Are Prostitutes Better Than Normal Women?

[NGH607]

Let's take the thread in a different direction. Talk about your experiences with prostitutes and brothels in foreign countries. It's always fun to read.

[NGH607]

Prostitution makes no sense in countries where hooking up is easy, but makes absolute sense in countries where it's hard.

For instance, I heard the Netherlands is hard to get laid. Hence, prostitution makes a lot of sense there. However, some Eastern European countries it is easy to get laid. Hence, prostitution would make less sense. However, I do believe that men in the English speaking countries, specially have it the hardest it's both hard to get laid and prostitution is illegal.

Prostitution should be legal and regulated everywhere. Only then will men finally chill the f**k out, once they f**k enough whores. Less than 10% of men are capable of learning game/PUA. Prostitution is absolutely necessary. And it's a good thing. There's nothing more liberating than paying money for sex

[NGH607]

@Pixel--Dude
I'm not necessarily saying not to score with vaxxed women, but the main reason I personally would worry about it is: If she's having intense orgasms (or even is just getting on the way there but is really excited breathing heavily with her heart pounding) while we're going at it, what if she outright drops dead from the high rates of heart failure that the vax has caused? That would be bad!! Think of all those athletes dropping dead on the field after they got vaxxed... I would not want that to happen with a girlfriend while I was banging her brains out in bed!

This is another area where I count myself lucky to have gotten romantically involved with black women: Not just mine, but tons more black women out there are anti-vaxxers bigtime.
A really big population of the black and white populations can't stand each other, and I'm under no illusions about forced-at-gunpoint integration by jew communists working out in the USSA or 'West', but another cool fact to those of us who might end up leaving and moving to a black country:
Black Africans were by far the wisest in terms of "vaccine hesitancy" against the synagogue of satan's vaccine, because they are wary that the NWO/JWO is trying to use the vax to sterilize and/or kill them as part of their depopulation agenda. I posted a thread awhile back compiling some of the evidence that a lot of black leaders even got assassinated by the NWO for trying to protect their own people and nations from the vaccine.

I read that only 11% of Africans took the vax. God is protecting Africa, and I believe Africa is where the future will be, once the vaxxed die off. In places like China, India, Philippines, many asian countries, Dubai, middle east, the vax rate is like 90% or higher. Those places are f***ed. Massive die-off over the next year or two, or few.

And yea, African women are the best. Such awesome women, hot, sexy, humble but strong, perfect.

[Cornfed]

I read that only 11% of Africans took the vax. God is protecting Africa, and I believe Africa is where the future will be, once the vaxxed die off.

Obviously black Africans will in turn die off without humans feeding them, as happened in Zimbabwe and various places.

[NGH607]

I read that only 11% of Africans took the vax. God is protecting Africa, and I believe Africa is where the future will be, once the vaxxed die off.

Obviously black Africans will in turn die off without humans feeding them, as happened in Zimbabwe and various places.

maybe, who knows. But God has spared the Africans from the mark of the beast, unlike the West and Asia and South America.

I see a new age dawning, where people return to live in harmony with nature, and the africans are the most natural of all races. Hence this is why I believe God has spared them. In fact there probably is no personal god except the full whole, the buddhist concept. God is everything, including us.

[Pixel--Dude]

@Pixel--Dude I already pointed out a lot of reasons why promiscuity and hookup culture is toxic in the following paragraphs written earlier...

1. Part of it is because PUA and hookup culture are more threatening to long term relationships then prostitution is. I used to be more liberal because I thought that hookup culture and more long term relationships could co-exist. Going to college taught me that they can't. If you have a hookup culture it is going to drown out love based, long term relationships. To me, I consider PUA to just be "learn how to sleep around" and I don't think that's a skill worth obtaining. Hookup culture defines itself in opposition to long term relationships and positions itself as an alternative to it. Hookup culture has displaced basically every method of finding a long term relationship. Nightclubs, bars, dating apps, and teenage parties are all dominated by casual sex seekers to the point where people searching for long term relationships essentially have nowhere to go to find that. In countries that have a lot of prostitution on the other hand, it doesn't seem to threaten long term relationships. Prostitution is much more capable of existing in its own universe essentially and leaving long term relationships alone.

