But of course, I've long been skeptical of them anyway.
To give a little background.
One of Hoecus' recent dellusions revolved around a plane trip that his newly wedded wife was taking. She arrives at the airport with TEN suitcases and attempts to bribe a baggage handler into checking them in so she wouldn't have to pay an extra fee (which would be quite large). Now she is used to preferential treatment because she has a lot of money. Hoecus will be the first to tell you about all the arrangements she has with people in Russia. She can get into clubs and get the best seats almost magically, she can skip ahead in line at the grocery stores and not pay anything, etc.
But she is in an airport, where security is taken very seriously. And she was strutting around like she owned the place. So let's see, A woman dressed like a mafia prostitute strutting around the airport and trying to bribe airport personel... Yeah that would seem fishey in any airport in the world. She was probably suspected of smuggling something. The airport security was so convinced of this that they wanted to cut into her fur coat.
Basically, she drew attention to herself and the airport personel noticed and responded appropriately to keep the skies a little safer. This is the logical explanation. It is a sensible explanation. Everybody can see that.
Except for Hoecus..
He thinks that somebody from the lists called in a tip to harrass his wife because he was jealous of him!
I personally challenged him on this and he immediately stopped talking about it.
At least Hoecus has some awareness about when a delusion starts to unravel.
But not you, Winston. You defend your delusions to the end. You'll even stalk me through email to try and prove it. It's a pity. Have I gotten so far under your skin Winston? I haven't been back to this board for a couple of months now. I've left for the past few times and you keep sending me this crap.
My theory on bashers....
They bash because they are not as successful as those they are bashing. Take me, for instance. I dont bash Winston ... not because I cant... but I dont have a need to bash him.
First, I don't like being lumped in with other bashers. I posted advice about how somebody can look for a wife in Russia and FSU. I used Winston as an object lesson because, frankly, you cannot do any worse than him. Brad Sharp hit the nail on the head with this one. Short of getting himself killed (which almost happened on one occaision), Winston could not have done any worse.
But it is Winston who will be the first to argue with anybody who suggests that he should have done anything differently.
You gotta love it: He did the worst a person can probably do in this endeavor following his own plan and he's going to argue with everybody else's advice on how to do this.
I don't criticize somebody for finding thinking that they can find happiness abroad. But Winston is not the authority on it.
So hoecus, are you trying to convince me that Winston's failure at finding a wife in Russia makes him successful? He's also unemployed an uneducated (he certainly didn't complete college; assuming he even started) and has been reduced to begging for hand-out over the internet like some cyber-bum.
I actually succeeded in Russia. I'm going through the K1 visa process with my fiancee. So are many of Winston's bashers.
So tell us what we are suppose to be jealous of. That a man can fly to the other side of the world to have sex with go-go girls?
One... when he wrote about Olga Salem and saying she was hot... just after her husband died... very crude.
Was he really with a whore while his "wife" was giving birth? If yea... definately a jerk move.
You seem to be making sense this time Hoecus. Winston would try to convince you that he's charming and that people love him when he behaves like this. I'm wondering why he actually thinks you are being supportive of him when you have independently come to some of the same conclusions his critics have. As far as I'm concerned. This post does more to undemine him than praise him.
But in my discussions with him, he doesn't appear to have the reading comprehension to tell the difference.
On his defense... he has an internet site that sells a product... and this forum... we log in and see whats up.... he doesnt force us to... so , apparently , there is some interest in what Winston is up to. You may not want to admit it but there is something in Winston that you desire or else you would spend your time elsewhere.
Here's where I need to fine-tune your understanding a little bit.
I'm not interested in what's up with Winston Wu. I said my piece and departed. Arguing with Winston is like arguing with a child and I get bored pretty quickly. And this was with a full range of subjects (paranormal, religion, human relationships, quantum chemistry). His knowledge at anything is pretty rudementary and I'm being charitable with that assessment. Winston doesn't provide the intellectual stimulation that I get from other people. So I left.
Unfortunately, If you haven't been around for a while to watch Winston thump his chest, he'll send you private emails and post your responses on the board; a severe breach of etiquitte. So I'd rather post my own words than to have Winston do and have him risk misrepresenting me.
Bashers are interested in the people they are bashing or else they would be elsewhere. I hate politics... and I never read about politics... I never log into a political site to bash politicians....that proves I care nothing about politics. I dont care what they are saying or up to...
Criticism isn't the same as bashing, Hoecus. And criticising politicians and making sure they are doing a good job at government is being a responsible citizen. You may hate politics. But like it or not, it impacts you quite significantly. Refusal to get involved is simple laziness.
Bashers HATE success for anyone but themselves... so they try to make the person they are bashing look bad... Their life sucks so why not try to make YOUR life suck, too.
If this were about any other person, you might be right. But this is Winston we are talking about. A freeloader who is too bullheaded to listen to anybody about how to improve his lot in life. He is the first to start name calling and character assassination techniques. Just try and read a few of his articles. He'll call this "logic" and being a "humble seeker of truth". If it's one thing that people don't like, it's phoneys. I personally want to add some balance to the discussion because some of what Winston does or says can cause serious damage if widely quoted. Plus, I'm very seriously interested in how Americans are being perceived in the world. Needless to say, Winston isn't helping much.
