The moral necessity of HA

[fschmidt]

Yes, I have noticed this too. There seems to be this push to promote turning men as meek as humanly possible. Nerdy, meek, "turn the other cheek" type of people is what "the powers that be" want all men to be. Kids are taught to, above all else, be "sensitive" and little boys need to be allowed "gender creativity" and wear dresses or put on nail polish nowadays. It's sickening.

And it only really happens in places that are either Western, or heavily Westernized. Even conservatives are kind of mentally cucked at this point.

Serious Muslims seem immune to this nonsense. Western conservatives are a lost cause.

[Outcast9428]

No @Cornfed You're just a faux conservative degenerate who thinks he's super traditional just because he has a lot of extreme and controversial opinions. But having extreme opinions doesn't make you traditional when you don't even understand the basics of the ideology. Your opinions are not extreme because of how old fashioned they are... They're extreme because of how blatantly morally bankrupt they are. Everything that you promote is self serving, that's it. You're not a traditionalist, you're a selfish f***ing cunt who's only attraction to "traditionalism" is based on the fact that you want women to be better wives for you but you have no intention whatsoever of being a good husband to your wife. Promoting women to be better wives is a good thing, but you actually promote men being bad husbands at the same time. No woman is gonna want to be a good wife when the men who are leading her towards behaviors that could make her a good wife are all assholes. You have latched onto this vague idea of traditional gender roles, and perverted it in order to excuse what is literally just domestic abuse. You're not a traditionalist... You're an abuser.

@MarcosZeitola You've got to be kidding me... With Andrew Tate running around promoting his bullshit and the entire rap music industry promoting their toxic sludge, you honestly think the elites are against guys being dominant douchebros? That's all they ever f***ing promote. Just so y'all know, the elites are pushing this BDSM crap in our schools and at drag queen shows. The Biden administration hired this nonbinary freak who self-identifies as a "kink activist" and hosted a spanking seminar at a kink conference. None of the woke elites are opposed to this at all. They want to promote as much perversion as possible. And yes, men should not be dominating women during sex. That's a disgusting perversion of what ought to be an act of love. If you support BDSM bullshit you're not a conservative... Cornfed is not traditional or conservative, he's just a fringe lunatic.

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[Outcast9428]

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@MarcosZeitola You've got to be kidding me... With Andrew Tate running around promoting his bullshit and the entire rap music industry promoting their toxic sludge, you honestly think the elites are against guys being dominant douchebros? That's all they ever f***ing promote. Just so y'all know, the elites are pushing this BDSM crap in our schools and at drag queen shows. The Biden administration hired this nonbinary freak who self-identifies as a "kink activist" and hosted a spanking seminar at a kink conference. None of the woke elites are opposed to this at all. They want to promote as much perversion as possible. And yes, men should not be dominating women during sex. That's a disgusting perversion of what ought to be an act of love. If you support BDSM bullshit you're not a conservative... Cornfed is not traditional or conservative, he's just a fringe lunatic.

@Outcast9428
You are misunderstanding me. I'm not a "fan" of degrading things being normalized. But I do believe the LGBT stuff is far more harmful, in particular the erosion of gender and what it means. The obsession with turning boys as weak and meek as possible is sickening. As for Tate, he's not doing an awful lot of running around, his dumb ass is still in jail in Romania and will be for the foreseeable future.

In a world full of trannies and, according to Tsar, girls committing bestiality... I think some people engaging in some sort of "Fifty Shades" fantasy of 'master and submissive' is kind of tame in comparison. As fot the whole BDSM, there is the kinda rough stuff and then there is the downright abusive stuff, slapping, hitting, hurting one another. I'm not a fan of that at all, far from it. But people have weird kinks, sometimes. A lot of girls kinda like it when, during sex, you wrap your hands around her neck. Nothing to major. Nothing to forceful. Just a gentle reminder of your power as a man, and how with one squeeze you might end her. Same with the pulling of hair during doggystle... tons of girls are into that. Doesn't have to be hard or particularly painful but... different strokes for different folks, my man.