2. PUA and hookup culture directly encourage avoidant attachment styles on the part of both men and women. Hookup culture creates an atmosphere of "whoever cares the least wins." Hookup culture is directly related to the increasing number of people who think its basically lame to make love the most important thing in your life or to honestly make your romantic partner your number 1 priority in life. Hookup culture attacks "neediness" and in doing so shames people for having emotional needs. Hookup culture also created the idea that being "dependent" on somebody is a bad thing. I actually think co-dependency creates a stronger bond between people. All of the strongest bonds formed between people in non-romantic situations involve dependency of some kind. Children are dependent on parents. The strongest friendships form out of need. Bonds forged between men at war result from being dependent on one another for survival. Why would romantic relationships work any differently? Why is it suddenly romantic relationships that we glorify independence?

I used to watch PUA videos, and the thing I always hated most about them was this advocation of avoidant attachment styles. I saw how my parents were growing up. My dad never withheld his affection from my mother. He would be, in the eyes of many people today, a simp who excessively lavishes affection on her. He is constantly telling her how cute she is, how much he loves her, she is definitely the number 1 priority in his life and he wants nothing more then to make her happy. Many people would call that being a simp these days, but my parents have the strongest relationship I've ever seen. Its the kind of relationship I want to have some day. I do not want to feel like I have to pretend for the rest of my life that my career or something else is more important to me then my wife. I especially don't want to have to pretend that is the case to my own wife. I realized that PUA advice may work, but it would create an awful society is we all followed it. We need to demand better then that. Instead of learning to play by the rules of the game we need to rewrite them and go back to the old rules where it was perfectly fine to be expressive and passionate about your love for your girl.


3. Hookup culture has strong ties to rampant levels of sexual assault and harassment. Hookup culture intentionally glorifies sexual situations where consent is ambiguous and this leads to varying levels of sexual assault. Consider the way that people grind in nightclubs for example. A lot of guys just walk up behind random girls and start grinding them. This is because a big part of hookup culture is essentially guys' competing to sleep with as many girls as possible and a big part of achieving that objective tends to be coercion. Prostitution on the other hand completely eliminates the ambiguity in the situation and makes it 100% clear whether sex is okay or not. There's no blurred lines or grey area at all.

That's how promiscuity and hookup culture damage love and relationships. Mr. Man provided a lot of great evidence for how promiscuity damages the family structure by birthing kids out of wedlock and forcing them to be raised by single mothers.

Promiscuous behavior is directly related to the crime epidemic in America. Kids born to single mothers are significantly more likely to commit crimes as a result of absent father figures. Not only that but child abuse is way more common when the mother introduces a step-father compared to when a child is raised by his or her biological parents...



The horrific results of rampant promiscuity on Earth prove that God was right to condemn promiscuous behavior and that the church does have a legitimate claim to authority over moral behavior.

If your natural desires are to love one woman, to take care of her, marry her and enjoy frequent, affectionate sex with her, to raise children with her, to be loyal to her, to nurture her femininity, protect her innocence and cherish her love for you then I have no problem with your "natural instincts." If your natural instinct is to pump and dump and make excuses for your behavior because you refuse to acknowledge that there are in-fact negative consequences to your behavior even if you can't immediately see the result of it, then yes, we have a problem with what you claim to be your natural instincts.

All that being said, I've mentioned before that I don't really look down on prostitutes. After reading Mr. Man's post, however, I am seriously starting to think that the services offered by prostitutes should not include intercourse.

If traditional lifestyles were not conductive to human happiness then why is the world becoming so miserable, angry, violent, and depressed ever since we abandoned them? 20% of American adults now are on anti-depressants. That is f***ing astonishing and quite frankly terrifying. Our suicide rate has been slowly rising for decades but is now higher then its ever been. We have over 100,000 people a year now killing themselves through drug overdoses. Rampage attacks and school shootings are becoming monthly occurrences and before the school shooters popped up we had lots of serial killers during the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Weird how all these problems just happened to coincide with rising liberalism? Think it must be something else? Think again, being unmarried can literally kill you...

