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I read your article about Washington and couldnt agree more. I came to Washington from California and as a child, I was outgoing and friendly. After 25 years of living here, I always have to suppress the joyful side of me. Not very many people get that here. I have never had loyal friends and its impossible to meet new ones unless they moved from another state. Something is obviously wrong here.I thought at one time it was the weather, but there are many cities/countries,with the same climate, that do not act this way. Very Adams family:) I would move, but my husband works at Boeing. I still try to hold on to myself though, I dont act the same way. That could be why I am lonely here. Thank you for your article, at least now I know Im not going crazy.
I'm from Bellingham WA born and raised and am 30 years old and very good looking in very good athletic shape and have house and make good money and I am still a virgin! You are right this place is so anti social it is making me lonely and depressed. I go out shopping and people act like Im an alien or something because Im alone and everyone else has friends or family. The girls I have ask out say im too busy with school and all that bull shit. I am a shy guy but still they dont give me a chance to get to know them. Fuck this town! If you would see a picture of me you would shit .I look like a celebrity.
I'm about halfway through your essay about shitty Bellingham is and I would
first like to say thank you. Thank you for writing this. I lived in/around the
Bellingham area on and off for 15 years (2 months old - 10 years old, 18 years
old - 23 years old) and the entire time I was there I always though there was something wrong with me but now I know for
sure this isn't true. I was born in anchorage alaska
and my mother took me to Bellingham (she was born in Washington and lived in
Bellingham, went back because of life circumstances) so I'm not technically a
Washingtonian and I'm pretty sure they could sense that in me. I was alienated
by everyone around me, even my own family treated me
like an outcast. While attending WCC it was the same, I was still an outcast
and no one wanted anything to do with me. I don't smell,
I'm not ugly, or stupid. I was only approached one time and it was by religious
nut bags trying to get me to join their cult. I of course declined. I decided
to test the waters one day with a guy from my class that I thought was nice. I
asked him if he wanted to hang out sometime. He looked at me like I was a
freak. He said maybe and I offered my number and then he shouted at me that he
said no (wtf???) I didn't really care if we actually
hung out, I just wanted to confirm my suspicions.
Bellingham people are cold, shallow, self absorbed, fucking assholes. While I
was attending WCC I worked in a salon. After two years I had maybe 5 loyal
customers if that. I moved to Florida two years ago from Bellingham. I have
since made friends, developed a much larger clientele, gone back to college
where people are actually and want to meet up with me, and I love it!! If you
reply, I look forward to it. I feel like we have much in common based on our
similar experiences in the dump hole that is Bellingham.
I just read parts of your online writings about Bellingham, I've lived there on and off for a few years, and also many other areas of the country and I completely agree that women are generally unapproachable, and it's anti social and stuck up. Thanks for your writing, I thought I was the only one who thought this way about Bellingham. I need to get my upgraded dl so i can go hang up in vancouver!
See the many viewer comments to this video about The Seattle Freeze that confirm the video?s claim about the area being anti-social.
I remenber Railroad Ave and the baglery. The
women were so uptight in
A few years ago, I lived in
I enjoyed watching 'Frasier' during its run on TV, but when I visited some of the coffee shops in
Any wonder why the
I've noticed that, especially since I live in
Oh well it's not a total loss. I hang out with my fellow geeks and have a D&D game twice a month. I find it funny that my geeky friends and I actually tend to have more friends than the cooler, socially accepted people.?
I read what you wrote about
God's purgatory beta gone wrong and forgotten. I hate this place so much it makes me feel sick with rage just thinking about it. I agree with everything you say and more. I feel
alone most of the time in my hatred for this town because everyone FROM here has the most raging fucking hard-on for this God forsaken shithole; and no one seems to agree with
I have a personal story about this place that I think you might be interested in. A story about me trying to leave here and the ridiculous things that have kept me here, like almost
dying a couple times, catastrophic car failures, losing jobs, getting screwed out of thousands of dollars from employers, etc.
Anyway, if you are still here, as am I, maybe we could help eachother leave, or at least be an anti-B'ham alliance and work together to kick this place in the fucking balls and tear it's "curse" a new asshole.
Winston, You are right on. I have
lived in many parts of the country as a former military wife. I have observed
the populations in the different parts of the country. The statements made
"depressed job market, no opportunity, dead end low paying jobs (with no
opportunity to advance), dead beats (and panhandlers abound), lack of culture
(oh yeah)" and more. But woe to the person that points
out all the minuses to someone who is from that arrid
land. They get very defensive. The comments I got were "This a beautiful area" (granted) but you can't live on
"beautiful" or pay your bills or provide adequately for your
children. As far as beautiful is concerned-Have you seen Montana, upstate New
York, Vermont, Virginia, Kentucky, Oregan coastline,
the Hatteras in N.Carolina, Eastern Texas, Alaska,
and least but not last Hawaiian Islands? Lets
talk beautiful. But I can almost guess the majority of Bellinghamites
have not seen the rest of their own country.
My former was from
WARNING! This site is complete bullshit and it's author has been diagnosed with several mental
disorders. Just take a look at the forums if you don't believe me.