The tranny stuff being pushed everywhere and the feminization of young boys is honestly a far worse thing than some guys pretending to be big bad dudebros and running around like they own the place. It's mostly just pathetic posturing but a "dudebro" son would be preferable to any sane man over a disease riddled tranny or a cuck, lol. And no, I'm not some sort of terrible degenerate nor am I completely against what you're saying, Outcast. I just think that when ((they)) get to a man's son and turn him into a douchebag rapper, you could still "set him straight". But once they brainwash him into believing 'gender is a social construct' and pump him full of hormones... he's damaged beyond repair. Hence my somewhat different priorities.

You're not wrong, but the thing is, trannies are less then 1% of the population. Do I think we ought to be bringing back mental asylums and putting them in it until they learn to accept reality? Yes... Do I think all the public school teachers promoting this crap should be put in prison? Yes. But the BDSM crap is infecting somewhere between 60%-70% of the population, if we continue to ignore it then it could get to the point where it can't be stopped anymore, hence why I believe it is a far more urgent threat.

[Outcast9428]

Say a man and woman have sex, and he holds her wrists and he ploughs her harder than usual, he's a little rough with her and this turns her on.

Although this was worded badly, I would say that's pretty normal. Its not painful at all, that's much more of a lustful interaction... Not a sadomasochistic one.

There are also forms of BDSM that originate in Japan, such as shibari, the art of tying up a naked girl sensually. Is this allowed, or not?

It is a slippery slope, so preferably not... Since it doesn't create physical pain, it is on the mild side of things if somebody does that but I don't think it should be portrayed in media or pornography because its too close to stuff that is really bad.

If the act causes physical pain or is intended to humiliate the subject (like making a girl crawl around on a leash), it is going into highly degenerate and unacceptable territory. If its something like handcuffs or being tied down/up, I'd say, mildly degenerate and a bad slope/road to go down. So best avoided, definitely should never be promoted, but not in the seriously degenerate category.

The whole "power and control" thing and playing with those concepts, is a huge turn-on for a lot of men and women.

Highly degenerate and unacceptable.

There's an even more worrisome trend of men being into "pegging" that is promoted everywhere, where girls f**k their boyfriends and husbands anally with a strap-on dildo and a lot of butt-stuff is taking place. I think that's a lot more gay and twisted.

I agree that this is highly degenerate and unacceptable as well.

The whole point of traditionalism is to create a harmonious relationship between men and women that is positive, satisfactory for both genders, and maintains or restores the values that built our civilization. The most basic aspect of the traditional view on sex is that sex is supposed to be an act of affection and love. Sadomasochism spits in the face of all that. It is twisting sex into an act of violence and pain instead of affection. This is a complete inversion of what the act of sex is supposed to be about. It disrupts the harmony between men and women by essentially programming women into getting off on their own pain. It is a disgusting abomination.

There are certain acts that are so evil I believe them to be dark rituals. Child sacrifice is one of them, because of the unbelievable perversion of the relationship between parent and child which happens when child sacrifice occurs. Well, sadomasochism is another dark ritual... By perverting another one of the purest relationships on Earth, romantic relationships between men and women. Twisting their relationship away from love and affection and instead towards violence and pain. Our world becomes a more evil place every time one of these acts is performed because it breeds dark energy that corrupts people's souls... Primarily the souls of the people performing these rituals. But the more surrounded you are by people with corrupted souls, the darker in world in general becomes.

Our world will not get better until we stop this madness. If you wonder why the tranny stuff is even happening you should take a look at how much perversion in general has been normalized. When people normalize any fetishes, kinks, perversities, it opens the floodgates for all of them to be normalized.

[Cornfed]

@Outcast9428
At what point does "BDSM" cross the line into abusive and mentally ill?

At any point the Satanic courts want. That's why he is promoting what would otherwise just be silly nonsense.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola It doesn’t matter if that’s what she wants. She should be ostracized for it.

I don’t support a “don’t ask don’t tell policy.” That’s just moral weakness. It needs to be very stigmatized and yes the girls who do this sort of thing are wicked people.

