mafia of Jewish subversives who seek to plunge Gentile societies into chaos and darkness and to ultimately enslave and even mutilate the Gentile soul. These conspiratorial Jews are much more like a destructive virus than simple corporate oligarchs. They are followers of the demonic Yahweh cult who are striving to manifest their envisioned "Messianic Age" of Jewish world domination and universal Gentile enslavement.

This Jewish elite isn't content just to own the major banks and control the world's money supply. Nor is it content just to have its own ethno-state in the form of Israel with the support of the US and other important Western governments. That's not enough. In reality the Jewish elite wants nothing less than complete subversion, chaos, degeneration and destruction. That's why those demonic beings engineered communism and imposed it on much of the world, infect our societies with neo-Marxist doctrines aimed at the deconstruction of all Gentile values and the manufacturing of social conflict, embroil the nations in meaningless wars, drive people into poverty through debt, and even seek to destroy masculinity and femininity and natural relationships between the sexes through more recent destructive social trends. Their goal is deliberate destruction and obscurantism. What they envision is the creation of a twisted dystopian "Messianic" world in which all Gentiles are reduced to a condition of absolute servitude.

Why has the elite been pushing socialism and leftwing ideals for the last half century despite being major capitalists themselves? The reason is now obvious: they are preparing the nations for their now publicly announced GREAT RESET!

Think about it! Which demographic is going to be the Great Reset's biggest supporters? It's going to be mainly the political left from the more moderate left-leaning people with their ideals of "equality" and "sustainability" all the way to the batshit crazy "woke" fanatics and ilk who want full-on communism and will happily accept the new social order when the elite attempts to implement it. The promotion of socialism and leftwing ideals today is to prime the younger generations for the World Economic Forum's dystopia of tomorrow whose first article is: "you will own nothing and be happy". But don't be fooled, people! All of the talk about equality, sustainability and other nice-sounding things is just a way to hook people in. Beyond all of that faux-idealism there lies none other than a totalitarian communist regime of repression and subjugation.

[ArchibaultNew]

Depopulation.

This seems to be the common pattern that keeps repeating. All across different cultures and languages. I remember I talked with guy who have closed links with Wall Street banker. All he talked about was that when the population is low the standards of living improve, the enviroment is well-maintained and the population is obedient and follows their lead.

I believe that Elites all have different agendas. However, one thing in common they all have is the depopulation agenda. Hence, why feminism, abortion, LGBT all of them have the same results the reduction of the population.

[josephty2]

Why would it be planned depopulation? I think its more like the elites know whats going on in a big picture, and they know they can't do anything about it, but they can try to do something.

Its like the tower of babel, really, when some people try to shoot for the moon (or reach impossible standards, and have the money and power to do so), its a natural cause and effect of things really.

Naturally, things go wrong and economy collapses and people suffer. People who understand this, like Bill Gates, tried to warn others, but you know, stubbornness

As of globalism and socialism, you're not asking the right question.

My theory on why there's so many billions of people is obvious, someone about 150 years ago had the power to do something really simple and I think someone tried to talk him/her out of it, but they agreed to do it. The hard part, is identifying who. That would be a waste of time, it already happened.

I think you just want a world that makes more logical sense. You know, where I or you don't have to waste my time on whats going on thousands of miles away in the news, or not wasting my emotions on some random celebrity and the shit tests that people make, and the stress of "crazy rainbows and butterflies". In this scenario, I would imagine the local women would be easier to understand people like you.

Its not really a push for Socialism - its really finding more intuitives and disregarding unwanted types of people, like ESTPs. Basically rewarding intuitives (MBTI) who "have better habits" who just happen not to be white. Basically its a trend to reward darker skin/ethnic minorites who are intuitives (MBTI) and punishing the ESTPs (MBTI) who are white. This leads to people being encouraged to move to other areas based on their talents, much like winning a national scholarship, and getting admitted to an Ivy League school.

The reason for this, is that white ESTPs are too difficult for most people to understand. Like you probably know a class from school where most people failed or have higher fail rates. Its an attempt to "kick the can down the road" (a quote from FDR).