Languages that you love and languages that you can't f'n' stand

[Lucas88]

You also brought up that Americans came from all those jolly rural folks south of London while all the arrogant rich assholes stayed in England.
Well now Americans living in the East and West Coasts are bunch of soulless, backstabbing, arrogant a$$holes while the Americans in the Mid West and the South are more down to Earth and jolly. Funny how the dynamics have changed.

I have lived in American for over 25 years. However similar to Winston's, other user's and even Tsar's one hundred page rant about why America sucks.. I have very little "love" left for the country just like you have little love left for your country, the UK. Just my observation. I don't judge.

I didn't mean to imply that Americans today are jolly and soulful. I was simply pointing out that American English originally emerged among soulful rural people in southern England and that the speech of those folks contributed to its nicer and more upbeat sound.

Americans today are by and large every bit as cold-hearted and soulless as Winston, Tsar and yourself point out, even despite their nicer and more upbeat form of English. Of course they are; the US is nothing more than a neo-feudal society for the most part and the multitude of modern serfs live to toil for their corporate masters until all life and soul is sucked out of them. Such a people which, due to the external pressures of an unnatural society, is only able to see things in terms of money, economic competition and the crudest utility can never be free-spirited and soulful. The US is not a country that is conducive to any kind of true soulfulness, only the illusory happiness of consumerism and a mind numbed by antidepressants.

Yes, Americans who live on the East and West coasts tend to be more narcissistic and neurotic, a product of the ultra-materialistic narc culture which has emerged in those places, particularly in New York and Los Angeles. People from the Midwest tend to be more humble and more down to earth.

[WilliamSmith]

Germanic Languages

British English - Hideous

I absolutely hate British English and find it dull, soulless, depressing and unbearable to listen to. Many of its phonemes are dissonant and unpleasant. Whenever I hear this variety of English on TV, I immediately change the channel!

@Lucas88
Highly entertaining thread, by the way.
But even as an American who doesn't know which "British" English is which, it's always been obvious there's dramatically different accents from people who are from different parts of England (and if you go "UK," then also obviously Scotland, Ireland, Wales, etc too).
I always thought the way Kate Beckinsale talked sounded classy. Is that a "London" accent? (It admittedly suits classy women better than men, though I think most people found it cultured prior to the modern times when the English cucked out to the ZOG and filled their sorry-ass nation full of rapefugees and spread their cheeks for faggotry etc. Maybe Hugh Grant is another guy who speaks that, LOL, though I probably could've thought of a more masculine example....)

What about the regional accents from different parts of England? Do you hate those too? (I think my personal "alpha male" role model Timothy Dalton from License to Kill was Welsh, is that a Welsh accent he has??)

One of the hottest white women I ever saw talked like a very feminine version of one of the dwarfs from "Warhammer: Shadow of the Horned Rat," LOL!!! Do you or @Pixel--dude have a guess what part of England that was from? (I.e. the oldtime England, not the current version where the whole thing's overrun with a bunch of hook-nosed pakis and Indians and such.)
My "line" has been in North America for a long time (gold-rush era as far as I know) but I think my father's side of the family mostly comes from a mix of Welsh types and (moreso) peasants and churls from the London area who would've been scrounging around shitholes like Limehouse on the waterfront or something like that, LOL. So is the so-called "cockney" in my roots?

North American English - Okay
The English spoken throughout much of the US and Canada sounds considerably nicer. It is smoother and more upbeat, has a better flow and is at least bearable to listen to. North American English is a much better version of the language in my opinion, even if it's not particularly beautiful either.

Listen to how Lance Henriksen talks if you want to know more or less how I personally talk.
But there's also a zillion regional accents out in the jewnited states.
I like the oldtime Anglo-American accents that you'd hear delivered by old-fashioned radio announcers in prior decades.
Southerners also sound badass a lot of times. (@gsjackson, what type do you speak? Weren't you and @Outcast9428 Southerners?)
More or less country western "redneck" accents abound in the rural areas in the PNW. The so-called "drawl," if I remember the word....

