yick wrote: ↑September 15th, 2020, 3:57 am
They don't hate 'nice guys' if you are naturally a nice guy, what women do is take advantage of men who do nice things for them - like expect them to pick them up from the airport at 2 am - these women know that the man in question is in love with them but will string out favours and attention off them until the chump... sorry, nice guy plucks the courage to make their feelings known and then they're history, if the woman is a particularly nasty person then she will kind of fob him off but keep hope alive for him... a really nasty trick that most men go through when we start out on this journey.
The reason why 'nice guys' don't get anywhere because for the most part it is an act to get into that particular womans panties and the woman knows this - the man isn't a nice man for the most part - if he is, he will find his soulmate in a nice girl and can see he is a nice person just like she is. God looks out for truly nice people in the shark infested seas called 'love'.
Most 'nice guys' aren't nice, in fact 'nice guy' is a euphemism for 'sucker' but one who is too dumb or too far gone to realise he is being played.
The only thing ANY man can do and his only weapon is to walk away. It takes a bit of practice to do this and to get good at it but you do it once or twice and then it becomes real easy! If they are trying to qualify you then why don't you do it to them? Most women are f***ing boring, most women haven't got anything of value of say, most women are mediocre and tossers (just like most men...) don't justify yourself to her, call her out! Why not!
Don't confuse a 'nice guy' with a man with decency - they're completely different. One is an act and one isn't. Nice guys are always gonna get flamed and burned, men with decency won't get flamed and burned anymore than the jerkoff. Hope that helps!
Great points Yick. I've been that kind of a "nice guy" you describe. But the thing is, people tell me that if a woman is using you, that if you stand up to them and refuse to let them use you, it makes you more strong and manly and they will respect you for it. But that's not true. When I stand up to a woman who wants to use me, they usually dump me and get moody and tell me I did something wrong and try to SHAME me by saying "I understand why women reject you know" but refuse to elaborate on what she means, etc.
I hate it when women get moody and act like you did something wrong but won't explain exactly what. Seems like a mind game and shaming tactic. Don't you guys hate that? Have any of you experienced that too? Why do they do that? If I feel someone did something wrong I would be glad to explain to them why. Not act like it's a secret or something.
The thing is, when I stand up to women and refuse to let them treat me badly, they don't respect me for it or see me as more manly. They just dump me and that's it.
I do agree with you that truly good men attract truly good women. Like attracts like. Thus only bad girls ike bad boys. Truly nice girls do not. That's what all these stupid internet articles miss. The girls that like bad boys are bad girls themselves. If they were like the good girls in the TV Show "Little House on the Prairie" they would never go for bad boys, ever.
Traditional feminine women have always liked good men with good moral values and strength. But love is subjective and unpredictable though, it's not based on any logic.
Btw Yick. How do you know when a woman really likes you as opposed to is using you? What are the signs and indicators?
So UK women do that too? I can't imagine. Usually UK women are very down to earth and have values and will return gifts from men she rejects, not take them. They seem to have good principles. But you make them sound like American women. WTF?