Generalizing American Women?

[OTB]

This is something that has been brewing inside of me for some time. So now I'm spilling it. To set the tone of this thread, all I can do is speak from experience and observation. Sometimes I'll vent to people I know about the quality and selection of women here in the states. One thing they say is you can't generalize a whole population. My best friends dad said one time there are a 100 million women in this country and you can't tell me there aren't any good women here. I agree but most of them are taken and the percentage of good women I would reckon is very low.

Also, in my opinion, an American female from the age of 18 to 35 just do not possess a traditional marriage mindset. The values that should be taught to these girls from a young age have been completely abandoned. It's evident in the way they act. I see it!! I hear the way they talk. I see the way they act. Look how these girls and women carry themselves anymore. Tattoos/tramp stamps on their lower backs and other parts of their body. Piercings in their lips, tongue, and upper eyelids. Dressing like hookers and going to stores in their pajamas and slippers. Different color hair. I see all this crap in public places and it makes me SICK!!!! This seems to be the norm these days with American females. Not all are like this, of course, but I'm sure most of you know all this crap I just mentioned is evident and very widespread.

Another thing that stands out that I notice about a lot of the American broads is that a lot of them look like they drink or do drugs because you can tell from how their faces look. They have this run down, zombie look. Their skin doesn't look healthy. I see a lot of this in Walmart and even at work. There is something wrong with these women.

It's just this artificial culture we live in and the lack of a values being taught to them that have made American women into very immature, backwards, and mentally unstable beings.

So why should I be optimistic about finding a woman of quality with a traditional mindset? So people say you can't generalize. How would you feel if someone made a generalization about American men? You have to get to know the person first before judging. Well a lot of these woman give off a nasty, slutty, low class aura that I have no desire to want to get to know them. The way these women carry themselves zaps all romantic intentions. Once in a blue moon I'll see a chick that catches my eye and I think she might be worth getting to know, BUT as we already know no signs of interests are shown. They act closed off and don't acknowledge that you're trying to flirt. So I leave them alone.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you have people saying the same thing? You can't generalize a whole population of women. There are good women out there. You'll find one.

I think it's the people who think outside the box who can see this is a land scarce of quality women.

[odbo]

Sometimes I'll vent to people I know about the quality and selection of women here in the states. One thing they say is you can't generalize a whole population. My best friends dad said one time there are a 100 million women in this country and you can't tell me there aren't any good women here. I agree but most of them are taken and the percentage of good women I would reckon is very low.

The people advising you not to generalize won't matter 10, 20 years into the future. It will just be you and the decisions you've made. The predictable conclusion of listening to those morons is aging into a bitter lonely man, sitting on a park bench wondering why you drank their kool-aid.

It's the same as people trying to expose the Jewish criminal network, and others telling them not to generalize because there are good Jews out there. Again, stupidity beyond comprehension, but you'd be surprised how many fall for that trap. The opinions of peers won't matter when the people of earth are effectively suddenly sitting under a mushroom cloud.

Keep your priorities in order and don't listen to detractors who don't have your interests at heart. Don't let them make you feel guilty when you're doing nothing wrong. Ever notice how this society exonerates and even celebrates people who should feel guilty, and vise versa?

[odbo]

Nobody is trying to 'suppress you'.

It's simple, people don't like generalizations being 'pushed' on them as supposed 'hard facts'.

In an Orwellian society, the truth is told in reverse.

Translated into plain English:

Everybody is trying to suppress you.

It's complicated, people love pushing generalizations as hard facts onto you, then claiming its wrong in defense.

Americans generalize "foreigners" and "abroad" like no other. Many only know several countries; Yurop, Russia, China, Africa, Irak, and Mexico.