DONT BELIEVE ANY OF THIS SHIT!
Go smoke a blunt and forget any of this bullshit he may have inputted into your minds. Peace.
- A true bellinghammer.
Winston, I for one can relate to your situation. I finally
broke free from the curse of
I agree with you everything you said about
Dear fellow dislocation hell sufferer,
Naturally I am not happy to hear that you are so stagnant,
miserable, and seemingly "stuck"here in
However, I admit that finding your website has given me a series of wonderful heartfelt
belly laughs, as well as a sense of not being the "only one" in this bizarre place who knows there is a far better world out there with exciting potentialities, interesting jobs, truly beautiful landscape with actual blue sky, friendly people and, oh my God!, Sunlight!
I use a blue-wave anti-depression light box, have full spectrum
lights in the house, take energy supplements, meditate, and call friends in
It still sucks to live here. It is the weirdest thing.
I have been going through the desperate escape and
consequent suction back into Bham cycle for 16
years. I think most of the people here are seriously depressed, Seasonal
Affective Disorder, and maybe chemical toxicity from the 30 years of Georgia
Pacific operating in the downtown
I am doing it! I am getting out this spring. Life is too precious. I am 54 now. I am not going to waste any more time. I want a different life with different social cultural and financial possibilities.
I agree with you. You are so right! You are quite sane!
Thanks for the validation and for the laughs. I like your site.
Nice writing. Pretty much sums up my experience here
so far. Are you still in
Anyway I could use someone with a soul to talk to if you wanna hang out sometime soon. I am serious! There's a new Woods Coffee in town. Give me an email or friggin call me on my out-of-state (ha) phone.
I'm not sure where to start so I'm just going to make a
list. 1. your
obsessed with hating
out already) 2. your perfectly justified in your hatred of that town
and I dont blame you in the least. 3. Its impossible to make real
friends there, I think theres a window that's open for the first 2
years but after that its gone and if you haven;'t made your friends by
then your destined to a life of soggy loneliness. 3. I prefer to call
it Howling-pig instead of Bellowing-ham. 4. No one between the ages of
23 and 45 has any business being there. 5. When I moved to Bellingham
from small town Alaska in 1999 to go to college, I smiled to strangers
on the streets and I talked to everyone, EVERYONE until enough people
convinced me that I was asking to get raped by doing this and
eventually it was scared out of me. 6. I feel bad about this. 7. How
many dingy shit-hole bars does one town honestly need or? 8. I think
its the Newest California. 9. Its a wonderful place to live if you
make over 6 figures a year and are self employed so you can afford
your Subaru outback with a full suit of pastel North face gear in
which to walk your purebred along the toxic bay trails. Otherwise your
destined to live out your days in a shit hole rental on Garden while
some fucking underage drinker pukes outside your bedroom window every
single weekend 9. Thomas Mann should NOT be the unofficial-official
artist of the town because he sucks. 10. The women in Bellingham are
falsely cliquish to both women & men. 11. But this is probably because
the men in the town just want to get laid and think that if you give
them more than 10 seconds of your friendly time you will
probably-definitely sleep with them. (that little doozy is a double
edged sword I think). I'm done with the list now.
I finally escaped for the final and last time, it took me 8 years
but I did it, last week, and theres no way in hell I'm ever going back
there. I made one group of friends in the dorms who all graduated and
left in 2004 and yet I stayed until last week for no reason in
particular but because I just couldn't get out. I worked for minimum
wage at Village Books for 4 years with an entire staff of under payed,
over worked MBA's. I watched the same people all over town get older
and stay dead ended at their various local, organic, sustainable,
natural, free-range shops that also pay minimum wage and dont give
benefits and now you've got me started and so I must stop. My
apologies, I could go all day and frequently do. I wanted to write to
talk about the curse because other than my long lost friend Beth who
told me about it I have never met another person who's heard of it.
The story I got was that the imported Chinese laborers (who weren't
allowed to cross the line of demarcation into Fairhaven unless to go
the mines) were striking for various reasons and (this is where it
gets fuzzy) so scab workers were brought in and the original group
were all mysteriously trapped in a mine when it collapsed and no one
dug them out and so, they put a curse on Bellingham that no one would
be able to truly leave the place until they had accomplished what they
came for. The catch is that no body really knows what they came for
and those of us who came for college, graduate and then dont leave
have no explanation... we just.... stay. I tried leaving at least 4
times and every time it didnt work out and so I went back. Its
strange, really truly strange and I support you in your impending
escape, if and when it comes. Until then eat lots of green tea ice
cream from Mallards and Eggenues at Avenue Bread, go hang out at
MindPort and watch the nightly sunsets and take heart in the fact that
it doesn't rain there as much as it does in Seattle. Heck, take heart
in the fact that at least your not living in Seattle which seems to be
just a bigger quick sandier version of Bellingham. Thanks for the
website and the rant. Goodluck. -Krissy.
p.s. A While ago there was an article in the Seattle Times by a
visiting New Yorker (I think) who talked about the passive
friendliness and how people will smile and make small talk and be very
friendly but will never invite you to do anything, or how they'll stop
to let you cross the street even though you dont want to and how
they'll tell you all about their big plans to go skiing that weekend
but wont invite you. It was a fantastic article. I wish I still had
it to send you.