The entire rise in white mortality rates in recent years has happened exclusively to unmarried men...
https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/8374m

Marriage is associated with a 2.4x higher chance of early recovery from depression...
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaps ... cle/206644

Marriage has a protective effect on survival...
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 011-0032-5

Single men die younger...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1506209.stm

Marital status has also been consistently associated with better mental health. Compared with their married counterparts, single 1 2 S. R. Braithwaite, R. Delevi, and F. D. Fincham men and women have higher levels of depression, anxiety, mood disorders, adjustment problems, and other forms of psychological distress (Coombs, 1991; Cotten, 1999; Simon, 2002). Marital status has also been shown to be an important predictor of alcoholism and drinking problems (Hradilova, 2005), with unmarried people experiencing a higher rate of alcohol-related problems (Woodruff, Guze, & Clayton, 1972). In short, across a number of different indices, there is strong and consistent empirical evidence that married people experience better physical and psychological well-being than their unmarried counterparts.”
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... e_students

88% of Americans are happy or content with their married sex lives...
https://www.imom.com/poll-shows-sex-wit ... ulfilling/

"That’s right. This same study found that the more religious a married couple, the more frequent and satisfying their sex. Religious people who are married, by far and away have the best sex lives. They have the most frequent sex, the most satisfying sex, the most fun sex and the longest-lived sex lives. When the researchers looked at which religious denominations had the best sex, they learned that the faithful who are married reported that not only was their sex more frequent, but also they were far more likely to rate their sex as being extremely satisfying. Conservative evangelical Protestant women, the survey found, reported the most satisfying sex and the most orgasms: 32 percent said they achieve orgasm every time they make love. Mainline Protestants and Catholics were only five points behind, while those with no religious affiliation were way down—at 22 percent."

On top of this, I will point out that despite Asian countries having a reputation for high suicide rates, Asian countries actually tend to have lower suicide rates then Western liberal countries do... Especially the Asian countries that are more traditional. Not only are their suicide rates lower but their drug overdose rates and percentage of the population that is on anti-depressants is nowhere near as high as it is in liberal countries.

Asian countries:

Thailand:
Suicide rate: 8.0 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 1.1 per 100,000.

Philippines:
Suicide rate: 2.5 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 0.73 per 100,000.

Japan:
Suicide rate: 12.2 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 0.33 per 100,000.

Indonesia:
Suicide rate: 2.6 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 0.38 per 100,000.

Malaysia:
Suicide rate: 5.8 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 1.09 per 100,000.

China:
Suicide rate: 6.7 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 1.34 per 100,000.

South Korea:
Suicide rate: 21.2
Drug overdose rate: 0.20 per 100,000.

Western countries:

United States:
Suicide rate: 14.5 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 24.6 per 100,000.

Iceland:
Suicide rate: 11.2 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 22.1 per 100,000.

Sweden:
Suicide rate: 12.4 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 12.4 per 100,000.

Australia:
Suicide rate: 11.3 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 11.6 per 100,000.

Canada:
Suicide rate: 10.3 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 10.4 per 100,000.

Finland:
Suicide rate: 13.4 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 7.6 per 100,000.

Norway:
Suicide rate: 11.8 per 100,000.
Drug overdose rate: 7.7 per 100,000.

As you can see, Europe is dealing with a much bigger suicide problem then Asia is despite Asia's reputation for high suicide rates. What's particularly different though is that Western drug overdose rates are extremely high compared to Asian countries, with the overdose rate alone being higher then most Asian countries suicide rates. The drug overdose rate in the US and Iceland is even higher then South Korea's suicide rate and overdose rate combined.

Its worth noting that South Korea is the only Asian country that seems to have a serious issue with depression and suicide. South Korea is also the least traditional Asian country with the lowest fertility and marriage rate.

I think you made some good points in your post. However, I still don't agree that promiscuity is responsible for these rising suicide rates. The problem is society itself that causes these suicides. This attitude that we need to "get ahead" instilled into us at a young age and most people grow up with that attitude all through their life. It is applicable to every kind of relationship, including romantic relationships, friendships and relationship with family... A girl goes into the world feeling like she's entitled to the white wedding with all the bells and whistles it's her special day, valentines day is all about her, everything is always about her and the guy is little more than a work horse who she will try and mold into her idea of a perfect man, rather than love him for who he is. I see this kind of dynamic in modern marriages a lot. It doesn't appeal.