Most of the judaized weak whites in the cities like Portland and Seattle talk like a bunch of pompous effeminate homosexuals, or the less judaized ones who are lessed f***ed up tend to either talk kinda like me (more or less), or else have a more country accent....

The way all the kikeroaches and whops from the east coast talk is mildly amusing as well. (See the various jewish produced films like "Goodfellas" and the Godfather series for examples of how the jewy-looking whops talk. Of course those are also examples of how the jewish hollywood producers lay all the blame for "American" organized crime on the whops, even though those knuckle-dragging spaghetti-eaters were actually far less to blame and almost all the worst organized crime in the jewnited states, which was mostly caused by the jews ever since the kikeroaches spilled over en masse from eastern europe and Russia, etc.)

[WilliamSmith]

African American Vernacular English - Smooth and Melodious

AAVE is actually my favorite variety of English and I even find it pleasant to listen to. I don't care about its supposed low prestige. Born out of Southern US English and influenced by the phonetics of the African languages brought to America by Black slaves, AAVE is very smooth and has a lot of melody as well as its colorful and cool slang. Not all AAVE is ghetto either. Regular Black folk have spoken it for a long time. I love this variety of English and find it sexy on a Black female with curves.

I never thought about it much before I started scoring with black American women, but certainly don't disagree at this point.
I also like it when girls from Chicago (and I'd imagine elsewhere, but not sure) say "axe" instead of "ask," and let's not get me started on the beauty of non-verbal but highly vocal "Blaccented" female orgasms.
Caribbean and African accents are very appealing as well, IMO.

German - Hideous

English's uglier and more convoluted cousin, German sounds harsh and unpleasant yet often somewhat camp and effeminate at the same time. It also sounds robotic, dorky and overly serious. If German were a woman, it would be downright unfuckable! Eine unfickbare Schlampe!

@Lucas88
I personally think German and Japanese are interesting in that they're the two most badass masculine languages if and when the men actually speak them in a masculine way. The thing is almost all contemporary Germans have a weird deliberate high-pitched voice and sound like effeminate faggots, and their language sounds absolutely f***ing AWFUL when they do that.
But when they speak it like real men, it's f***ing badass! (But of course this is coming from the forum's resident "barbarian pride" character, LOL.)


Japanese is even better, but there's a similar dynamic where modern day manginas over there talk like diffident faggots too much, but have you ever heard it when genuine Japanese alpha males speak it? When they do that, it's AWESOME! For example, Toshiro Mifune in Yojinbo and Sanjuro and the Hidden Fortress, Bunta Sugawara in the Jingi Naki Tatakai (Battles Without Honor and Humanity, aka" Yakuza Papers" films). @Yohan I'm not trying to bother you but I don't suppose you're also a fan of any of those films, by any chance?

Japanese is also one of the most interesting languages with built-in cultural sexual dimorphism in the sense that the men (if they actually talk like men) can sound like masculine studs, while the women sound sexy and ultra-feminine.
(I'm a big fan of sexual dimorphism, as some may have gathered).

I don't have any further interest in their chicks (and I know this sounds lame in the 2020s after generations have been deluged in jewish internet porn provoking everyone's hostility and perversion to the max, but in the pre-internet days I honestly was so naive I didn't even realize Asian men resented white men poking their chicks so much, LOL), but............... f**k!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT CLIP BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES FROM MY CHILDHOOD (WHICH IS WHEN I FIRST SAW YOJINBO ON A VHS CASSETTE TAPE IN THE 90S) AND THIS SERIOUSLY MAKES ME WANT TO GO BACK TO JAPAN! I WANT TO GO BACK TO SHIKOKU ISLAND!!! WHY'D THE ZOG HAVE TO DO COVID AND !@#$?
(Sorry for that outburst.)
I'm totally horrified to see how Japan has been subverted to the point hordes of foreign invaders are going there like they are to Europe. (I recently saw footage posted by based Japanese nationalists of Kurds and Africans creating mayhem and crime in formerly Japanese cities.)
Hopefully Japanese nationalists will gain more traction and throw out all the damaging foreign invaders. I really find it tragic such a unique one-of-a-kind island nation is following a similar path to what's happening to ZOG-subverted Europe, and hope the Japanese ultranationalists will turn the situation around bigtime.

