When you realise you're going to die

[Cornfed]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? It is of course your own fault for being dumb enough to take the jab, but if you are to get any revenge on those who put poisoned candy in the hands of babies like you, now would be the time to plan.

[HouseMD]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? It is of course your own fault for being dumb enough to take the jab, but if you are to get any revenge on those who put poisoned candy in the hands of babies like you, now would be the time to plan.

Better question, what will you do when you realize that you have, once again, fallen for conspiratorial BS that hasn't come to pass?

We're all on borrowed time, such is life. You waste yours on angst and nonsense

[Gali]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? It is of course your own fault for being dumb enough to take the jab, but if you are to get any revenge on those who put poisoned candy in the hands of babies like you, now would be the time to plan.

Better question, what will you do when you realize that you have, once again, fallen for conspiratorial BS that hasn't come to pass?

We're all on borrowed time, such is life. You waste yours on angst and nonsense

He will find another one. It is an addiction.

[publicduende]

Better question, what will you do when you realize that you have, once again, fallen for conspiratorial BS that hasn't come to pass?

We're all on borrowed time, such is life. You waste yours on angst and nonsense

@HouseMD

I think @Cornfed is often paranoid in his statements. He is right, though, to criticise, or pity, even, those who gave up one of their most essential freedoms - freedom of therapeutic choice - for fear of being ostracised as "the unvaccinated", label as "uncollaborative", "insensitive", and "fascist".

If people had enough time and intellectual zest to go beyond the ongoing narrative, they would learn enough to be very skeptical, if not afraid, of getting multiple state jabs, especially if

1) they are not in the age group at risk (> 60) and
2) they jump on the vaccine bandwagon late, when Covid is essentially no longer a real threat.

[Cornfed]

We're all on borrowed time, such is life.

Better to let your killers take that outlook when you avenge yourself on them rather than take it yourself.

[Moretorque]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? It is of course your own fault for being dumb enough to take the jab, but if you are to get any revenge on those who put poisoned candy in the hands of babies like you, now would be the time to plan.

It doesen't seem they are all poison but as House said years ago the vaccine route is the perfect way to jack the population. House you were right, what do you think about what is going on.

This is depopulation by the trillionaire class..

[HouseMD]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? It is of course your own fault for being dumb enough to take the jab, but if you are to get any revenge on those who put poisoned candy in the hands of babies like you, now would be the time to plan.

It doesen't seem they are all poison but as House said years ago the vaccine route is the perfect way to jack the population. House you were right, what do you think about what is going on.

This is depopulation by the trillionaire class..

I think the problem is that people think depopulation is a useful strategy. More desperate people give you more power, and birth rates in the hardest to control countries are already below replacement while the ones in more docile nations are extremely high. I believe the future is going to be very different than most imagine, and will instead be a place where higher populations are used to fuel dangerous and deadly space exploration, mining, and colonization projects. Earth will be inhabited by the wealthy and powerful with a population of those that serve them and support their supply chains and infrastructure, while the masses will be relegated to places barely hospitable for life, both on and offworld. The wealthy will relocate to the least climate impacted areas of the globe where water is plentiful and unrest is low, such as North America, while the masses largely exist in the Global South. And the great thing about sending people to space? As far as we can tell, they can't breed, so the whole project has built-in population control.

As to vaccinations, what I proposed was that a government could vaccinate those they deem worthy and then release a contagion against everyone else that they have no defense against. The problem with killer vaccines is that they only wipe out the easy to control, leaving a population that consists entirely of those that are challenging to manage and are likely to revolt. You want to do it the other way around- keep the docile around, and wipe out those with the tendency for resistance. As the tendency to be rebellious seems to be highly heritable, if you do a cycle of this once every generation you can wipe out the genes tied to resistance and have a population that does as you please.

[publicduende]

I think the problem is that people think depopulation is a useful strategy. More desperate people give you more power, and birth rates in the hardest to control countries are already below replacement while the ones in more docile nations are extremely high. I believe the future is going to be very different than most imagine, and will instead be a place where higher populations are used to fuel dangerous and deadly space exploration, mining, and colonization projects. Earth will be inhabited by the wealthy and powerful with a population of those that serve them and support their supply chains and infrastructure, while the masses will be relegated to places barely hospitable for life, both on and offworld. The wealthy will relocate to the least climate impacted areas of the globe where water is plentiful and unrest is low, such as North America, while the masses largely exist in the Global South. And the great thing about sending people to space? As far as we can tell, they can't breed, so the whole project has built-in population control.

