I'm preparing for a life alone.

[Tamingstrange]

I honestly don't think going abroad is going to help me. I believe women everywhere, Europe, Asia, South America, will all be the same as AW. I've just come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, I'm not meant to have a girlfriend, wife or even one night stands. The only way for me to be with a woman is to pay for it. I've p4p on five times over the years. It seems to be my only option.

[MarcosZeitola]

Your defeatism is pathetic brother. I don't know just how hideous you are, how bad your social skills are, how crippling your shyness, but no matter how bad things get there's always a way. Getting laid isn't the world's most daunting task, and getting a wife is even easier in some conservative circles; you just got to be able to bring something to the table. And by something, I mean anything.

Women are not "the same everywhere", that's nonsense. Women, like men, are shaped by the culture they grow up in. So if they grow up in a culture that is highly materialistic, hypergamous, shallow and superficial... well, that's the type of women you're most likely to get. But if you go to a place in this world where women still behave like women, things just get easier. The whole fishing pond is suddenly different, and you catch different fish there. Believe me when I tell you, those places still exist. And even though these places are often in decline and modernity slowly finds its way there, it's still not too late for you to do a little fishing there.

Bottom line: don't give up. Don't embrace this sad, fatalist approach to life. Even if you never find "true love" or any sort of fairy tale ending, you at least got to reach a point where you can say: "I have had sex with a woman I didn't pay". At least just once, you have to reach that point. Because what sort of life would it be, if you could never say that? If you never experienced, what other men experience for free on the daily? Don't settle for less then your birth right as a man.

[Yohan]

Even if you never find "true love" or any sort of fairy tale ending, you at least got to reach a point where you can say: "I have had sex with a woman I didn't pay". At least just once, you have to reach that point. Because what sort of life would it be, if you could never say that? If you never experienced, what other men experience for free on the daily? Don't settle for less then your birth right as a man.

Marcos, I do not think there is anything for free, regardless if this is a paid girl for short-time, a girlfriend who comes with you for a while and of course it's not for free if you are married - even if this girl has the best intention. It's never 'for free'.

Money is almost always moving from men to women and rarely in the opposite direction.

About myself, I never met a Western woman in my life who was not asking for financial favors within her 2nd or 3rd sentence when talking to her. Needless to say that all of them had already plenty of boyfriends and were very choosy and materialistic and often looking for marriage followed by a lucrative divorce.

Dating in Western countries is also difficult, where can you look around? Dating on the workplace is very risky, if something is going wrong other co-workers will make fun out of you or in case of a dispute you will be fired, you - the man and never the girl.

I still have a few Western friends in Europe and ALL of them are now divorced and some of them are financially rather poor off paying for the ex-wife and children they never see a huge amount of money over decades, some of them lost their home..

If you prefer to continue to live in Western countries, to remain single as a young man without any relationship to a female is maybe a good advice.

[Yohan]

I honestly don't think going abroad is going to help me.
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The only way for me to be with a woman is to pay for it. I've p4p on five times over the years. It seems to be my only option.

There is nothing really wrong with paying a woman for sex or using other sources like pornography to satisfy your sexual desire at least for a short while.

However I do not think that this is a good permanent solution.

You are likely from the US and have never been beyond the borders of this large country.

I can only recommend you, if you can save up some money and if you are not too much into race issues to get on an airplane and to explore the world outside of Western countries. If something works out for you, that's fine - and if not you still had a nice vacation.

The world is not everywhere the same, and I think going abroad will help you.

[MrMan]

I honestly don't think going abroad is going to help me. I believe women everywhere, Europe, Asia, South America, will all be the same as AW. I've just come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, I'm not meant to have a girlfriend, wife or even one night stands. The only way for me to be with a woman is to pay for it. I've p4p on five times over the years. It seems to be my only option.

Have you got any female friends or a brutally honest relative who isn't your mother? Ask them if you are good-looking or okay looking.

Look at some of the married people around you? Are they all good-looking? Plain, regular-looking people get married. Ugly-looking people get married. Fat people get married. It's not that impossible.

Prostitution is a really, really sad thing. Paying to have sex with a woman whose had sex with hundreds or thousands of guys, it must be so empty. I've never done it. (I've only had sex with my wife.) It must be very lacking on the emotional side. I could imagine the first time, the physical aspect of it and maybe even the emotional aspect might feel good to a man, even though it is sin. But it' not the same as being with a woman who lvoes you.

And there are a lot of women out there looking for a man to marry. Rather than to have no one, wouldn't you be better off with a plain or hefty woman who is a caring person? Wouldn't it be better than a prostitute? (One could always turn out the lights.)

I didn't have such a pessimistic attitude. I just kind of knew one day I would get married, but just didn't know who. I didn't date in high school and didn't really date hardly at all in college. I started when I got out of school. As a Christian, I wanted someone who was serious about her faith. And I was particular about looks. I wanted to date someone good-looking enough to marry, too, in addition to the spiritual and personality issues. If I was going to be with a woman for life, I wanted a pretty one. And she had to have the right values. I did date a bit in my 20's. Not that much. I was looking, but not really dating. Finally, I met my wife, and married her in my late 20's.

So if you haven't had a girlfriend, some of us guys who didn't date and have girlfriends in school end up married. In my case, I'd say my wife was a 9+ when I met her and probably still a 9+ for her age. She's passed the big four- oh now, but she looks to be in her 30's, still thin, still pretty. She looks better for her age than I do for mine, honestly, even after giving birth to all our kids.

And, me, a guy who didn't date in high school and sorta kinda didn't really date in college (questionable whether that was dating or not), and didn't have a girlfriend, I ended up with a pretty woman.

