Maybe a decade ago. But today, its different. Just go hit the POF message board and you will see that the vast MAJORITY of men report having absolutely no success. There are 100's of posts by men complaining about how dateless they are and how they cant meet women online. I think you are living in the past. Have you been in the dating scene as of late? I didn't have time to read all the posts so I'm not sure if you're married or not.Also, the statement "Every girl is either too taken, too young, too heavy or too good," is rubbish. There are plenty of men, and I was one of them, who never had any serious issues with women.
Did steve say that? LOL Myself, after 7 trips to the Philippines and reading many expat blogs on dating abroad, I haven't seen any claims like that. I did listen to Steve's interview with Winston and don't I recall Steve saying he could cold approach a girl and have her in the sack within hours. BUT, I did hear Steve say that he was able to be set up on dates quite easily and it seemed the girls were very into him and sex wasn't hard to come by on these dates. Try that in the USA, LOL. Shiiit, there aint no comparison. For the most part, all you will be able to get in the US are overweight women. Steve and Winston are telling these guys that being able to get dates with sexy ht/wt prop women is VERY easy in many other countries which is absolutely true. Let me put it to ya this way. I myself, being a well kept physically attractive guy, haven't had any dates here in the US in 2 years for all the reasons mentioned by Winston . It's not that I cant get dates, its that the only dates I seem to be able to get are w/ FAT women or semi fat mid 40's + Trying to get a single date with a non obese woman under 37 has been literally impossible. They are always taken or not interested. Same deal with my buddies too. But when I am in the Philippipnes and Latin America, shiiiit, I can get 20 dates a week with HOT women who would be 7,8, 9's in the US. And many of those girls have degrees and professional jobs, even masters degrees, and highly intellectual too, not just some poor factory worker. There is no comparison! Though admittedly, the more educated and intellectual ones were mostly in Latin America.The next time Steve comes to Thailand, let him walk through a mall with me. I'll stand away from him, and let's see him do cold approaches to 6's and 7's and see if he can get them in bed in an hour. If he does this I'll eat my words.
I can send 100 messages on US dating sites and get no response, or 1 or 2 who soon dissappear because they are getting hit on by 100 guys a day. In Latin AMerica, I dont even freakin have to send a message. In fact, i counted 120 hits of interest on Latin Cupid in just 1 week!! And many are e flat out beautiful. Everywhere I look I see men who are dissatisfied with their dating lives here in the US, especially guys in their upper 30's and more. There is a huge problem in the US.
It was far easier in the past. 10-30 years ago, women outnumbered men in the dating scene (which is opposite today where men outnumber women by 10- 20% in most cities) , that is not the case anymore. 10-30 years ago, women were not narcissistic like they are today, so they were not full of themselves and they were more friendly to meet. 10-30 years ago, there was no obesity epidemic causing a small pool of ht/wt prop women to be stuck up and snooty and unapproachable due to their goddess status or in demand status just for the sole reason of not being overweight. THINGS WERE DIFFERENT.As far as my dating in the US...granted, I was younger when I was there. But I regularly met women on the street and would meet them in their cars when I was on my motorcycle. So while it may be extremely difficult for some men to approach American women, it wasn't for me. I guess that's preposterous.
But if you honestly think there aren't men in the US getting laid or who have great relationships, I have no idea where to go from there.
I agree. Of course there are some men who are doing fine.
Agreed!. You act like it's impossible but the truth is, it's not impossible for some guys Winston.
Well, I think he had connnections? He had people on the ground who knew people right? So yes, in such a case, it can be easy there. But women falling at his feet?? As in women in the malls, walking the streets etc, I didn't get that idea one bit from his interview. I only got the idea that if you just get your arse out there, it shouldn't be hard to either be introduced to women if you know people, or get online and meet women off dating sites. And both are 100 true and cannot be done so well in the US.I think most of us former and current Thai expats had issues when he put forth the comment that he was easily sleeping with non p4p Thai women who were 7 and 8's in his mind. He made it sound like women were just falling down at his feet there. It sounded like 100% bullshit. Winston, the way he's presenting that is a blatant misrepresentation on the level of difficulty a foreigner would have in dating much less sleeping with quality Thai women. Even some of the more suspect posters on Rooshv said that Thailand wasn't that simple.
I think this is also what Steve is trying to convey. IN the US, women dont smile at you. When you are at a place where women smile at you, you got chances!! This is the seminar message!Plenty of Thai ladies randomly smile at me. Winston would love it here!
Well, that's you, but most men who marry foreign women dont do that. Most guys visit the girl once a year 2 weeks at a time for 2 years in a row, or if they are not limited by a job, they will make many more visits and stay longer. I personally know of 3 personal close friends who did it that way.(2 of which only spent 1 two week vacation with the girl and decided to marry her) All still going strong in their marriages. Foreign women are so much more emotionally and psychologically healthy, and have much better values towards marriage, that the success rates are 80% vs 40-59% success rates with American women. It works because these women have better qualities whereas with American women, so many are emotionally unstable, narcissistic and lack values , that only knowing one for a few weeks or a month in total in person would not work out so well.if someone wants to meet and hook up with a foreign woman, chances are that they'll need to spend a minimum of six months with them in their own country in order to get to know them. Apart from moving to a different country, if someone is living in the US, what's their course of action? Personally I wouldn't get serious with any woman I didn't know well from face-to-face interactions
Look guys, Steve or anyone else for that matter doesn't have to have major time and experience traveling and dating in multiple countries to speak TRUTH. One can experience a few trips to see that things are TRULY DIFFERENT overseas for men, and that dates are far easier to get, that women are sweet and friendly and feminine. One can combine that limited personal experience (even if only there for a few weeks) with what one reads from other expats online and other guys trip reports to learn about the dating scenes abroad, and then go spread the word and tell other men about it. There are so many men who want to have dating options, who want a wife and family without having to settle for overweight or women with issues , that this material changes lives. My experience with foreign women changed my life and I've seen many men's lives be changed who were once lonely for years with little hope who now have sexy beautiful women as wives with kids in tow. If not for overseas dating options, they'd most likely still be single and lonely.
This stuff is for real and Roosh and others talk about these differences too.(though Roosh is 90% about gaming and having sex with them) Most american men either dont know this stuff or they buy into the green card love ya and leave ya stereotypes. Steve, Winston, and myself want to HELP guys wake up and tell them that they DONT have to be single and lonely! And even more than that, they can have better quality women with which whom you will only have a 20% chance of divorce with.
Winston, Im not so sure about doing this at a house, to me, I would be apprehensive going to someone's home for a seminar. I would think a public venue or a cheap hotel conference room would be less weird. Going to someone's house is so personal. Maybe I'm wrong though. If you actually have people show up, Ill be willing to join you guys on future seminars. Ill be very useful in backing you guys with the stats , facts, and studies. I know all that stuff like the back of my hand. ANyways, While many guys need help , I'm just not so sure they will go to a seminar about it. Most just rely on internet for information. But I hope you guys give it a try. You never know right??? It could be more in demand than we know and what if its the beginning of something much bigger? Thats how these things start out, very small, in someone's garage right?