OTB is not trying to push or convince anyone. It's the complete reverse. He's trying to express his observations, and since the people he is talking to are TOTALLY brainwashed Americans, they subconsciously act as deputized thought police. They sense a fellow sheep is "getting ideas", so they are instinctually forcing him back into the flock. Forget going abroad to see for yourself, even CONSIDERING going abroad is a thought crime and moral sin, in a society of obedient sheeple.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Another thing that stands out that I notice about a lot of the American broads is that a lot of them look like they drink or do drugs because you can tell from how their faces look. They have this run down, zombie look. Their skin doesn't look healthy. I see a lot of this in Walmart and even at work. There is something wrong with these women.

SPOT ON!

Many young good looking girls I know chain smoke and drink heavy on the weekends; I saw this as far back as high school when on the weekends my class mates would have keg parties in the middle of the woods.

I happen to run into one of these girls I knew from high school about a month ago, well she is only about 28 years old, but now she LOOKS about 40 with all this skin sagging around her neck like a turkey and her face is starting to shrivel up like a prune. WTH?! All this at ONLY 28 years young?!!!!

And right now I know 2 pretty young white girls but they are ruining themselves from all the drinking and smoking (one even boast about it). They have these boil looking red marks on their skin and face but try to cover it up with tons of makeup. It's very confusing because on one hand they are young and hot, but at the same time they have this run down and unhealthy look.

[NorthAmericanguy]

If you are very sensitive and take women very seriously, then yeah, you'll see those women as 'bad'. I don't have such a serious mindset, so those 'bad' women are fun women to hang out with for a man with a thick skin.

This is so true, and it's something I had to learn myself this past year, which is: Don't take women seriously.

[Disillusioned_American]

Sometimes I'll vent to people I know about the quality and selection of women here in the states. One thing they say is you can't generalize a whole population. My best friends dad said one time there are a 100 million women in this country and you can't tell me there aren't any good women here. I agree but most of them are taken and the percentage of good women I would reckon is very low.

You're not generalizing an entire population, you're merely observing the women in your environment, and making an honest evaluation of their behavior. Your peers or aquaintances probably aren't willing to commiserate with you over the desperate dating situation here in the US, because this kind of thinking would pose too much of a challenge to their narrow worldviews. Plus most of these people you're venting to could very well be too entrenched at this point into the US culture, and so when you point out the obvious iniquities and flaws in the social culture here, your friends feel threatened by this or by the fact that they, unlike you, lack the freedom to choose to move abroad. They are stuck in the Matrix.

The people advising you not to generalize won't matter 10, 20 years into the future. It will just be you and the decisions you've made. The predictable conclusion of listening to those morons is aging into a bitter lonely man, sitting on a park bench wondering why you drank their kool-aid...

Keep your priorities in order and don't listen to detractors who don't have your interests at heart. Don't let them make you feel guilty when you're doing nothing wrong. Ever notice how this society exonerates and even celebrates people who should feel guilty, and vise versa?

So f***ing true. Absolutely. If you're unsatisified with the lack of joy in your life, you can't depend on others, including family, to support any of your decisions or endeavors in your attempt to better your situation. Either they might not understand your motives, or they may try to sabotage your efforts out of envy, because they themselves are miserable, and have learned to adapt to the ways of the predatory social customs of the US.

[OTB]

@odbo

OTB is not trying to push or convince anyone.

THANK YOU odbo! I was just about to reply to that with the same words. Into The Wild get it straight man. It has nothing to do with trying to convince ANYONE. It doesn't matter to me one bit if someone disagrees with my views on AW. I just speak my mind based on experiences and observations. In this case my buddy's father, he understands my frustrations and why I feel the way I do but at the same time he says there are good women out there. I came to the conclusion that they just don't fit my personality. That's the problem. However, I would still give an American chick a chance provided she has some class and carries herself like a feminine woman. But that seems to be scarce. I'm always on the outlook for a quality woman.

@Into The Wild

Quit talking about it and get overseas and find that woman over there.

Getting overseas to stay for an extensive amount of time to find a wife is not so easy. I'm in the process of putting some things together to make that happen though.

[S_Parc]

Women like men that don't NEED them, men that got other shit going in their lives.

