How Important It Is To Have a Baby

[MrMan]

Someone posted a 90-Day Fiance video clip a while back about this older, short American man dating a Filippina single mother probably in her 20's. She'd told him she wanted to have a child or children. He didn't want any, but waiting until he'd given her gifts, flown out there, and if the show was editted in sequence, been rather physical with her, before telling her he didn't want kids.

That's something you've got to be up front about and on the same page with, especially with women from traditional cultures. I'll use Indonesia as an example, but I think it applies elsewhere.

Some of these women come from cultures where if you marry, you just have to have kids, and in some of those cultures, it is a strong cultural requirement to get married. The women from those cultures, typically, want to have kids. The cultures does not suppress the maternal instinct, but rather encourages it. It's not just women, either. Men want to have kids.

When I got married, I found out from others I worked with in Indonesia that it was the norm to have a baby the first year of marriage. A co-worker got married right after I did and he had a baby in the first year. My wife and I decided to wait too years and get to know each other. We wanted to adjust. Sure, I also wanted to enjoy the pre-baby body for a while and all that good stuff, along with the relationship and lifestyle aspects. The 'office boy' who was probably nearly 50 who hung out by the water cooler in the breakroom would ask me, 'Sudah diisi belum'-- Has it been filled or not, or Are there any contents or not? My co-workers told me he was asking if my wife was pregnant. After a while, people stopped asking, until I saw a co-worker who I hadn't seen for a while who asked if I had any 'good news.' I asked what she meant. She meant was my wife pregnant. I said 'no' then realized she was late, and maybe she was. She turned out to be. By that time, we were trying. We'd stopped using contraceptive liquid or foam. (Fortunately, my wife and I both hated condoms so we've probably only used a couple of dozen if that before we decided against using them.

My wife had an uncle, 'Uncle Policeman' who hadn't had children. We went to the DMV, and someone knew him and said something like this in Indonesian, "Her uncle is that childless guy who doesn't have any kids." in Indonesian. It's a stigma in their people-group not to have kids. Other people-groups might be the same way, but most of them are probably not to the same extent. The pre-Christian religion way back when had ancestor worship as part of it, apparently.

I think Filippinas are about the same way about having kids. If they haven't had them, they want them. If they say they don't, expect them to change their mind. That's probably a good rule of thumb for all women who get married. If they've had their babies already, they might not care, but the young ones typically want kids. The ones who don't may change their mind as their hormones change and the number of eggs dwindle.

[hypermak]

For what I know, it's exactly the same in the Philippines. Some Filipinas take this mentality one step further and are more interesting in being mothers than being wives. I think @MarcosZeitola mentioned experiencing something that is quite common over here: a young woman basically offering to have s*x with him just to get pregnant and have a "handsome white baby.".

Considering how many young men, especially those from the lower social classes, will not be loyal partners and will not take care of their kids when they get their girls pregnant, some of these women just grow cynical. They somehow get resigned to the possibility of raising their child or children alone, as a single mom. So, everything else being equal, they'd rather be blessed with a mestizo baby who "looks better".

[Cornfed]

For what I know, it's exactly the same in the Philippines. Some Filipinas take this mentality one step further and are more interesting in being mothers than being wives. I think @MarcosZeitola mentioned experiencing something that is quite common over here: a young woman basically offering to have s*x with him just to get pregnant and have a "handsome white baby.".

Maybe if there is a break in the covid nonsense I should take a trip to the Phillipines.

[hypermak]

Maybe if there is a break in the covid nonsense I should take a trip to the Phillipines.

At this moment it's practically impossible for a foreigner to (re-)enter the country and for a Filipino to leave. Truly awful situation...

Out of curiosity: have you ever visited the Philippines? Maybe a sweet Filipina would smoothen up some of your edges

[Cornfed]

Out of curiosity: have you ever visited the Philippines? Maybe a sweet Filipina would smoothen up some of your edges

No I haven't, but Asian chicks in general seem to like me. Of course that was a few years ago now.

[hypermak]

Out of curiosity: have you ever visited the Philippines? Maybe a sweet Filipina would smoothen up some of your edges

No I haven't, but Asian chicks in general seem to like me. Of course that was a few years ago now.

Not to offend but, as I told some other posters here, I see evidence of Filipinas being quite picky, if they are horny and looking for casual sex. However if you are serious relationship minded, I don't think your age would make much of a difference. You will find your sweet young Filipina that will give you back a sense of masculine authority and satisfaction. That was my experience and that of countless people I know, at least

[Spencer]

Out of curiosity: have you ever visited the Philippines? Maybe a sweet Filipina would smoothen up some of your edges

No I haven't, but Asian chicks in general seem to like me. Of course that was a few years ago now.