As far as the sexual side of life goes, it's better to marry a decent woman who has some good values when it comes to sex and marriage. I was a virgin when I got married. I married a virgin. We are both Christians and have morals in common. And we both believe we are supposed to meet each others sexual needs. For me as a young man in my 20's, that meant something just about every night. We both got sick that year so it wasn't literally every night, and she had her cycle, so I said, 'something.' It's not quite that now in my 40's because people in their 40's don't always feel quite as well after a hard day out and about as younger people do, but it sounds like the quantity is exponentially more than what you are talking about. Emotionally, it has go to be a lot better to be with a wife who loves you.

You may feel lonely, but there are millions and millions of women all around the world longing for some man to come along and marry them. There are lonely girls giving up on the idea of having a husband out there. And some percentage of them, maybe small in the US, maybe not as small as you think, would actually make reasonably decent wives for some man.

[gsjackson]

It's hard to imagine any more cognitive dissonance than the juxtaposition of your defeatism with the attitude implied by your posting name. And it's hard to imagine any more repellent attitudes to women than these two. It all starts with attitude.

[Eric]

Im beginning to feel like giving up, also. It doesn't matter how attractive or how many assets you have - in the western world, all men face these same problems. The women are infected, INFECTED, with this obnoxious....hypergamous, power-tripping attitude that doesn't allow them to find a good man.
If they could just lose their self-defeating proud attitudes. This is making it so hard for men everywhere. They are just so proud... they want to have the upper- hand. Even when they know it's not in their favor or the favor of the guy who is being nice to them, who is more than fair.
A lot of what Adama says about women is correct, disgustingly.
The worst is when women look at you right in front of her bf, just to f**k with you. They are such sly things as snakes...with the mentality.


I don't blame guys that go the misogyny route, as it's perfectly understandable... although I don't want to go that way - it doesn't feel good to me, I'd rather have something better.
The way most young women act is completely disgusting. They are such vicious, power hungry manipulative soulless beings.


I'm growing very sick of it... I'm tired of being around trash and losing my temper. I'm starting to get desperate.

[Cornfed]

In terms of having a wife or girlfriend in the West, the time has finally come to admit that you can't, at least if you want her to be under 50.

[Eric]

Yeah - am seriously starting to think that. There is something very wrong with how a majority of them act, they don't have to make it that hard, but they do just for hell of it - for power, I'm convinced... it's like they've got a chip on the shoulder.


It's terrible.

[mand38]

I honestly don't think going abroad is going to help me. I believe women everywhere, Europe, Asia, South America, will all be the same as AW. I've just come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, I'm not meant to have a girlfriend, wife or even one night stands. The only way for me to be with a woman is to pay for it. I've p4p on five times over the years. It seems to be my only option.

Well I m think that you are "overreacting", there good and honest women outher but we (men) usually don't have enoght patience to find them. Or, we don't look at women who are not "hot" for our perception and usually such wwomen have greatest soul. So my advice to you is to just "keep walking" with opned eyes and you will find some good women sooner or later...

[yick]

I honestly don't think going abroad is going to help me. I believe women everywhere, Europe, Asia, South America, will all be the same as AW. I've just come to the conclusion that for whatever reason, I'm not meant to have a girlfriend, wife or even one night stands. The only way for me to be with a woman is to pay for it. I've p4p on five times over the years. It seems to be my only option.

It took me twenty years to become an attractive man, it took me that long on how to win friends and influence people, the power of listening and not interrupting, smelling nice and what aftershaves to wear, what clothes suit me, exercise regimes that are good for both my body and mind.

Other things as well as reject racism, sexism, homophobia, blame and envy, if 'chad thundercock' gets more women than me and they like him more than me, so what? That is no excuse not to keep getting up every day and making the best of yourself. I would never want to be anyone else other than me, I like being me, but it took years of self-improvement to get to that stage and now I love my life, abroad. And enough pretty, cute and sometimes even beautiful women - like me, it makes life good, worth getting up in the morning for, that's for sure.

I was once where you was, to think that with the billions of women in the world you aren't able to get ONE. It is ridiculous, do you think Flavio Briatone thinks like that and that guy is ugly (albeit rich...)

Go and find the woman you want, go to Africa, go to Russia, go to Vietnam - work a job and save money, go and train like a demon, lose weight, build yourself up, learn a language, take up a sport - make yourself a more viable proposition, go out every day in nice clean clothes and you smell nice. Just don't lie on the ground whimpering in defeat like a whipped dog.

Rise up and be a man and make a plan! All us free men are allowed to form and hatch plans and then carry them out! I have took up discus throwing, it's a great hobby, the national record of the country I have citizenship of is 58 meters, it's achievable and if it isn't by me, then at least I have got something to look forward to! A goal to beat! And no-one can stop me from having a go!

Fight for what you want! Make it happen, even if it takes years! It took me many years! Because in the end that is how long it had to take! My best years are now and I am happy to have them! Not everyone has their salad days in their twenties!

You want to go to Colombia, Russia or the Philippines or wherever else, make a two year plan, get a job, start exercising and stop worrying about things you can't change like your height!

[HappyGuy]

Being ugly : My Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5nOEJtrYA

Being Ugly 2020 update (what have changed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=899nvhqTB8I

The Real Life 40-Year-Old Virgin (UK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMobbyD8Z7s

[Man With a Plan]

You "men" need to realise that women don't owe you anything. Once you do, you'll be much happier.

[Berg]

I don't accuse folks that go the sexism course, as it's entirely justifiable... albeit I would prefer not to go that way - it doesn't feel great to me, I'd preferably have something better.

The manner in which most young ladies act is totally appalling. They are such horrible, power hungry manipulative callous creatures.

[SilverEnergy]

How do you know that women are the same everywhere when you haven't even went abroad yet?