But like I said before, the traditional lifestyle isn't for everyone. It is good if a guy wants to make his girl his number one priority. But not everyone wants that kind of relationship where they are joined at the hip 24 hours a day and not everyone cares about marriage or other traditions which are part of a religious tradition. As I mentioned in a previous post, I would prefer a pagan forest wedding such as a joining of the hands ceremony where you leave your guests in the forest and go off to consummate your marriage lol

I have a daughter to a woman I thought was the love of my life, but I was quickly disillusioned by the idea that I would settle down with this woman. Her attitude made life hell. Should I have married her and stayed in a toxic relationship? Or is it better to just move on and seek greener pastures? Lol. If you and MrMan have the idyllic marriage you both always wanted then I'm glad you were both lucky enough to find that one woman you clicked with. For most of us it isn't that easy.

I don't think the church has any authority on the issue. Especially when a lot of the West is becoming secular, I wouldn't say the UK was a Christian country for example. Their rules are not applicable in people's lives and the Bible is not a guide to what is and what is not moral. The church don't exactly set the best example anyway when it comes to morality. Priests preaching about the sanctity of self sacrifice in their golden trimmed robes and their sports cars while people are starving to death in the streets. The church is a joke. It's little wonder so few people take them seriously. Plus they've developed a racket. How much does the Church make a year? Something close to 38 million? I don't see any of that going towards helping anyone.

The main issue is personal freedom. For someone like me, I hold personal freedom highest above everything else. If I want to spend time with my significant other, it has to be a privilege, not an obligation. People now have less and less freedom and I think that can have a detrimental effect on mental health. The soul being forced to do things it doesn't want to do in order to get by in an unnatural society.

[Pixel--Dude]

"The idea of defiling yourself by sleeping with a woman who has defiled herself by sleeping with hundreds of other men may not resonate with you. You may not even be grossed out if she's had sex with ten men right before having sex with you. But think about children conceived by prostitutes. if she gets pregnant, she either kills the child, or the child is raised without his father. If you do a little research, you will find that children raised without a father in the home are more likely to become juvenile delinquents, to have trouble with the law, to have low grades, to get pregnant out of wedlock, etc. Sleeping with random women who don't charge you money--- the free prostitute (zero dollar, zero pound prostitutes) has the same problem. There are also diseases that are spread this way. So it is an ethical issue."

This is rubbish. I have never seen sleeping with anyone as "defiling myself" a prostitute is still a human being ffs. She's providing a service and if she's any good she will use protection and have regular health checks. Same as anyone should. The whole thing with disease is a roll.of the dice anyway regardless of who you sleep with. Say we have a prostitute who sleeps with 10 incels in a day, and compare her with some dude's wife who slept with 1 guy in her whole life before meeting her husband, but her ex partner had a disease. Which woman is "dirty" or "immoral"? Catching something like an STD does not deminish someone's value as a human being. They just got unlucky. Diseases happen. It's life. Get the hell over it.

I didn't say fornication diminished your, or her, value as a human being. I married a virgin, so I don't have to worry about the one guy who had AIDS, chlamydia, etc.

Condoms aren't 100% effective. I read the they were about 92% effective. If you have sex 200 times in a year, that's like having sex over 12 times with a condom... for having babies. Condoms don't protect all the parts that can get venereal diseases, because there are many different types and some come from skin contact. And you had sex with a condom, which is what... like 20% of 40% of sex without a condom for sensation, and what about the emotional intimacy factor? Condoms might diminish that a bit, but having sex with prostitutes would have to be rather bleak in that regard.

Also, don't you find it a bit gross to have sex with a woman who had sex with five, ten, or fifteen other men the same day she had sex with you? What about if she didn't use condoms? I'd imagine back in the day, they didn't.

No, you misunderstood me. He didn't kill himself because of puritanism. He also didn't kill himself because of his wife. (Even though some of his family use her as a scapegoat.) I'm actually still on very good terms with his widow and consider her a good friend. As far as I knew they loved each other. (He was a very kind and loving guy) but that doesn't mean they didn't have their ups and downs. To be honest nobody knows why he killed himself. I suspect it was because of society and how artificial and fake everything is, including people.