Interesting to note, this is the exact thing which has changed how AWs treat me, when I'm at home. They are intrinsically curious about me because I don't give a rat's about 'em.

I presume that by some twisted Yankee logic, I'm socially 'gay' but physically heterosexual.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Ah yes, Odbo, because I'm just so against guys going overseas You see a conspiracy in every corner.

I'm a Canadian, a quite world-aware one at that. I used to be one of you HappierAbroad guys years ago. When I first saw this site, the appeal was great.

I find the reality is a much more down to earth reality.

I see nothing wrong with meeting a woman in any country if it suits your preference.

What I DO have a problem with, and this is merely a suggestion, from a guy who has ACTUAL experience with women from different cultures, is to be careful, it is too easy to IDOLIZE these women.

That's why I make the reference to Winston being like Allah promising his virgins. Men salivating over the 'promise' of paradise. Nothing in this world is pure. Am I saying Filipinas or whatever won't be better for you than American as a group? No, but I'm saying is don't put them on too high of a pedestal either. American waaaay down here........ Russian/Filipina/whatever waaay up there. You get my drift?

I am telling you it is not good to FANTASIZE too much about this. If you like foreign women, make it happen, but don't put them on a pedestal either. This site can come dangerously close to that line.

American women don't find it attractive, and foreign women don't either. It is not attractive to be that stupid expat who berates American women while fawning over Filipinas or whatever. Filipinas aren't going to find that attractive if they find you're that kind of man.

So aside from Odbos paranoid ranting, this is merely a fair warning to keep things in perspective and not go overboard idolizing any women but American. I am saying this because when I first found this site, I was vulnerable to that, before I got REAL WORLD experience.

Expats who go to any of the favored countries for meeting women with a chip on their shoulder are definitely 'ugly expats'. Go overseas, but don't let guys like Winston and Odbo give you this corrupted 'angry expat' view of the world. There is much more beauty in the world than that.

Odbo can go on a paranoid rant about me and my 'ilk' as much as he wants, but I am just a man giving some advice based on what I've experienced on my journey of discovery. Women are WOMEN. Don't let any guy delude you about that. Also, don't take it TOO SERIOUSLY. Try to meet a wife if you want, but have FUN while doing it! Don't put too much pressure on it.

There is also a problem if you're wasting too much resources to go to the promised land. Don't spend your life savings just looking for a woman. That is a trap I think this site is gonna get lots of guys into. Women don't find it attractive when you're looking too hard for a woman.

Women like men that don't NEED them, men that got other shit going in their lives. That is the mistake Winston made. Don't repeat the mistake of so many guys and go SOLELY for finding a woman. It's setting yourself up for disappointment. It's an unhealthy promise on this web site. They're feeding you a lie.

Go overseas, but not with just the intent of wife seeking. Bad bad bad idea. Does Winston teach anything about THAT? I'm just saying keep a level head about it. I LOVE Asian chicks for one thing lol, but trust me, from experience, not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

All the bad shit you see in American women, you'll see it around the world to one extent or another, greater or lesser degrees. Don't fall into the black and white thinking that some men on this forum have. EXPECT difficult women
everywhere.

Agreed.

[odbo]

Ah yes, Odbo, because I'm just so against guys going overseas You see a conspiracy in every corner.

I'm a Canadian, a quite world-aware one at that. I used to be one of you HappierAbroad guys years ago. When I first saw this site, the appeal was great.

I find the reality is a much more down to earth reality.

I see nothing wrong with meeting a woman in any country if it suits your preference.

What I DO have a problem with, and this is merely a suggestion, from a guy who has ACTUAL experience with women from different cultures, is to be careful, it is too easy to IDOLIZE these women.

That's why I make the reference to Winston being like Allah promising his virgins. Men salivating over the 'promise' of paradise. Nothing in this world is pure. Am I saying Filipinas or whatever won't be better for you than American as a group? No, but I'm saying is don't put them on too high of a pedestal either. American waaaay down here........ Russian/Filipina/whatever waaay up there. You get my drift?