So..... I didn't read your whole
page, but thought it interesting since I was raised in Bellingham, went away
for school, was not planning on coming back, then was planning on staying for 1
year, and now I've been here for 1.5 years and have wanted to leave the whole
Have you heard about the ancient curse on Bellingham. I have heard a few people over the years mention this ancient curse on Bellingham. Do with it what you want.......
Goes something like this:
A long time ago when the first out of area "settlers" came to the land that would later be called 'Bellingham' by ship, the land was so dense with trees that people had to cut trees down to land. It seemed a place of much opportunity and a huge abundance of natural resources. Logging, fishing, hunting, and mining. What more could you ask for? The word got around and Bellingham began to grow. It became slightly more diverse. As the story goes, a group of people from China sailed to Bellingham to escape the imperialism of chinese dynasties. They were not met by friendly open minded people and did not get along well with them. Bellingham people were as you describe them.... anti-social, isolated, and uptight. Nevertheless, the scenery was beautiful and the sky was the limit. This group from China made good use of the land and worked in a mine in the lowlands of what is now Whatcom County for settlers who had landed before them.
Life was well enough.......
Until one day they went to work like they did everyday and the mine collapsed behind them. 15-20 Chinese workers were trapped. There was no instant worries since no one was injured and there was plenty of machinery near the mine to remove the rubble in their way. Much time went by and conditions worsened. They began to fear for their lives. Why would no one save them?
After what they thought to be about 3 days they had given up and knew that they would perish in the pitch black cold, damp, humid cave. It was dark and no one had spoken a word for 24 hours. They were miserable, anti-social, lonely, and depressed because they were going to die. On this 3rd day one of people gathered the group together to say some last things. All felt betrayed by the people of 'Bellingham.' They knew that they could have been saved and these miserable fucks had decided not to for economic reasons. The mine had not been producing. Together these 15-20 Chinese people placed a curse in their last hours of life. The set a curse that apparently still lives on today. Through the powers of their ancestors and their gods they wished that none of these people in Bellingham would ever leave and would sit in this damp, humid, unfriendly place. That they could not leave and neither would their children as well as their children and so forth. Even if they did leave they would find themselves sucked back into this miserable place. The rain and clouds would drive the depression and no one would ever try to leave again. Their children would be so depressed that they would just sit around and think....'what's wrong with me'? While never mustering up enough energy to do anything about it. To live miserably like this Chinese group died.....When they didn't have to...........
So here we are. The children of parents whose parents parents parents let these people die because it was not financially smart to save them. Stuck in this town wondering why we can't leave. It's not our choice it's the wish of people long before us who have more reason for us to stay than for us to go...............
I don't really remember what I searched because I was just surfing the internet drunk that night. I think I was looking for a new job and thinking about leaving town and decided to search "Bellingham Curse" on Google. I was just curious if it was online. I just made that version up though.
I work as a Transportation Engineer right now and want to leave town. I bet the Philippines are awesome. I just went to China last month and it was the coolest thing I've ever done. I'm thinking about Spain, Australia, Brazil, or some African Country next. We'll see.
There are some social people in Bellingham, but I think most of them are more private then other people outside of the NW. They don't seem to open up. Anyway, it's a beautiful place to raise a family, but it's not a good place for a 27 year old single male. Actually, I think it's the worst place for that. Needless to say I need to get out.
I am not sure WHEN you posted about Russia on Daves Cafe but I just read most of it now. I don't know if you are in Bellingham now or where but there's one thing that I really wanted to point out. I agree with EVERYTHING. It's a shock when you realize how other places flow socially. Then you realize, that's all it really takes to make yourself actually happy. HOWEVER, I'm in Portland now, after having lived abroad off and on for years (Brazil and Mexico), and in Chicago, California and also Ashland, Oregon, I've noticed that people from the Northwest generally have the BEST time abroad. Why? Because the Northwest vibe sucks.
Comparing it to other parts of just the US? ....Work place environment is more anal here, weather is shitty that makes people totally paranoid, there's sooo many clicks and crap like that....even when you are older. I know it's all over the US to some extent but I'm telling you, it's horrible here. I'm so pist I moved back here and wish to god I were in California or anywhere with a friendlier, higher energy going around. I LOVE people and am really social. You can put out and put out all that energy in the NW and get little or NONE of it back. My god, Yakima, Washington has more to offer in that department. How pathetic is THAT?
Anyway, if you are back in the states, get OUT of the northwest. Move to the Carolinas or even NYC! California, New Mexico, Arizona...god, anywhere but up here.
My friends that come to visit me here are like "shit, it's amazing how depressed and sick everyone looks here....I'm so glad I don't live here anymore".
Yep, I'm movin on even though i have the best job ever here. A good job doesn't make up for a lame social scene and wasted energy. I'm only 30 and I am not ready to cave up in my apartment, smoke all day and PAINT. I'll do that when I'm 85.
Just some thoughts.
Kari---fellow ESL teacher