Again, I'm sorry to hear that he did that, but how is this an argument agains tmarriage?

I called you a hypocrite because I don't recognise the authority of the church or how a wedding makes the act of sex moral.

What does that have to do with hypocrisy? You haven't presented any evidence that I am acting or not being genuine?

You could bang your wife 30 times a day (power to you lol) and that is righteous and good because you are married. I could hook up with a girl who I find attractive and who finds me attractive just for a night. I'm the one who is immoral because we weren't married?

One is moral, and the other isn't. Except 30 times might cause physical damage and pain, so it could be immoral in that case.

Marriage is found in cultures across the globe. Romans instituted the church wedding, adapting a wedding from Roman culture after accepting Christianity. The idea of a father giving his daughter in marriage to a man, and that that woman goes with that man and not another, is found all across cultures all around the world. If you argue it's a product of culture, it's found across cultures. So how do you explain that?

I don't care how many men she's slept with that day. So long as she's clean when I get there. There's no emotional attachment, it's just a business transaction. She needs money, I need some fanny. It's mutually beneficial. It's consensual, and in a sense it's necessary. Prostitutes need to eat and pay bills as well. So why live on a knife edge working for some company 40 hours a week and risk getting laid off and not be able to pay the bills etc when they can just f**k a load of horny incels at 15 minutes or 30 minutes a go and earn way more money than if she was working for a company. She has bodily autonomy and the freedom to choose what she does. Plus if she doesn't accept the bible as a moral compass then it isn't even immoral. It's the society she lives in that is immoral.

Marriage is found in cultures all over the globe. Some people meet someone who they want to stay with all their life and that's fantastic. Like I said to Outcast I'm pleased for you guys that you found someone you both click with. A lot of people can't find someone they have a connection with on that level because things like puritanism, feminism and other such unnatural thought forms have pervaded society on a fundamental level, furthering the divide between men and women. I think there is only a couple of girls I can actually relate to or understand, and I have friendships with them, but my life is void of someone who I'm interested in getting tied down with. Plus I don't want all the responsibilities associated with marriage and relationships. I value personal freedom higher than all that.

[Pixel--Dude]

I read that only 11% of Africans took the vax. God is protecting Africa, and I believe Africa is where the future will be, once the vaxxed die off.

Obviously black Africans will in turn die off without humans feeding them, as happened in Zimbabwe and various places.

Black Africans were doing fine until the British came along and commandeered their land. So instead of growing food to feed themselves they then had to grow food to sell to pay rent to British land owners. Black chicks are the best and the hottest. I'm talking to a black chick at the moment and she's the most wholesome girl I've met. Not to mention she's sexy as f**k lol

[Pixel--Dude]

@Pixel--Dude
I'm not necessarily saying not to score with vaxxed women, but the main reason I personally would worry about it is: If she's having intense orgasms (or even is just getting on the way there but is really excited breathing heavily with her heart pounding) while we're going at it, what if she outright drops dead from the high rates of heart failure that the vax has caused? That would be bad!! Think of all those athletes dropping dead on the field after they got vaxxed... I would not want that to happen with a girlfriend while I was banging her brains out in bed!

This is another area where I count myself lucky to have gotten romantically involved with black women: Not just mine, but tons more black women out there are anti-vaxxers bigtime.
A really big population of the black and white populations can't stand each other, and I'm under no illusions about forced-at-gunpoint integration by jew communists working out in the USSA or 'West', but another cool fact to those of us who might end up leaving and moving to a black country:
Black Africans were by far the wisest in terms of "vaccine hesitancy" against the synagogue of satan's vaccine, because they are wary that the NWO/JWO is trying to use the vax to sterilize and/or kill them as part of their depopulation agenda. I posted a thread awhile back compiling some of the evidence that a lot of black leaders even got assassinated by the NWO for trying to protect their own people and nations from the vaccine.