[Lucas88]

@Lucas88
Highly entertaining thread, by the way.
But even as an American who doesn't know which "British" English is which, it's always been obvious there's dramatically different accents from people who are from different parts of England (and if you go "UK," then also obviously Scotland, Ireland, Wales, etc too).
I always thought the way Kate Beckinsale talked sounded classy. Is that a "London" accent? (It admittedly suits classy women better than men, though I think most people found it cultured prior to the modern times when the English cucked out to the ZOG and filled their sorry-ass nation full of rapefugees and spread their cheeks for faggotry etc. Maybe Hugh Grant is another guy who speaks that, LOL, though I probably could've thought of a more masculine example....)

What about the regional accents from different parts of England? Do you hate those too? (I think my personal "alpha male" role model Timothy Dalton from License to Kill was Welsh, is that a Welsh accent he has??)

There are many regional accents just in England alone. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that in some parts of the country accents can change significantly just by driving 20 or 30 miles.

There is no one London accent. People speak very differently depending on what part of the city or greater metro area they are from and also on social class. Some more well-to-do Londoners speak with a classy and well-enunciated form of English similar to how Americans imagine British English to sound like while the working-class communities speak one of the various coarse and substandard varieties. Cockney English is one of those.

I strongly dislike not only the prestigious "Received Pronunciation" form of British English but also the majority of the coarse and substandard bumkin dialects throughout the country. I don't find English a pretty language at all. Something about it to me has just always seemed a bit "off" from an aesthetic standpoint. American English always seemed like a more pleasant and fluid and therefore more palatable form of English to me ever since I was exposed to it through TV as a kid. I also instinctively preferred the sound of Spanish which I heard each summer during my extended stays with my expat family near Alicante. English in its British form just isn't a language that harmonizes with my aesthetic sensitivities.

Of course, some regional varieties sound more pleasant than others. I naturally prefer the northern varieties such as my own native Yorkshire variety as well as those of Manchester, Merseyside and Northumberland to the various midland and southern varieties (many of the midland and southern varieties just sound goddamn awful ). Still, I only find the northern varieties relatively more tolerable; they're not exactly pretty either.

Welsh English and Scottish English are completely different entities. Welsh English is essentially English spoken with an old Celtic phonology and sounds considerably more musical and melodious than regular British English. Scottish English just sounds harsh and, to be honest, I can hardly understand it. Apparently, Welsh English and Scottish English have their own wildly different regional varieties too, but I as an outsider haven't had enough exposure to them to be able to distinguish them apart.

As for actors, in films they often speak with an accent that is different to their own since they are portraying a character and so the way Bond actors speak on the TV screen (i.e., elegant upper-class British English) is considerably different from the regional variety that they habitually speak.

Timothy Dalton was indeed born in Wales but moved to Derbyshire, England when he was four. Sean Connery was Scottish but changed his accent for the movies.

My "line" has been in North America for a long time (gold-rush era as far as I know) but I think my father's side of the family mostly comes from a mix of Welsh types and (moreso) peasants and churls from the London area who would've been scrounging around shitholes like Limehouse on the waterfront or something like that, LOL. So is the so-called "cockney" in my roots?

Maybe. The Cockney variety of English has existed in East London for a long time.

If you speak like Lance Henriksen you have a good North American accent. I checked out the way he speaks on YouTube and ended up wanting to watch the old series Millennium!



Man, American TV used to be so awesome back in the late 90s and early 2000s!

