Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑May 10th, 2020, 8:36 pm
Winston wrote: ↑May 10th, 2020, 7:35 pm
Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑May 8th, 2020, 10:49 pm
Christianity is the most wickedly arrogant and toxic faith on the planet. Image the gall for any "faith" to teach that their small little club has the one true understanding of life and God while the others are unfortunately doomed to hell. That is demonic evil by any reasonable standard.
Further, only 29% of the world identifies as Christian. That means 71% of the world is by chance of birth circumstances, locked out of that glorious, magical club.
But it doesn't end there! Those 29% are all splintered up into competing denominations that hate each other and consider other denominations as fake or false Christianity. The United States has roughly 200 different denominations, and the world likely has 3 times that many. The good thing about that is they are eating each other alive and exposing the hypocrisy and hate of Christianity in the process which is a great thing.
Face it. Christianity is pure bigotry, ignorance, and evil. The sooner the world is rid of this repugnant scourge, the better. Islamists and secularists will one day round up Christians and line them up against walls. This day can't come soon enough, but in the meantime, just ignore Christians and their hate-filled rhetoric with which they try to intimidate others.
I've gotten Christian preachers arrested for breaching the peace and for public nuisance violations. I see them getting arrested around the country now for endangering their congregations in the lockdown. I will not be satisfied until they are diminished as a meaningful factor in Western life.
You can't claim that Christianity is evil and never done any good and is only 100 percent bad. That's an atheist lie that only retarded men with low IQ like Christopher Hitchens would spout. You are smarter than that. Of course Christianity has done a lot of good. It's transformed lives, been a crutch for many, prevented many suicides, reformed men in jail and given them a new start, built missionaries and schools in Africa and third world countries, given empty people a purpose to live for rather than commit crime and abuse alcohol, transformed people and turned them from homosexuality or alcohol and drug abuse, etc. etc.
That is a straw man argument because I never said that it is 100% bad and it never did any good. But the the negative things it represents outweigh the few positive things.
Also, Christianity did NOT build all those things. Individuals who just happened to be Christian built them to gain acceptance in third world countries. They were simply purchasing people‘s favorable view of the faith since the doctrines alone could never hope to do.
When smiling drug dealers give out free drugs and Thanksgiving turkeys to children, it is never out of pure altruism. It is out of self interest which reveals itself later.
@Contrarian Expatriate
How can you know? How do you count the negatives vs. the positives? The only negatives are long ago during the witch hunts, inquisition and crusades. But then again, a case can be made that those were the faults of men, not the Bible or God or religion. Christians would use that argument of course. Anyone can use religion as an excuse for war or persecution or witch hunts. But that is not the fault of the religion. Atheists are wrong to think like that and jump to conclusions.
It's also not true that Christianity caused any wars, like Atheists like Christopher Hitchens and other extremists claimed. They even claim all wars or most wars are started by religion. Anyone knows that's not true. WW1 and WW2 were not about religion, neither was the Vietnam War, or the Civil War, or the Napoleonic Wars, etc. Not even the Crusades were about religion, they were about stopping Muslim aggression and protecting the Byzantine Empire and Orthodox Church in the East. Sure they did some bad things, but in a war, everyone does bad things. But that's not the fault of religion. Atheists who claim that are liars and make obviously false claims because they are desperate to vilify religion any way they can, including with lies.
Sure it's closed minded, but lots of people are closed minded. It's a fault of human nature.
You forget that Christianity has prevented many suicides. Many who were about to kill themselves opened a BIble and changed their minds. Also, Missionaries who witnessed to prisoners have converted many and reformed them too. Atheists have not reformed anyone in prison. Not even one. No comparison. You gotta admit that.
A US Senator named Chuck Colson or something, started a missionary program for prisoners and helped a lot of people in jail. You gotta give him credit for that.
Christianity also has given hope and purpose and inner strength to countless many throughout history. Even to black slaves in the 19th century needed Christianity to help them endure their slavery and hardship. Else they wouldn't have been able to endure. Atheism doesn't help anyone in that way of course. You should be glad that Christianity helped your ancestors endure their oppression.
It also helped me get through high school too where I was lonely and oppressed everyday in a prison like environment. So I know from firsthand experience. Why you don't take all that into account?
What about all the drug and alcohol abusers that Christianity reformed and helped to get over their addictions? What about the homosexuals who became born again and then found the inner strength to become straight again?
Etc Etc. Why don't you take all that into consideration CE? Why deny it just because you have a hatred for religion and bias against it? Why are you so closed minded? Why can't you just admit the truth and give credit where credit is due?
Btw, here is Senator Chuck Colson's website about his prison missionary program, which has helped reform a lot of people in jail and transformed their lives. No atheist or atheism itself has been able to do anything like this, you can't deny that. See below.
https://www.prisonfellowship.org/about/chuckcolson/
THE LEGACY OF CHUCK COLSON
The story of our founder is a testimony to God’s grace and mercy.
In 1974, Chuck Colson, a former top aide to President Nixon, voluntarily pled guilty to obstruction of justice on a Watergate-related charge and served seven months as a new Christian in Alabama’s Maxwell Prison.
In his best-selling memoir, Born Again, Chuck wrote, “I found myself increasingly drawn to the idea that God had put me in prison for a purpose and that I should do something for those I had left behind.”
Colson emerged from prison with a new mission: mobilizing the Christian Church to minister to prisoners. He founded Prison Fellowship® in 1976, which has become the nation’s largest Christian nonprofit serving prisoners, former prisoners, and their families, and a leading advocate for criminal justice reform. In recognition of his work among prisoners, Colson received the prestigious Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion in 1993.
On April 21, 2012, Chuck Colson passed away. His legacy continues, however, in the work of Prison Fellowship, and in the lives of the many people his ministry has touched.