I am telling you it is not good to FANTASIZE too much about this. If you like foreign women, make it happen, but don't put them on a pedestal either. This site can come dangerously close to that line.

American women don't find it attractive, and foreign women don't either. It is not attractive to be that stupid expat who berates American women while fawning over Filipinas or whatever. Filipinas aren't going to find that attractive if they find you're that kind of man.

So aside from Odbos paranoid ranting, this is merely a fair warning to keep things in perspective and not go overboard idolizing any women but American. I am saying this because when I first found this site, I was vulnerable to that, before I got REAL WORLD experience.

Expats who go to any of the favored countries for meeting women with a chip on their shoulder are definitely 'ugly expats'. Go overseas, but don't let guys like Winston and Odbo give you this corrupted 'angry expat' view of the world. There is much more beauty in the world than that.

Odbo can go on a paranoid rant about me and my 'ilk' as much as he wants, but I am just a man giving some advice based on what I've experienced on my journey of discovery. Women are WOMEN. Don't let any guy delude you about that. Also, don't take it TOO SERIOUSLY. Try to meet a wife if you want, but have FUN while doing it! Don't put too much pressure on it.

There is also a problem if you're wasting too much resources to go to the promised land. Don't spend your life savings just looking for a woman. That is a trap I think this site is gonna get lots of guys into. Women don't find it attractive when you're looking too hard for a woman.

Women like men that don't NEED them, men that got other shit going in their lives. That is the mistake Winston made. Don't repeat the mistake of so many guys and go SOLELY for finding a woman. It's setting yourself up for disappointment. It's an unhealthy promise on this web site. They're feeding you a lie.

Go overseas, but not with just the intent of wife seeking. Bad bad bad idea. Does Winston teach anything about THAT? I'm just saying keep a level head about it. I LOVE Asian chicks for one thing lol, but trust me, from experience, not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

All the bad shit you see in American women, you'll see it around the world to one extent or another, greater or lesser degrees. Don't fall into the black and white thinking that some men on this forum have. EXPECT difficult women everywhere.

This example of shit writing and minced words is exactly what I'd expect in GQ, Men's Health, or any other conglomerate (Zionist) owned magazine whose writers are fellow closet-Jewish, closet-homosexuals (i.e. pick-up artist extraordinaires).

What I DO have a problem with, and this is merely a suggestion, from a guy who has ACTUAL experience with women from different cultures, is to be careful, it is too easy to IDOLIZE these women.

[odbo]

Ok paranoid schizo whatever you say. I just feel sorry for any guys who actually buy your crap. From the looks of it at least some do since you're a long time member here. Good thing PUA is pretty much the art of not giving a crap in various situations I can apply it in this particular situation.

..Petty insult, followed by complete denial and diversion of the subject matter (using another nonsensical insult), followed by display of superiority..

Wow that's impressive defamation!





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[Winston]

OTB,
Holy cow! Look at the post date of your first post above!

11 Dec 2011 11:11 pm

Wow you sure hit the jackpot with 1's! If this were a casino, you would have hit the grand jackpot with such a streak! LOL

[Winston]

Ah yes, Odbo, because I'm just so against guys going overseas You see a conspiracy in every corner.

I'm a Canadian, a quite world-aware one at that. I used to be one of you HappierAbroad guys years ago. When I first saw this site, the appeal was great.

I find the reality is a much more down to earth reality.

I see nothing wrong with meeting a woman in any country if it suits your preference.

What I DO have a problem with, and this is merely a suggestion, from a guy who has ACTUAL experience with women from different cultures, is to be careful, it is too easy to IDOLIZE these women.

That's why I make the reference to Winston being like Allah promising his virgins. Men salivating over the 'promise' of paradise. Nothing in this world is pure. Am I saying Filipinas or whatever won't be better for you than American as a group? No, but I'm saying is don't put them on too high of a pedestal either. American waaaay down here........ Russian/Filipina/whatever waaay up there. You get my drift?