[Lucas88]

African American Vernacular English - Smooth and Melodious

AAVE is actually my favorite variety of English and I even find it pleasant to listen to. I don't care about its supposed low prestige. Born out of Southern US English and influenced by the phonetics of the African languages brought to America by Black slaves, AAVE is very smooth and has a lot of melody as well as its colorful and cool slang. Not all AAVE is ghetto either. Regular Black folk have spoken it for a long time. I love this variety of English and find it sexy on a Black female with curves.

I never thought about it much before I started scoring with black American women, but certainly don't disagree at this point.
I also like it when girls from Chicago (and I'd imagine elsewhere, but not sure) say "axe" instead of "ask," and let's not get me started on the beauty of non-verbal but highly vocal "Blaccented" female orgasms.
Caribbean and African accents are very appealing as well, IMO.

I'm a big fan of old-school Funk and R&B music and always loved the way African Americans speak.

Here is a video about AAVE by Langfocus:

I personally think German and Japanese are interesting in that they're the two most badass masculine languages if and when the men actually speak them in a masculine way. The thing is almost all contemporary Germans have a weird deliberate high-pitched voice and sound like effeminate faggots, and their language sounds absolutely f***ing AWFUL when they do that.
But when they speak it like real men, it's f***ing badass! (But of course this is coming from the forum's resident "barbarian pride" character, LOL.)

A language must be euphonious and melodious/musical for me to be able to like it. Remember that a civilization's language will be used for music, poetry and romantic expressions. This is why the aesthetics of a language are extremely important.

For me, most Germanic languages and Japanese don't meet the requirements of euphony and melody. German, Dutch, etc. include far too many harsh and discordant sounds and lack the inherent musicality of the Romance languages while Japanese suffers from a glaring monotony of sound due to its comparatively small phonological inventory and lack of genuine word stress. If I were a civilization builder, I would definitely want a more euphonious and melodious language for my civilization than German or Japanese.

Examples of euphonious and melodious languages:

Latin American Spanish (aka español latinoamericano)




Brazilian Portuguese (aka português brasileiro)




Italian (aka "la bellissima lingua dei guappi romani dalle gambe storte e omosessuali" )




Albanian (not a Romance language but Illyrian)




Bengali




Persian/Farsi



See William, even poetic and musical languages like Farsi can sound extremely masculine as we can see when former president Ahmadinejad exposes the hypocrisy of the HoloHoax.

But, unlike the languages above, the Germanic languages just don't sound melodious or musical enough for me to want to sing in them, compose poetry in them, or romantically converse with hot chicks in them.

I liked Japanese when I first moved to Japan but then its monotony of sound and "flatness" just started to bore me or even irritate me and I began to long for Spanish again. Bumping into Spanish-speaking immigrants as well as Portuguese-speaking Brazilians in Japan was always pleasant. I always thought that their languages sounded much more soulful and vibrant than Japanese.

[galii]

@Lucas88
What do you think about Irish?

What do you think about Austrian and Swiss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sellnm7PbdA

[Lucas88]

@Lucas88
What do you think about Irish?

What do you think about Austrian and Swiss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sellnm7PbdA

Irish English sounds more pleasant and upbeat than British English but not as pleasant or easy to understand as North American English. Whenever I hear Irish people speak, the first thing that comes to mind is fun-loving drunken revelry and fighting. LMAO!



Irish as in the Celtic language Irish doesn't sound too pretty in my opinion. Welsh sounds sweeter and more musical.

Austrian German sounds more melodious and musical than regular German. I'd say that its intonation even sounds pleasant. Some of the consonants still sound quite harsh and dissonant though in comparison to the Romance languages. Compared to English, Austrian German sounds more clearly enunciated as well as deeper and more intellectual. All in all, Austrian seems like a better form of German from an aesthetic standpoint.

I actually found this video in my YouTube "Fitness Chicks" playlist:



Definitely sounds better than regular German when spoken by a woman. Not exactly powerfully bonerific like Brazilian Portuguese (I've seriously gotten enormous boners just hearing Brazilian babes speak) but not a complete boner-killer either. Lol!