The prevalence of these fetishes would be reduced by at least 50% if we outlawed the pornography which portrays them.

[Pixel--Dude]

@MarcosZeitola It doesn’t matter if that’s what she wants. She should be ostracized for it.

I don’t support a “don’t ask don’t tell policy.” That’s just moral weakness. It needs to be very stigmatized and yes the girls who do this sort of thing are wicked people.

The prevalence of these fetishes would be reduced by at least 50% if we outlawed the pornography which portrays them.

I don't know. Some girls just need a little... more. Regular vanilla sex doesn't do it for them. Same with some guys. You cannot realistically expect every human being to be into the same sort of hyper-romantic Shakespearean candle-lit love making you're into... Especially if you're a married couple, you've been together for a long time. Chances are, you'll try some differtent ways, different techniques. I'm pretty sure even before pornography was around, some couples got pretty damn freaky in the bedroom. They just didn't advertise the fact.

I agree with you. I think @Outcast9428 is conflating something he has a personal dislike towards with some kind of abhorrent immoral degeneracy. I will confess that some extreme forms of BDSM turn me off when I'm watching porn. I don't like watching some poor girl getting slapped in the face while she's getting railed by some dude but some spanking and binding etc is alright. I even like doing that to some girls. It's nice to have that level of power over them and they are at your mercy, they place their trust in you when they're tied to the bed for example

I think we should discuss this in more detail. I actually started writing a thread on Fetishism & Sexual Deviance half an hour ago lol. You were both tagged in it @MarcosZeitola & @Outcast9428 I was going to write about different types of Fetishism and we could rate how degenerate they are from 1-5 and discuss why we think that. I reckon it would be an interesting and fun discussion. However, I lost internet connection and the whole thread I wrote vanished and I can't be f***ed to write it out again right now. I'm busy next week, but when I'm back I'll try writing it out again.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola It doesn’t matter if that’s what she wants. She should be ostracized for it.

I don’t support a “don’t ask don’t tell policy.” That’s just moral weakness. It needs to be very stigmatized and yes the girls who do this sort of thing are wicked people.

The prevalence of these fetishes would be reduced by at least 50% if we outlawed the pornography which portrays them.

I don't know. Some girls just need a little... more. Regular vanilla sex doesn't do it for them. Same with some guys. You cannot realistically expect every human being to be into the same sort of hyper-romantic Shakespearean candle-lit love making you're into... Especially if you're a married couple, you've been together for a long time. Chances are, you'll try some differtent ways, different techniques. I'm pretty sure even before pornography was around, some couples got pretty damn freaky in the bedroom. They just didn't advertise the fact.

I don’t expect to get rid of all of it anymore then I expect to get rid of all murder, rape or whatever. But I do think it’s possible and a moral requirement of us to significantly and proactively reduce its prevalence.

Marquis de Sade was into the sadomasochism crap… They threw him in prison because of it. This sort of thing was not acceptable in the past. The lack of any writings or literature about it goes to show that it was virtually unheard of to do stuff like that and people’s reaction to Marquis De Sade gives you a pretty good idea of what they would have thought if they did know about it.

[Cornfed]

I don’t expect to get rid of all of it anymore then I expect to get rid of all murder, rape or whatever. But I do think it’s possible and a moral requirement of us to significantly and proactively reduce its prevalence.

Yep your goal is clearly to scare good men into being pansies so they won't get sex or if they do the females will be bored with them and so will dump them, but if a few good men manage to slip your net and marry anyway you want to make sure the females are sluts so the marriages will fail. Credit to you Satanists for covering your bases.

[Outcast9428]

I don’t expect to get rid of all of it anymore then I expect to get rid of all murder, rape or whatever. But I do think it’s possible and a moral requirement of us to significantly and proactively reduce its prevalence.

Yep your goal is clearly to scare good men into being pansies so they won't get sex or if they do the females will be bored with them and so will dump them, but if a few good men manage to slip your net and marry anyway you want to make sure the females are sluts so the marriages will fail. Credit to you Satanists for covering your bases.