As to vaccinations, what I proposed was that a government could vaccinate those they deem worthy and then release a contagion against everyone else that they have no defense against. The problem with killer vaccines is that they only wipe out the easy to control, leaving a population that consists entirely of those that are challenging to manage and are likely to revolt. You want to do it the other way around- keep the docile around, and wipe out those with the tendency for resistance. As the tendency to be rebellious seems to be highly heritable, if you do a cycle of this once every generation you can wipe out the genes tied to resistance and have a population that does as you please.

Interesting take as most of the sci-fi tropes assume some sort of beyond-Earth oasis of peace and high-tech, a-la Elysium, for the wealthy elite.

Before we get to intergalactic travel for the hybernated few, there are already mega-yacths under construction that replicate entire portions of a city, like this one



As for the vaccines, if the Great Reset agenda really is the elimination of at least 75% of the world population, it won't matter much who is left and what ideology they align to (pro-vax, no-vax libertarian, etc.). Once faced with poverty and starvation, they will easily bend to whatever activities the elites have for them. Only a tiny "army of the brave", well-equipped, well-trained and well-motivated, might survive outside the new cast system.

[HouseMD]

I think the problem is that people think depopulation is a useful strategy. More desperate people give you more power, and birth rates in the hardest to control countries are already below replacement while the ones in more docile nations are extremely high. I believe the future is going to be very different than most imagine, and will instead be a place where higher populations are used to fuel dangerous and deadly space exploration, mining, and colonization projects. Earth will be inhabited by the wealthy and powerful with a population of those that serve them and support their supply chains and infrastructure, while the masses will be relegated to places barely hospitable for life, both on and offworld. The wealthy will relocate to the least climate impacted areas of the globe where water is plentiful and unrest is low, such as North America, while the masses largely exist in the Global South. And the great thing about sending people to space? As far as we can tell, they can't breed, so the whole project has built-in population control.

As to vaccinations, what I proposed was that a government could vaccinate those they deem worthy and then release a contagion against everyone else that they have no defense against. The problem with killer vaccines is that they only wipe out the easy to control, leaving a population that consists entirely of those that are challenging to manage and are likely to revolt. You want to do it the other way around- keep the docile around, and wipe out those with the tendency for resistance. As the tendency to be rebellious seems to be highly heritable, if you do a cycle of this once every generation you can wipe out the genes tied to resistance and have a population that does as you please.

Interesting take as most of the sci-fi tropes assume some sort of beyond-Earth oasis of peace and high-tech, a-la Elysium, for the wealthy elite.

Before we get to intergalactic travel for the hybernated few, there are already mega-yacths under construction that replicate entire portions of a city, like this one



As for the vaccines, if the Great Reset agenda really is the elimination of at least 75% of the world population, it won't matter much who is left and what ideology they align to (pro-vax, no-vax libertarian, etc.). Once faced with poverty and starvation, they will easily bend to whatever activities the elites have for them. Only a tiny "army of the brave", well-equipped, well-trained and well-motivated, might survive outside the new cast system.

Yes, but having a program that nets you 98% of the remaining population being docile is far more beneficial than one that nets 98% of them being hostile. If vaccines were the plan, it would result in an entirely hostile remaining population, and that is just not beneficial for a potential overlord. It's dumbfuckery to think otherwise.

[gsjackson]

Maybe they're getting bored with the ease of leading the sheeple around by the nose, and want to cull them out of a sense of sportsmanship. Going after bigger game now. Tally ho.

[Yohan]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? .....

Better question, what will you do when you realize that you have, once again, fallen for conspiratorial BS that hasn't come to pass?
We're all on borrowed time, such is life. You waste yours on angst and nonsense

I see the problem not with vaccination itself, but with this stupid policy to FORCE people into vaccination in some countries.
This is creating resistance among the ordinary population and it is a breeding ground for all this stupid conspiracy nonsense.