Take me and Winston... I could easily bash the shit out of him for having a kid and still going out with other women... since I cant have kids and want one more than anything in the world... but why bash him? Id rather congratulate him on his success at having a child.
Yeah, you deffinately need to read more. Winston didn't want the child initially. He looked at the pregnancy more as proof of his virility. He looked into getting an abortion, but Dianne was opposed to it. So why would you congratulate somebody for something that they don't want?
He's okay with the baby as long as there are other people feeding it and changing the poopy diapers. He and Dianne hardly spend anytime with the child. He is being raised by the grandparents. He's also considering saving money by not innoculating his child (about $60-70. A very managable expense for any employed father). He's now trying to find a reason to refuse the shot by asking his list about it. Yes, that's right. He's ignoring the advice of doctors and trying to find a good enough reason not to do it so that he can sleep better at night or have a good reason to tell his inlaws. He's marginally qualified to even be called a father.
Bashers dont want to share their life with others. No pictures, no websites, no data to link them to having a real life. They prefer to sit in a dark cave and live a "I wish I had (insert who they are bashing)'s life...but Im a social outcast so I cant".
I've actually been through this with Winston already. First, why would anybody be crazy enough to divulge personal information on the internet to complete strangers. Maybe I'm a little paranoid because identity theft is such an alarming problem in the United States. But some of us have assets and reputations to protect and a lot to lose if somebody messes with it. You nor Winston have significant assets to protect so I don't expect you to understand. So you can afford to freely post everything about your lives. I only expect you to respect my wishes.
Second, Winston has demonstrated that he does not use personal information in an ethical manner. He has posted private emails without permission including pictures of their spouses for the sole purpose of comparing them to his and mocking them (you seem to think that we are jealous of Winston when it is likely the opposite). He has also made things with his former employer, Stefan very difficult (potentially). If a future college or business partner decides to google his name and Winston's site comes up, it could be extremely damaging to him. Stefan is also earning a considerable sum of money with his website and Winston has expressed an interest in plagerizing it.
Now, I do have my own website. It has nothing to do with traveling abroad or finding international wives or anything else, so it isn't relevant to anything we are discussing. Why would I post it? It contains technical and scientific information. Something that you would need a college degree to understand.
You might wonder what the harm is of me posting it then? I'll tell you.
Winston will try and read it to find some flaw in it, thinking that if I made a mistake discussing about a subject such as "continuous ink jet printing", then this somehow undermines my credibility about relationships (at least in his mind). But since Winston likes to overestimate his logic skills and thinks he can use it to elucidate complicated subject matter, he'll find something he THINKS is a flaw and post it on the board. In reality it's because he doesn't have the education to understand it and I'll have to go undoing the damage he caused, which would be a full time job. No thank you! As I said before, I don't expect you or Winston to understand this since you are not in my position. But respect my wishes and stick with the discussion at hand.
He's challenged me to a debate about Quantum Mechanics (I don't know why, I think he doesn't like the name Chemist.) I already know how the debate will turn out (imagine Winston challenging Lennox Lewis to a boxing match because he thinks he can out smart him to catch the absurdity of such a challenge).
Third, which doesn't really have much to do with Winston, is that there have been incidents of harassment in real life. I'm not talking about name calling. I'm talking about phone calls to relatives and employers. If anybody expects me to give personal information in such an environment, they got to be out of their friggin mind!
So far, Winston hasn't been able to successfuly use any character assassination on me. It is simply childish name calling at this point, with the occaisional "you sound like a bs'er" thrown in. Oddly enough a prefer that. It illustrates that he's got nothing on me.
They are jealous that you are proud of your life and that you post it on the internet for others to see your success, because they are failures.
I would double-check the dosage on your pain medication. No critic of Winston that I know of can be called a failure by any stretch of the imagination. Some might be more successful than others. But not failures.
They are jealous that you can live a care-free life and they think we dont know there are consequences to what we do... we just know how to circumnavigate problems because we are "worldly" and not "Scholarly".
Actually, Winston is simply lazy. He lives this life because it was thrust upon him. He tried to do what more successful people do in Russia and was squashed (literally!). He lives this life because he simply has no choice. You both like to think that you are somehow found a secret to living a great life. But all I see are two misfits sponging off of more successful people: Winson off of his father and Hoecus off of his wife. You are only fooling your self if you think that you are doing this on your own.
I'll clue you in on a secret. Having a good education and a good job, gives somebody more flexibility in dealing with life's problems. It actually empowers you and makes you the master of your own destiny while somebody like Winston begs for table scraps off the internet so that he can by his child diapers.
There are some that hate their jobs, but plenty of us find our work rewarding. We just don't find being a bum as a legitimate profession. And that's what bugs you the most. You feel that when I criticize Winston, that I'm criticizing the lifestyle that you all share (if the shoe fits....).
I'm pretty sure which one of us is jealous!!
Deep down, at the very center, the two of you were expecting to boast about your private lives and expect all of us to be in awe at your accomplishments...at least in your own mind.
Then you found out that not many of us are impressed.
...and that pisses you off more than anything
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