What I’m doing will ensure that good men are the ones getting women, and violent abusers, like yourself, fail to.

If a woman “gets bored” of a guy for not being an abusive, violent asshole then she was worthless to begin with.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola It doesn’t matter if that’s what she wants. She should be ostracized for it.

I don’t support a “don’t ask don’t tell policy.” That’s just moral weakness. It needs to be very stigmatized and yes the girls who do this sort of thing are wicked people.

The prevalence of these fetishes would be reduced by at least 50% if we outlawed the pornography which portrays them.

I don't know. Some girls just need a little... more. Regular vanilla sex doesn't do it for them. Same with some guys. You cannot realistically expect every human being to be into the same sort of hyper-romantic Shakespearean candle-lit love making you're into... Especially if you're a married couple, you've been together for a long time. Chances are, you'll try some differtent ways, different techniques. I'm pretty sure even before pornography was around, some couples got pretty damn freaky in the bedroom. They just didn't advertise the fact.

I agree with you. I think @Outcast9428 is conflating something he has a personal dislike towards with some kind of abhorrent immoral degeneracy. I will confess that some extreme forms of BDSM turn me off when I'm watching porn. I don't like watching some poor girl getting slapped in the face while she's getting railed by some dude but some spanking and binding etc is alright. I even like doing that to some girls. It's nice to have that level of power over them and they are at your mercy, they place their trust in you when they're tied to the bed for example

I think we should discuss this in more detail. I actually started writing a thread on Fetishism & Sexual Deviance half an hour ago lol. You were both tagged in it @MarcosZeitola & @Outcast9428 I was going to write about different types of Fetishism and we could rate how degenerate they are from 1-5 and discuss why we think that. I reckon it would be an interesting and fun discussion. However, I lost internet connection and the whole thread I wrote vanished and I can't be f***ed to write it out again right now. I'm busy next week, but when I'm back I'll try writing it out again.

I personally dislike big butts, I personally dislike the “thick girl” stuff, I personally dislike anal sex, I personally dislike huge boobs, I personally dislike tattoos… I don’t claim that men who are into any of that are immoral though. Sadomasochism on the other hand is the most evil form of degeneracy on this Earth. Sure there are definitely worse things then spanking specifically is, but spanking is bad because it’s a mild form of sadomasochism. The most severe forms of sadomasochism are sicker then any other fetish I can think of. Ultimately all of it needs to be defeated and reduced in prevalence.

[Outcast9428]

In my ideal world, meaning if I was made the emperor of the country or something and had absolute power... People committing sadomasochistic acts would be sent to prison... That being said, someone who has the fetish can avoid prison by simply not actually following through on their fetish... In which case, they should be steered towards getting therapy to cure them. I know one person who used to have fetishes like that who managed to overcome it, so it definitely can be done. I would also have all knowledge of these acts censored and scrubbed out of the media and the internet so that the knowledge of their existence is forgotten. I think people not even knowing it exists is the easiest way to eliminate almost all of it for good.

And yes, in my ideal world, girls actually would be virgins when getting married because they'd be arranged to marry a man when they are teenagers so that the young couple can kind of grow up together. Marriage would be universal except for violent criminals who went to prison, they'd be the only people who aren't married.

I don't believe any of these ideas are realistic for the United States though. It might be possible in another country like Japan or Hungary, but the chances of that sort of society happening anywhere in the US is virtually zero. I don't expect a society like that to exist in my lifetime nor am I really going to push for it, because I don't consider it a realistic dream to actually attempt.

That being said, convincing politicians to outlaw violent pornography and imprison violent sex abusers is realistic.

[Cornfed]

I don’t expect to get rid of all of it anymore then I expect to get rid of all murder, rape or whatever. But I do think it’s possible and a moral requirement of us to significantly and proactively reduce its prevalence.

Yep your goal is clearly to scare good men into being pansies so they won't get sex or if they do the females will be bored with them and so will dump them, but if a few good men manage to slip your net and marry anyway you want to make sure the females are sluts so the marriages will fail. Credit to you Satanists for covering your bases.