I am lucky to live in a country - Japan - where such pressure on citizens does not exist and therefore the number of anti-vaxxers is very small.
You want the vaccination, you are welcome - you don't want it, nobody cares if you don't show up.

Many are showing up by themselves, even there are waiting lists... never force anybody to vaccination and the big majority will come.

https://japan.kantei.go.jp/ongoingtopics/vaccine.html
Office of the Prime Minister of Japan

The costs of vaccination for all Japanese nationals and all eligible foreign residents, will be covered in full by public funds.
Vaccines will never be administered without the recipient’s consent. We urge the public never to coerce vaccinations at the workplace or upon others around them, and never to treat those who have not received the vaccine in a discriminatory manner.

Total number of vaccine doses administered to date (as of January 13, 2021):
201,786,647 (＋123,842) (1st: 101,172,002 2nd: 99,495,264 3rd: 1,119,381)

[Gali]

Once you lemmings who took the covaids jab realise you are living on borrowed time, what are you going to do? .....

Better question, what will you do when you realize that you have, once again, fallen for conspiratorial BS that hasn't come to pass?
We're all on borrowed time, such is life. You waste yours on angst and nonsense

I see the problem not with vaccination itself, but with this stupid policy to FORCE people into vaccination in some countries.
This is creating resistance among the ordinary population and it is a breeding ground for all this stupid conspiracy nonsense.

I am lucky to live in a country - Japan - where such pressure on citizens does not exist and therefore the number of anti-vaxxers is very small.
You want the vaccination, you are welcome - you don't want it, nobody cares if you don't show up.

Many are showing up by themselves, even there are waiting lists... never force anybody to vaccination and the big majority will come.

https://japan.kantei.go.jp/ongoingtopics/vaccine.html
Office of the Prime Minister of Japan

The costs of vaccination for all Japanese nationals and all eligible foreign residents, will be covered in full by public funds.
Vaccines will never be administered without the recipient’s consent. We urge the public never to coerce vaccinations at the workplace or upon others around them, and never to treat those who have not received the vaccine in a discriminatory manner.

Total number of vaccine doses administered to date (as of January 13, 2021):
201,786,647 (＋123,842) (1st: 101,172,002 2nd: 99,495,264 3rd: 1,119,381)

I think things would look different in Japan if most people would refuse the vaxxine and the hospitals would not be able to function properly.

[Yohan]

I think things would look different in Japan if most people would refuse the vaxxine and the hospitals would not be able to function properly.

There were some problems with vaccination about 50 years or so ago, not covid-19 of course, but with faulty vaccine and children died and some vaccinations at that time were still mandatory.

It was decided - after plenty of lawsuits - that the government has no right to force you into vaccination and any mandatory vaccination was abolished.

Should the Japanese government indeed insist to re-introduce mandatory vaccination it is responsible too in case of incidents and has to compensate the victim or in case of death the relatives. It was also decided that the drug maker or drug importer is responsible for the quality of the vaccine and can face lawsuits in case of faulty vaccines.

Of course neither the government nor the drug maker/importer wants to take this risk and highly complicated guidelines were created about safety of vaccine, with 10.000s of people tested in Japan (and not overseas) over months to find out if there is any risk.

About covid-19 only Pfizer and Moderna passed the tests.
AstraZeneca (which is produced in licence in Japan) passed only for people older than 40 and will be given only if the person orders it instead of Pfizer and Moderna.

Japan was starting to vaccinate people with considerable delay compared to other countries because of certification procedures.
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In Japan everybody was asking the same question what you are asking now - ’Will Japanese people refuse the covid-19 vaccine?' - but it was a surprise to see how many people were showing up voluntarily.

I think this is maybe because after receiving permission to go ahead with covid-19 Pfizer (Moderna is used only within military facilities) the first group for one month were only medical staff and caretakers. They all received additionally a form and were obliged to report any medical issue, any side-effect immediately in written form.

This was done with the 1st shot, with the 2nd shot and now it is done for the 3rd booster shot. So far only medical staff and only about 1.4 million people got the 3rd shot. 3rd shot is not available yet for the public.

There is now also a campaign going on for vaccination of seasonal flu/pneumonia - if you want these 2 shots, you have to pay a small fee for it. However many are showing up, both vaccines are used since years, side-effects are minimal. To be infected with covid-19 and seasonal flu at the same time and develop additionally pneumonia might become a life threatening condition.