Hahaha yeah. Black chicks are the best. I haven't heard much about the details of how the vaccine has killed people. But I have heard it has been killing people. I definitely wouldn't trust anything peddled by that evil bastard Bill Gates. I think he's the epitome of evil. Did you see the video clip of that nurse who had the jab on television and then collapsed immediately after?

https://youtu.be/nhb1zIYXUP8

The nurse's name is Tiffany Dover, conspiracy theorists believe she died shortly after having the Pfizer vaccine as her Instagram and twitter accounts were never used again and there seems to be no sign of the woman anywhere. Obviously the state have "fact checked" this information, claiming she's made several statements about how she's fine and well, even though all these statements were given by the media outlets fact checking the claim lol. No actual video footage of the nurse.

[Pixel--Dude]

Prostitution makes no sense in countries where hooking up is easy, but makes absolute sense in countries where it's hard.

For instance, I heard the Netherlands is hard to get laid. Hence, prostitution makes a lot of sense there. However, some Eastern European countries it is easy to get laid. Hence, prostitution would make less sense. However, I do believe that men in the English speaking countries, specially have it the hardest it's both hard to get laid and prostitution is illegal.

Prostitution should be legal and regulated everywhere. Only then will men finally chill the f**k out, once they f**k enough whores. Less than 10% of men are capable of learning game/PUA. Prostitution is absolutely necessary. And it's a good thing. There's nothing more liberating than paying money for sex

I agree. Prostitution should be made legal so these prostitutes are protected by the state rather than some pimp. Although I suspect most of them would work without declaring it to prevent Uncle Sam from taking his cut of her hard earned money she's just f***ed someone for lol

[Cornfed]

Black Africans were doing fine until the British came along and commandeered their land.

To generalise this, Bantus were fine until humans dressed them in people clothes, supplied them with human technology and food and medicine and generally forced them to live in a kind of ongoing giant chimp's tea party. They rightfully should be a small number of individuals living wild and free in western and central tropical Africa where their population is kept low by disease and such. We really owe it to them and the world to put things back the way we found them.

[Pixel--Dude]

Black Africans were doing fine until the British came along and commandeered their land.

To generalise this, Bantus were fine until humans dressed them in people clothes, supplied them with human technology and food and medicine and generally forced them to live in a kind of ongoing giant chimp's tea party. They rightfully should be a small number of individuals living wild and free in western and central tropical Africa where their population is kept low by disease and such. We really owe it to them and the world to put things back the way we found them.

I don't like the implications of your response. What is it about black people that upsets or offends you so much? Black women are superior to white women for a start because they naturally have nice thicc booties which white women have to try and replicate with silicone ass implants. Plus mate, a guys masculinity is reflected by the size of the arse of the broad he's going for. So guys who like a big black booty are more masculine than guys who go for white skinny ass cracker bitches.

Black people were doing alright until the A-hole British Empire came over and occupied all their land. They did the same with the Native American Indians and Aborigines. The British were less than human when they committed these atrocities. Like white people are any better than black people. We all bleed the same colour my dude.

[Cornfed]

Black people were doing alright until the A-hole British Empire came over and occupied all their land. They did the same with the Native American Indians and Aborigines.

I agree. It is not just the British of course. Before human contact blacks and Abos had it made. Females did all the little necessary work not because they were good at it but because the males could beat them up if they didn't. Males lazed around most of the time and occasionally roused themselves to hunt or whatever. They maintained this idyllic lifestyle by having a low population continually culled by disease and such. We have a moral duty to return them to this natural, happy state.

[Pixel--Dude]

Black people were doing alright until the A-hole British Empire came over and occupied all their land. They did the same with the Native American Indians and Aborigines.

I agree. It is not just the British of course. Before human contact blacks and Abos had it made. Females did all the little necessary work not because they were good at it but because the males could beat them up if they didn't. Males lazed around most of the time and occasionally roused themselves to hunt or whatever. They maintained this idyllic lifestyle by having a low population continually culled by disease and such. We have a moral duty to return them to this natural, happy state.

Nothing healthy about that outlook at all. I don't see anyone as subhuman because of the colour of their skin, but more because of their values.

[Cornfed]

Nothing healthy about that outlook at all. I don't see anyone as subhuman because of the colour of their skin, but more because of their values.

If you are going to pretend that blacks are like white people then I'd have to conclude that you hate blacks. It would be like someone claiming that cats are peaceful animals that are really kind to mice and small birds. Clearly that person doesn't like the way cats really are.