I have no idea about Swiss.

[Lucas88]

@69ixine recently responded to a comment of mine concerning the aesthetics of the Dutch language in another thread:

To each their own,friend.

Dutch is actually a beautiful language depending on the accent,southerners and belgians have a nice soft accent.Look up flemish tv,you will see.

viewtopic.php?p=403836#p403836

I thought that I would cross-post it here since the topic is more relevant to this thread.

69ixine informed me that not all varieties of Dutch sound harsh or ugly and that the Dutch spoken in Belgian (i.e., Flemish) and the southern regions of the Netherlands is actually nicer and softer, even beautiful.

Here is a clip from a Belgian TV. I admit that I couldn't stop laughing either!




Here is the first episode of the Dutch/Belgian TV series Oberon:




69ixine, are these examples of the nice and soft Belgian and Southern Dutch that you were talking about?

@MarcosZeitola, what do you think of Belgian and Southern Dutch? Do you agree with 69ixine that it sounds nice and soft or do all varieties of Dutch sound fcukin' ass fugly to you? Lol!

[69ixine]

@Lucas88 don't you think the female talking in the second video sounds so sexy?when women speak flemish,it sounds very arousing lol

the guy talking in the second,he has a northern-central dutch accent and it sounds ugly.

Yes,Flemish is a very beautiful language especially spoken by girls.it's a plus in a white girl,if she is flemish or southern dutch and speaks with that accent!

you probabely can't appreciate it completely because you do not understand dutch like I do.I hate the dutch language,but love the flemish one.

Flanders also have better words.dutch is 'grof'or vulgar while flemish is like french.

[69ixine]

dutch spoken by randtstaders sounds pretentious but 'grof'.

allochtonen(ethnics)have a nicer accent but not nearly as nice as flemish





Rima has a good accent

moroccans have a bad accent.my ex gf speaks with one of those slotervaart moroccan accents lol

[MarcosZeitola]

@MarcosZeitola, what do you think of Belgian and Southern Dutch? Do you agree with 69ixine that it sounds nice and soft or do all varieties of Dutch sound fcukin' ass fugly to you? Lol!

As a Northern-Dutch, I'm of course biased. To us, Southern-Dutch sounds a bit 'retarded' and unintelligent. We also dislike the Belgian insistance that their dialect (Flemish) is a language in and of itself lol; it isn't. I personally don't hate it, however. But I cannot listen to it, either. All forms of Dutch sound kind of awful in their own ways, too me. The Dutch of the capitol region sounds harsh, and vulgar. Or, at times, too annoyingly posh. The Southern Dutch sounds dumb. And the Northern-Dutch sounds like a bunch of farmers and rednecks lol. So basically, it's all a big pile of stinking shit, in fairness. I just tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more.

[Lucas88]

@Lucas88 don't you think the female talking in the second video sounds so sexy?when women speak flemish,it sounds very arousing lol

The way the female narrator speaks sounds nicer and more feminine than regular Dutch but not exactly sexy or sensual like a Brazilian babe speaking Portuguese.

As a Northern-Dutch, I'm of course biased. To us, Southern-Dutch sounds a bit 'retarded' and unintelligent. We also dislike the Belgian insistance that their dialect (Flemish) is a language in and of itself lol; it isn't. I personally don't hate it, however. But I cannot listen to it, either. All forms of Dutch sound kind of awful in their own ways, too me. The Dutch of the capitol region sounds harsh, and vulgar. Or, at times, too annoyingly posh. The Southern Dutch sounds dumb. And the Northern-Dutch sounds like a bunch of farmers and rednecks lol. So basically, it's all a big pile of stinking shit, in fairness. I just tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more.

I feel exactly the same way about British English. I find all varieties either unbearably ugly, irritating, retarded or simply "meh", and just happen to tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more than the rest. I tolerate some of the more decent varieties of British English when I have to (e.g., when I'm in the UK or have to interact with British people abroad), but as soon as Spanish becomes available for me to use, I just happily switch to Spanish and don't speak English for months at a time.

