Property Rights In The U.S. To Be Usurped

[Taco]

What has occurred in Montana has set the precedent for all private property rights in the U.S. to be strategically usurped. They have stripped the people of Montana of their rights to own a well without being regulated; they now have the “right” to enter your property and do as they please.

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[Cornfed]

Then again, the concept of private property is arguably an oxymoron, and private property in terms of real estate was arguably abolished by William of Normandy in 1066, but that is another discussion.

[Ghost]

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[Moretorque]

When were property taxes started here in the US ?

[Rock]

Property rights in the U.S. have not existed at least since the start of property taxes. No one in the U.S. is allowed to truly own their land, and therefore cannot own their own homes. Third world may not have much, but they at least own their little plots.

Very good point and I was thinking along same lines. Residential town and city property taxes in USA typically run around 2% of market value per annum but can vary from 0.5% to as high as 7% or more depending on various factors. If you don't pay those taxes, your equity will be quickly eroded. Owe IRS? They too can grab your property.

Many other countries I've checked out have property taxes too. But they are just a fragment of USA levels. Taxes are usually levied mainly when property is sold to a new party. If say you own a condo in Thailand, you don't have to pay anything to the government. There's only a tax when you sell the property to a new party. I'm not sure whether or not any tax is levied when you die and pass it on to your heirs though.

Now farmland in USA is also taxed at much lower rate. But it's still taxed.

For an individual to truly own property, there would be zero property taxes levied at federal, state, or local level. Property ownership in USA is largely an illusion. There are many good arguments for being a permanent renter.

[Taco]

Property rights in the U.S. have not existed at least since the start of property taxes. No one in the U.S. is allowed to truly own their land, and therefore cannot own their own homes. Third world may not have much, but they at least own their little plots.

Property ownership in USA is largely an illusion. There are many good arguments for being a permanent renter.

In America, property taxes and rent are the same thing. That's something no one ever tells you.

[Moretorque]

So where do you go to get away from he parasitic state ?

[Jester]

So where do you go to get away from he parasitic state ?

Mexico has very low property tax.

I think Guatemela does too.

Lebanon used to, plus occasional amnesties, plus no enforcement until sale of the property.

Generally Latin America is pretty good on this. Don't know where else. Interesting topic for those who want to settle, raise a family, and own land.

[Taco]

So where do you go to get away from he parasitic state ?

You can buy a house boat and park it down at your local marina, assuming you live beside the ocean. If the marina starts charging you too much "rent" you can set sail to another marina, state or country.

[Wolfeye]

So William of Normandy created feudalism?

[eurobrat]

So where do you go to get away from he parasitic state ?

Mexico has very low property tax.

I think Guatemela does too.

Lebanon used to, plus occasional amnesties, plus no enforcement until sale of the property.

Generally Latin America is pretty good on this. Don't know where else. Interesting topic for those who want to settle, raise a family, and own land.

Africa you can buy plots of land for cheap and build a house.

[Wolfeye]

You know, that actually hadn't occured to me? Don't know how well a white man would do down there, though. Not saying there's a universal hatred, but it might be that any problems that DO happen tend to be steered in your direction & it might be that you're kind of on unofficially thin ice to begin with.

[Rock]

So where do you go to get away from he parasitic state ?

Mexico has very low property tax.

I think Guatemela does too.

Lebanon used to, plus occasional amnesties, plus no enforcement until sale of the property.

Generally Latin America is pretty good on this. Don't know where else. Interesting topic for those who want to settle, raise a family, and own land.

Africa you can buy plots of land for cheap and build a house.

You mean like in Zimbabwe...

[Teal Lantern]

Africa you can buy plots of land for cheap and build a house.

You mean like in Zimbabwe...

Kenya is building a good economy out of inviting former Zim and South African farmers in.

[Rock]

Africa you can buy plots of land for cheap and build a house.

You mean like in Zimbabwe...

Kenya is building a good economy out of inviting former Zim and South African farmers in.

In the last 10 years Kenya has had bouts of violent inter ethnic fighting and don't forget the slaughter which happened in a popular Nairobi shopping mall just a few years ago or a similar incident recently near the Somalian border. In general, Kenya is very high on the crime, violence, and corruption scale. I have a Kenyan acquaintance here in Philippines who told me he liked Uganda a lot better cus it's safer and more peaceful. He lived a few years in Kampala.