Not to offend but, as I told some other posters here, I see evidence of Filipinas being quite picky, if they are horny and looking for casual sex. However if you are serious relationship minded, I don't think your age would make much of a difference. You will find your sweet young Filipina that will give you back a sense of masculine authority and satisfaction. That was my experience and that of countless people I know, at least

So you the superman sleep 10 girly phlipin because you 30 expat fatcat chefman in wetdreams you so so try decieve aborder on forum even maybe try self deceptions but realtylife bite you washup crusty ole italyman

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but we see so so many phlipin girl also happy abord all over the flat earth so why o why you not go the social media find phlipin girl of auklan and network round home cuntry for see and maybe have so many chance for you healthyman apearance youngman same 30s forso easy asia girl like so long you drop death racialist hate rantings and go back charmer days you stay korea for not forget the marcoman needle of haystack and most philpin expat on same conditioning of the duende or even worst for wear

if you read between line hapy abord forum posting we see korea girl most dificulty asia nut for crack like vid game 8 or 9 out 10 so when go for phlipin girl level fall so way down especialment poverty province girl so even you not big moneyman ok you good genetic healthful look young purity whiteman for this darky girl love maybe yelowgirl even like since before you rockstardom in korea so go try post rinse repeat to break out cynic paterns for second life spring and sho the contarian you can do beter than he by get the freeby girlys

[hypermak]

So you the superman sleep 10 girly phlipin because you 30 expat fatcat chefman in wetdreams you so so try decieve aborder on forum even maybe try self deceptions but realtylife bite you washup crusty ole italyman

cornfed if you make so good korea girlys of 2010 then so so bet if everso phlipin returning for 2019 style full of overhill duende typing expaters in poverty province mix in 1 percenter youngjo marcoman then make big bet that easy peasy for you if ever you get foot on grounding philipin but for nowso we hardput for knowing the post covid lifing anywhere everywhere for we see even the mark dream conection go from cant downloading wife to pay 2 thousand and 500 then can dating mating on vid calling so beter for be sure preparing 3d gogles and masterbate gagtry for it so might that you dating the phlipin girl stay poverty province from basement new zeelan home

but we see so so many phlipin girl also happy abord all over the flat earth so why o why you not go the social media find phlipin girl of auklan and network round home cuntry for see and maybe have so many chance for you healthyman apearance youngman same 30s forso easy asia girl like so long you drop death racialist hate rantings and go back charmer days you stay korea for not forget the marcoman needle of haystack and most philpin expat on same conditioning of the duende or even worst for wear

if you read between line hapy abord forum posting we see korea girl most dificulty asia nut for crack like vid game 8 or 9 out 10 so when go for phlipin girl level fall so way down especialment poverty province girl so even you not big moneyman ok you good genetic healthful look young purity whiteman for this darky girl love maybe yelowgirl even like since before you rockstardom in korea so go try post rinse repeat to break out cynic paterns for second life spring and sho the contarian you can do beter than he by get the freeby girlys

Don't you have girls to f*ck in Kyiv, Shawn? Still wasting your time with the pointless trolling?

[Cornfed]

Don't you have girls to f*ck in Kyiv, Shawn?

Maybe he has finally run out of money to pay them.

[Spencer]

Don't you have girls to f*ck in Kyiv, Shawn?

Maybe he has finally run out of money to pay them.

Mybe living roun train stations and good for minstrel busking get chump changes for hot doggy and cheapy beer then hang outside club 5 am see if can fool drunk skunk skank for cheapy photo ops for pretend be macdady

[MarcosZeitola]

For what I know, it's exactly the same in the Philippines. Some Filipinas take this mentality one step further and are more interesting in being mothers than being wives. I think @MarcosZeitola mentioned experiencing something that is quite common over here: a young woman basically offering to have s*x with him just to get pregnant and have a "handsome white baby.".

Considering how many young men, especially those from the lower social classes, will not be loyal partners and will not take care of their kids when they get their girls pregnant, some of these women just grow cynical. They somehow get resigned to the possibility of raising their child or children alone, as a single mom. So, everything else being equal, they'd rather be blessed with a mestizo baby who "looks better".

Very true. A thing often seen in the Philippines, but not limited to the country; I've had a white, blonde Dutch woman make me the same request when I was twenty. I agreed, and fathered three children by this woman, next to the ones I have with Mrs. Zeitola. My genes must be in demand globally.

As for the main topic of this post, sure enough @MrMan is right and women typically want children. Either they are open about this desire, and aware of it, or they are in denial or simply unaware and it will pop up later. This 'maternal urge'. There are women who are lacking the desire to procreate, of course. But they are almost always broken in some way, typically came from dysfunctional families, had a shitty or traumatic upbringing, and are understandably frightened of passing this along.

Pretty much every single 'good' and worthwhile woman, free of baggage, will want a child or children sooner or later. A woman absolutely not wanting them is usually a sign of trauma. A red flag, to be avoided if possible.