Medical staff will tell you there is plenty of work to do, no need even to think about anti-vaxxers, who refuse to show up.
Policy is to serve those people who show up by themselves.

[publicduende]

I see the problem not with vaccination itself, but with this stupid policy to FORCE people into vaccination in some countries.
This is creating resistance among the ordinary population and it is a breeding ground for all this stupid conspiracy nonsense.

I am lucky to live in a country - Japan - where such pressure on citizens does not exist and therefore the number of anti-vaxxers is very small.
You want the vaccination, you are welcome - you don't want it, nobody cares if you don't show up.

Many are showing up by themselves, even there are waiting lists... never force anybody to vaccination and the big majority will come.

As far as I have seen, Japan airports are still closed to any non-national who doesn't have prior business in Japan. Doesn't sound much more relaxed towards Covid contagion risk than, say, Singapore or the Philippines.

The real question is: despite putting no pressure on people to get vaccinated, is the system still completely fair towards unvaccinated? Can unvaccinated people do exactly the same things as vaccinated people? Going out, taking public transport, shopping, cultural and nightlife, etc.?

[Yohan]

As far as I have seen, Japan airports are still closed to any non-national who doesn't have prior business in Japan. Doesn't sound much more relaxed towards Covid contagion risk than, say, Singapore or the Philippines.

Yes, Japan is still closed to outside, travel abroad and re-entry to Japan is the only problem and restriction we face here.
Unfortunately USA military has its own airports and immigration services to its military bases in Japan, no responsible person in the US military really cares and many servicemen and their families entered/re-entered Japan during Christmas/NewYear without vaccination, already infected from USA, they were walking out of the base, especially in Okinawa and Iwakuni and infected many 1000s of Japanese people too.

Instead of 1000 infected people with delta-variant, we have now about 110.000 infected Japanese with the omnicron. The bases are now closed, no way in or out to Japan territory, except for people living outside the base, everybody in the base is now tested, in case of infection sent to quarantine inside the base, obligatory masks and so on. - But omnicron infected people seem to recover much easier - especially those who are vaccinated against covid-19 2 x and against season flu too. We will know more in February.

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The real question is: despite putting no pressure on people to get vaccinated, is the system still completely fair towards unvaccinated? Can unvaccinated people do exactly the same things as vaccinated people? Going out, taking public transport, shopping, cultural and nightlife, etc.?

To answer your question, there is no way to know who is vaccinated or not in Japan.
Plenty of people passing by next to me when I am outside my home, how can I see if somebody is vaccinated or not?

There is no rule to force you to stay in your home, you can go out day and night, to everywhere in Japan, by feet, by car, by train or domestic airplane...vaccinated or not...facemask or not...any street, any park etc.

Public transport like city bus, train or also taxi - obligatory to enter with a face mask (any kind of face mask), driver can refuse to let you in without face-mask, airlines can refuse boarding if you refuse to use a face mask - but people are accustomed to them since decades, everybody is doing it.

Shopping malls and department stores - face mask not really obligatory, but we used them always in the past and I would say, 97 % of people using them indoors, sometimes I forgot and my wife too, but nobody said a word.

Keep public restrooms clean, wash your hands with alcohol, separation plexiglass between cashier and customer or in restaurants between tables...no problem with that, nobody complains...

Yes, you can also go to cinema, museums, baseball stadium, concerts, temples and churches etc. - the organizer/owner is selling less tickets to keep some better distance between the visitors...for example cinema, selling only 50 percent of the seats - one seat empy - one seat occupied, or coffee shops closing earlier - many of those places insist on face-mask, alcohol washing your hands, and have a temperature checker for fever.

Nobody ever was asking me for my vaccination certificate, not even in restaurants and coffee shops. It's in my home, I do not carry it with me when going out.

About medical doctors operating a small clinic - they insist on face-mask, washing your hands with alcohol, temperature check and changing your shoes for slippers they provide - but no medical doctor was ever asking me if I am vaccinated or not.

Medical doctors often use not only a high quality face-mask for themselves, but also gloves and eye-protection, especially dentists and ENT doctors.

Daily life here in Japan is almost like always, not much difference.