I am telling you it is not good to FANTASIZE too much about this. If you like foreign women, make it happen, but don't put them on a pedestal either. This site can come dangerously close to that line.

American women don't find it attractive, and foreign women don't either. It is not attractive to be that stupid expat who berates American women while fawning over Filipinas or whatever. Filipinas aren't going to find that attractive if they find you're that kind of man.

So aside from Odbos paranoid ranting, this is merely a fair warning to keep things in perspective and not go overboard idolizing any women but American. I am saying this because when I first found this site, I was vulnerable to that, before I got REAL WORLD experience.

Expats who go to any of the favored countries for meeting women with a chip on their shoulder are definitely 'ugly expats'. Go overseas, but don't let guys like Winston and Odbo give you this corrupted 'angry expat' view of the world. There is much more beauty in the world than that.

Odbo can go on a paranoid rant about me and my 'ilk' as much as he wants, but I am just a man giving some advice based on what I've experienced on my journey of discovery. Women are WOMEN. Don't let any guy delude you about that. Also, don't take it TOO SERIOUSLY. Try to meet a wife if you want, but have FUN while doing it! Don't put too much pressure on it.

There is also a problem if you're wasting too much resources to go to the promised land. Don't spend your life savings just looking for a woman. That is a trap I think this site is gonna get lots of guys into. Women don't find it attractive when you're looking too hard for a woman.

Women like men that don't NEED them, men that got other shit going in their lives. That is the mistake Winston made. Don't repeat the mistake of so many guys and go SOLELY for finding a woman. It's setting yourself up for disappointment. It's an unhealthy promise on this web site. They're feeding you a lie.

Go overseas, but not with just the intent of wife seeking. Bad bad bad idea. Does Winston teach anything about THAT? I'm just saying keep a level head about it. I LOVE Asian chicks for one thing lol, but trust me, from experience, not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

All the bad shit you see in American women, you'll see it around the world to one extent or another, greater or lesser degrees. Don't fall into the black and white thinking that some men on this forum have. EXPECT difficult women everywhere.

You've got a lot of good points and what you say is true. However, you should not ignore all these VERY INSPIRING TRUE TESTIMONIALS AND ACCOUNTS EITHER:

http://www.happierabroad.com/testimonials.php
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page74b.htm

Have you read the many comments in the second link above? If you have, you would see that there is NO QUESTION at all that our claims here are true, to a very large extent.

Nothing is totally true or false. There are DEGREES of truth in each claim or observation or argument. It is true that we fall into the trap of black and white generalizing. But on the flip side, a lot of what we claim has been experienced and demonstrated to be true, evidenced by the changed lives and better experiences with women that people here have experienced. You can't deny that either. The content in the two links above are concrete proof of that.

[OTB]

@Winston

It actually says 11 Dec 2011 at 6:11pm. But I see what you were trying to point out. Now back to the topic.

[ErikHeaven]

I watched a video today on Youtube and some white woman posted a video where she talks about the many white women that she grew up with are now shagging worthless ghetto acting black males and how these women are talking ghetto and dressing like ghetto black women.
I also see women of all races here i know this one woman she is around 27 and she goes to Banks and Supermarkets damn near everywhere with pajamas on and big Bear slippers. She literally crawls out of bed without washing her body and goes shopping, and she is pretty as hell!
This nastiness has taken a hold of American women and i find many of them a complete turnoff. Also when you date them you quickly find out that MANY of them cannot cook or sew worth a lick (I know how to hem my pants or other basic repairs) neither can they do their own children's hair!
American women MANY not ALL are only good for sport shagging that is about it. And many men are starting to wake up to this reality.
Not only that the million pics that they post of themselves on Facebook showing off way too much skin with semi-nudity and drunken pics and pics with weed in their hands its no wonder why they age horribly. Plus all of the super whales that think they are so sexy.
AMERICA IS A DATING WASTELAND.
Last but not least it seems every other woman has a child from some loser guy that she is constantly whining about on Facebook.