tamdrin12 wrote:The intent of my post was mainly to suggest that although.. yes there may be some benefits to being white in Asia,, we have to question if these really are benefits at all? I mean first of all its unnatural and a farely recent phenomenon that we have to travel across the world to find girls at all. Is this really an advantage??
Second, although the local women may hold western men in certain esteem or have some idea in their mind about them.. How much of this is based in reality? Do you really want to be compared to Hollywood stars? This seems unrealistic and could very easily lead to a let down after the reality sets in for the Asian women... Many marriages lead sour once the reality of major cultural differences set in. We have to be as realistic as possible with our partners.. show them who we really are and then see if they are still interested.. That is the test..
My third point is that Asian men in Asia don't seem to have that hard of a time attracting good quality and good looking women even if they are ordinary Joe's. They know the culture.. they know the way the women think over there.. and they also know that their cultural paradigm will support them in finding love to a certain extent. We men in America don't get any aid from a positive cultural paradigm..
So in conclusion.. yes being a foreigner may help you meet women and get some attention in Asia.. but it is a matter for further reflection if we really have any advantage over local men... I suspect in some ways.. in fact we might be at disadvantage to a certain extent.
The questions you ask are quit similar to those i've had during my numerous Thailand trips and these are not so uncommon for guys who escape there.
The main problem is not Asian men having the advantage,bar girls,good girls and so on.
The main problem is having to go back where you want to f u ck off.
It's a distressful situation when you met nice women abroad and you have to come back to the desert.
That's where some questions can arise..this also put you in a situation where you can easily be a sponsor because you are very lonely at home and you don't connect anymore with the society.
I mean,if we,i put my friends in the list,have the money to sustain ourselves in SEA,i can assure that many questions would be solved.
Still,Thailand is very different when it come to relations.
You can't transpose the meaning of love from a western point to there.
Love for a poor Thai women mean you will have to take care of her parents first.
Where is exactly the limit where you are only an ATM to what is normal to do without being played?
It has being an adventurous place Thailand for me but the overall results are very positive.
At least i enjoyed the life..and my friends says the same things.
I know some old guys too who are the typical ATM but actually they prefer to be that,than dying alone in front of the TV with a dog.
I just understand the questions you are wondering..anyways there are not dozens of possiblity.
Either continuing going there or accepting the rules back home.
Now for me,i have stated on my previous posts,i get to even surpass this problematic because i'm quitting the Western countries and their women.
I don't care as much as before where i asked myself what position i have really in Thailand as a Western man.
Thai men have it better,good for them,Thai men have it worst,sad for them but i know i'm having a good time so that what counts.
I don't loose my time to compare myself to them.
I don't put anymore pressure to build something in Thailand,to enter in a more serious relationship..this matter is not on the table anymore.
I'm going to Panama,having already many family,the passeport,speaking Spanish so this time i have a very good chance to really get away.
I won't be anymore in the position of the Western guy who is enduring feminism,loneliness,the man culprit stigma.
With this equation,i'm more in charge to hand all the problematics you stated and the risk to be only an ATM in SEA because i will be already in a country where i won't suffer of loneliness,lack of opportunity to find a nice woman,lack of positive energy from the society in general.
I'm not the guy who needs to rapidly escape to Thailand because where i came from it's an affective,sexual wasteland and that change it all..it change things the same way the first time i went to Thailand and found i was not condemned to deal with only women at home.