What I’m doing will ensure that good men are the ones getting women, and violent abusers, like yourself, fail to.

Yep, the standard leftist talking points and conformation that you are advocating targeting men and claiming to protect females in the usual leftist fashion. Your position is another take on leftism/Satanism, just as I thought.

[WilliamSmith]

What I dislike is the constant oversharing people do. I mean, sure, you have your yellow fever, @Lucas88 has his Latina-with-big-butts fever, and good ol' @WilliamSmith has his insatiable thirst for curvaceous black ladies. That's fine. But like, I don't need to know the intimate details of everyone's love life lol. There are lines to draw in that regard, things that just aren't "classy". The age old wisdom of "a gentleman never tells" comes to mind... hence me f***ing my fair share of women but not discussing it or bragging about it shamelessly with friends....

LOL, I agree a man should never mention any woman's name IRL, but I never posted a single "lay report" as far as I can remember, but.. hmmmmmmm...........

What did @MarcosZeitola "share" here in this classy thread?
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I was once lucky enough to f**k a Blasian girl. It was truly one of those "best of both worlds" situation. Her p***y was absolutely excquisite. Big boobs, great butt. She had the large, strong, firm body of a black girl. But the longer, pointier and overall larger nipples more common for Asian girls. Her p***y was... something else, entirely. Puffy. Wet as sin. Delicious and so... warm and inviting. It was Heaven.

Hmmm..........

It's so great that you got to fcuk a Blasian. I've knocked the back out of some Colombian mulatas (i.e., half-black, half-Spanish) but never a Blasian.

I've actually never f***ed any Latinas yet, so in that sense you're still ahead of me. They're fine as sin... I recently watched the show 'Narcos" on Netflix, the first one about Escobar and the Cali Cartel and my GOD those women are hot as f**k. You lucky, lucky man.

You're one of the forum's real macho men and have fcuked many different women just like @WilliamSmith and @E Irizarry R&B Singer have. In fact, you're even a bit of a Genghis khan type of character who's fathered 10 kids in two different countries. You've certainly pounded your fair share of poon!

I cannot complain hehe. I'd also summise from what I have read on the forum so far that @gsjackson and @publicduende both have had their fair share of amorous adventures, probably moreso than myself as they're older and more experienced. This forum has its share of legendary punani slayers of present, past & future.

Based on your extensive experience with women of all kinds of ethnicities, do you have an opinion on what race of women has the best pussies? I'd really like to hear what you have to say on the matter!

It invariably tends to be mestizas, for me. Like Spanish-Filipinas. I've also had a particularly delicious Italian-Portuguese girl once when I was twenty; hers was simply devine. I love the sort of juicy pussies that leaves a prominent camel toe in whatever tight piece of fabric the girl wraps her lower half. I'd say all races have the potential to have good p***y. But I do believe white p***y ages the most badly, and often becomes smelly and rather awful looking after thirty.

Perhaps the hottest p***y I have merely seen but not actually pounded belonged to a half-Eritrean, half-Norwegian girl. She was absolutely gorgeous, golden-skinned, and her p***y was puffy, meaty, prominent and featuring a sizeable clit. Would have loved going to town on her but, alas, she blocked me out of nowhere and I never managed to meet up with her and 'seal the deal'. She was Muslim and from a strict family so it might have been a bit of a challenge either way. But would have been heavenly.

Note: I disclaim all responsibility for the "sharing" he did above, it was all MarcosZeitola that did it, not me!

[Vari]

Going on welfare is preferable to keeping the system going.

The current economic system in place simply isn't viable. It requires endless growth of the workforce but the workforce is shrinking pretty much everywhere and even the countries most skilled labor immigrants come from are experiencing their own population issues. So, yeah, regardless of what we do... we're doomed. The system is doomed. Go away, stay, doesn't matter. It simply isn't viable in the long run.

There is one amazing country where birth rate is 3.0 and stays like this since 1990. Israel is it.