Just out of curiosity, do any Dutch people even like Dutch? I mean, like prefer it as a language? Lol! I've heard so many Dutch people say that they can't stand Dutch, that Dutch sounds ugly and dumb, that English is better, that they'd rather explain something in English because Dutch is deficient for --- insert reason ---. Of course, I doubt that Dutch is really deficient when it comes to expression. One of the largest dictionaries ever was compiled for the Dutch language and Dutch is similar to German, which is known for the precision and depth of its vocabulary. I imagine that some oikoglossophobic (my invented term) Dutch people say things like that simply as an excuse not to speak the language or code-switch. LMAO!

[69ixine]

@Lucas88 don't you think the female talking in the second video sounds so sexy?when women speak flemish,it sounds very arousing lol

The way the female narrator speaks sounds nicer and more feminine than regular Dutch but not exactly sexy or sensual like a Brazilian babe speaking Portuguese.

As a Northern-Dutch, I'm of course biased. To us, Southern-Dutch sounds a bit 'retarded' and unintelligent. We also dislike the Belgian insistance that their dialect (Flemish) is a language in and of itself lol; it isn't. I personally don't hate it, however. But I cannot listen to it, either. All forms of Dutch sound kind of awful in their own ways, too me. The Dutch of the capitol region sounds harsh, and vulgar. Or, at times, too annoyingly posh. The Southern Dutch sounds dumb. And the Northern-Dutch sounds like a bunch of farmers and rednecks lol. So basically, it's all a big pile of stinking shit, in fairness. I just tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more.

I feel exactly the same way about British English. I find all varieties either unbearably ugly, irritating, retarded or simply "meh", and just happen to tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more than the rest. I tolerate some of the more decent varieties of British English when I have to (e.g., when I'm in the UK or have to interact with British people abroad), but as soon as Spanish becomes available for me to use, I just happily switch to Spanish and don't speak English for months at a time.

Just out of curiosity, do any Dutch people even like Dutch? I mean, like prefer it as a language? Lol! I've heard so many Dutch people say that they can't stand Dutch, that Dutch sounds ugly and dumb, that English is better, that they'd rather explain something in English because Dutch is deficient for --- insert reason ---. Of course, I doubt that Dutch is really deficient when it comes to expression. One of the largest dictionaries ever was compiled for the Dutch language and Dutch is similar to German, which is known for the precision and depth of its vocabulary. I imagine that some oikoglossophobic (my invented term) Dutch people say things like that simply as an excuse not to speak the language or code-switch. LMAO!

I like it better than a brazilian speaking portuguese,but again that's just taste.

so much is subjective.

Dutch is a hard language to express oneself,no doubt about that.I don't know how anyone that doesn't speak it only at home from birth,can finish school there lmao!

[MarcosZeitola]

I feel exactly the same way about British English. I find all varieties either unbearably ugly, irritating, retarded or simply "meh", and just happen to tolerate my own regional dialect slightly more than the rest. I tolerate some of the more decent varieties of British English when I have to (e.g., when I'm in the UK or have to interact with British people abroad), but as soon as Spanish becomes available for me to use, I just happily switch to Spanish and don't speak English for months at a time.

Just out of curiosity, do any Dutch people even like Dutch? I mean, like prefer it as a language? Lol! I've heard so many Dutch people say that they can't stand Dutch, that Dutch sounds ugly and dumb, that English is better, that they'd rather explain something in English because Dutch is deficient for --- insert reason ---. Of course, I doubt that Dutch is really deficient when it comes to expression. One of the largest dictionaries ever was compiled for the Dutch language and Dutch is similar to German, which is known for the precision and depth of its vocabulary. I imagine that some oikoglossophobic (my invented term) Dutch people say things like that simply as an excuse not to speak the language or code-switch. LMAO!

Dutch has it's perks. Some of the sayings are nice, for instance. I know a lot of people there who have "a way with words", especially folks 'down in the province'. Think "colorful expressions". Most of them don't translate well into English, but are quite fun in my native tongue. All-in-all, I can do without it and feel much better speaking English.

[WilliamSmith]

There are many regional accents just in England alone. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that in some parts of the country accents can change significantly just by driving 20 or 30 miles.

There is no one London accent. People speak very differently depending on what part of the city or greater metro area they are from and also on social class. Some more well-to-do Londoners speak with a classy and well-enunciated form of English similar to how Americans imagine British English to sound like while the working-class communities speak one of the various coarse and substandard varieties. Cockney English is one of those.

I strongly dislike not only the prestigious "Received Pronunciation" form of British English but also the majority of the coarse and substandard bumkin dialects throughout the country. I don't find English a pretty language at all. Something about it to me has just always seemed a bit "off" from an aesthetic standpoint. American English always seemed like a more pleasant and fluid and therefore more palatable form of English to me ever since I was exposed to it through TV as a kid. I also instinctively preferred the sound of Spanish which I heard each summer during my extended stays with my expat family near Alicante. English in its British form just isn't a language that harmonizes with my aesthetic sensitivities.

Of course, some regional varieties sound more pleasant than others. I naturally prefer the northern varieties such as my own native Yorkshire variety as well as those of Manchester, Merseyside and Northumberland to the various midland and southern varieties (many of the midland and southern varieties just sound goddamn awful ). Still, I only find the northern varieties relatively more tolerable; they're not exactly pretty either.

Welsh English and Scottish English are completely different entities. Welsh English is essentially English spoken with an old Celtic phonology and sounds considerably more musical and melodious than regular British English. Scottish English just sounds harsh and, to be honest, I can hardly understand it. Apparently, Welsh English and Scottish English have their own wildly different regional varieties too, but I as an outsider haven't had enough exposure to them to be able to distinguish them apart.

As for actors, in films they often speak with an accent that is different to their own since they are portraying a character and so the way Bond actors speak on the TV screen (i.e., elegant upper-class British English) is considerably different from the regional variety that they habitually speak.

Timothy Dalton was indeed born in Wales but moved to Derbyshire, England when he was four. Sean Connery was Scottish but changed his accent for the movies.

@Lucas88
Thanks, that was interesting stuff!
I never look up any biographical details about actors I like, I never even knew that about my two favorite Bond actors.

What you said about accents changing heavily even driving 20-30 miles is fairly true up in North America too, where my "Lance Henriksen" North American English can be in one area but they can speak full Country-Western "redneck" drawl a short distance away, then the Southerners have their own arguably more charismatic accents that are very distinct and different, and Texans also have their own, and then there's the East Coast types I haven't had to deal with as much (thankfully) but have lots more distinct regional accents.

My "line" has been in North America for a long time (gold-rush era as far as I know) but I think my father's side of the family mostly comes from a mix of Welsh types and (moreso) peasants and churls from the London area who would've been scrounging around shitholes like Limehouse on the waterfront or something like that, LOL. So is the so-called "cockney" in my roots?

Maybe. The Cockney variety of English has existed in East London for a long time.

If you speak like Lance Henriksen you have a good North American accent. I checked out the way he speaks on YouTube and ended up wanting to watch the old series Millennium!



Man, American TV used to be so awesome back in the late 90s and early 2000s!

I never saw that show Millenium before. Not sure I'll ever have time to check it out or not, but let me know if it's good if you get to it.
The best Henriksen flicks IMO are Stone Cold and Delta Heat, with Hard Target coming in a close 3rd, and that's an awesome movie, but he was an evil f***er in that movie, and even though his performance was top notch I wasn't really convinced by him as a rich man, because he always instinctively struck me as "one of us" (born a poor peasant churl even if he made it big in show biz, LOL).

Here he is schooling everyone on our "good North American accent":

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mymjbcmJtw0v/