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US fails to crack top 10 as best place to live

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Post by zboy1 » December 1st, 2012, 5:45 am

You should read the comments section below the article! Looks like Americans are finally waking up to the American Dream myth!

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Post by abcdavid01 » December 1st, 2012, 6:04 am

America operates on debt to China, but that's only symbolic of wider cultural trends. When Chinese people buy a new house or car, they'll make a 75% down payment. Americans will pay $99 on a car up front and default down the road. Savings vs. Whipping out credit cards. Chinese are just smarter with their money.
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Post by Ginger » December 1st, 2012, 6:55 am

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Post by ladislav » December 1st, 2012, 9:00 am

Ginger wrote:I am not surprised.

What the US is nowadays is just a joke compared to it's former glory.

... and a lot of it's citizens think they are 'innately superior' just by having a US passport. Common profile heading at dating sites: "I'm an american", "Blue eyed US citizen". On dating sites, if an american gets rejected, he'll immediately send back an email, "I'm an american, {insert sense of entitlement rant here}" oh please! (majority does this, though not all, obviously).

I know lots of good men and women from the US, but the majority that I have crossed paths with are no better than the average pinoy/pinay scum from my country.

Just by reading how bitter the guys from US who post here at HA are about the US is enough to convince me not to consider it on top 10 of places to move to, maybe top 30 or top 50, but nope, not top 10.

I don't mean to offend american HAers, just being honest.
Are these Americans on Asian dating sites? Because that is what it sounds like. They would never say it when dating other Americans or Euros. The guys would be as humble as lambs facing white women. The ones who flock to Asian sites are not the creme of the crop. And most Pinays on those dating sites- Oh, my God. The worst people from both countries meet on them. Not all again, but many.
This is why I don't understand why people thinks it's still the land of milk and honey,
Because, well, it is 40 pesos to the dollar, that means the salary is 40 times bigger here in the US. That is what I heard some Pinoys say.
But on the other hand, the US has given me all I wanted provided that I combined it with other countries.
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Post by Ginger » December 1st, 2012, 9:19 am

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Post by ladislav » December 3rd, 2012, 5:55 am

Poor Filipinos think the US is a land of milk and honey; some middle class ones also go to work as nurses or teachers to send some dollars back home to the family. It beats working in Saudi where they are paid $400 a month if lucky- the middle class and $120 - the poor.

A taxi driver in the USA would make $3,000 a month. After taxes, he will keep some $2,200. If it is a Filipino, he will stay at his uncle's house, pay small rent, and all of his expenses will be some $1,200 a month. He will save $1,000. After a year, it is half a million pesos. Now, he can go back to Samar, buy a house, a jeepney and live a good life.

A similar arrangement is for a nurse. With overtime, they will be making some $5,000 a month, after taxes, maybe $3,300, live frugally with some members of their family; end up saving some $24,000 a year. After three years, 3 million pesos. A teacher will save maybe 2 million pesos during the same time. Not bad.

The cushiest arrangement for Pinoys would be to get a US gov't job. Pinoy guys will go into the military with everything paid and then get a retirement. The US gov't hires non-citizens to work for it. Amazing! In the Philippines, gov't positions are for native-born citizens only, not just citizens, But in the USA, you got green light just with a green card.

Or a post office job- and then citizenship. a cushy job! So, for many people, it is a way up. If they are poor. Now, if you are an upper middle class Pinay, well, then I guess, there is no need.
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Post by Ghost » December 3rd, 2012, 7:05 am

For a dystopian police state control grid, I guess it's amazing that it still ranks.

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Post by sushiman » December 4th, 2012, 12:49 pm

The US didn't make the top ten educational systems either: ... 00692.html

It got DESTROYED by South Korea and Finland in a very detailed survey by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU).

As far as living I'd pick so many places over the US: Singapore, HongKong, Shanghai, Seoul, London, Milan.

Sorry, but the US is a garbage dump, and has no future. Citizenship is something to keep for as long as it is useful (a balance between taxes and passport usefulness), but no reason to live there.

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Post by steve55 » December 4th, 2012, 6:36 pm

Also found this completley seperate study from a different source that was on the front page of yahoo finance home page today -The US is nowhere to be found. How sad. MOst Americans have no clue. If you ask the average American whether they would think the US is in the top 10 of these quality of life or best places to live surveys, most Americans ignorantly say yes. Most Americans havent a clue. Ignorance is bliss huh? ... 12169.html

Can there be a city that is crime and pollution free, with excellent public transport and great schools to boast?

Human resources consulting firm Mercer has put together a list of cities that come closest to offering you all that. In its 2012 Quality of Living report it looks at living conditions in 221 cities worldwide and ranks them against New York as a base city in 10 categories - economy, socio-cultural environment, politics, education, and healthcare.

Cities in some of the world's biggest economies like the U.S. and Japan don't make the cut. So, which are the world's best places to live in? Read ahead to find out.

1. Vienna, Austria
Austria's most populous city – Vienna – has won the title of the world's best city for quality of life since 2009. It is also one of eight European cities to make the top 10 list, showing the region's dominance in the survey.

Vienna is the cultural, economic, and political center of the country. It has the highest per capita GDP among all Austrian cities at over $55,000. Vienna's ability to transform old infrastructure into modern dwellings won the city the 2010 United Nations urban planning award for improving the living conditions of its residents. Under a multimillion-dollar program, the city refurbished more than 5,000 buildings with nearly 250,000 apartments. Vienna is also the world's No. 1 destination for conferences, drawing five million tourists a year — equivalent to three tourists for every resident.

The country's economy has, however, not been immune to the crisis plaguing Europe, and shrunk 0.1 percent in the third quarter of the year, as the European Union entered its second recession since 2009.

2. Zurich, Switzerland
Zurich, Switzerland's largest city, keeps the number two spot from last year after holding the title of the city with the best quality of life in the world previously. It is also one of three Swiss cities to make the top 10 rankings – tying with Germany for the most number of cities on the list.

Known as a global financial center, one out of every nine jobs in Switzerland is based in Zurich. Its low tax rates attract overseas companies and the assets of the 82 banks based there are equivalent to more than 85 percent of the total value of assets held in Switzerland. The city is also the country's biggest tourist destination, famous for its lakeside location and chain of hills that run from north to south, providing an extensive range of leisure activities.

The cost of living in Zurich is the sixth highest in the world, according to Mercer. Both Zurich and Geneva make Switzerland the most expensive country to live in in Western Europe. The city also attracts people to buy luxury properties here, because of its low taxes, safety record and good education system, according to real estate firm Knight Frank.

3. Auckland, New Zealand
New Zealand's largest and most populous city, Auckland, offers the best quality of life in the Asia-Pacific region, now for the second year in a row. It has been consistently placed within the top five best places to live in for the past six years.

Auckland is uniquely set between two harbors, with 11 extinct volcanoes and numerous islands making it the city with the world's largest boat ownership per person. Auckland is New Zealand's economic powerhouse - its 1.4 million people account for more than 30 percent of the country's population and contribute 35 percent to the country's GDP. Auckland is also home to the most educated people in the country, with nearly 37 percent of its working population holding a bachelor's degree or higher.

In March, the city launched a 30-year initiative called "The Auckland Plan" to make it the world's most livable city. The plan aims to tackle challenges in transport, housing, job creation and environment protection. However, the city has been impacted by the global economic slowdown. In the third quarter New Zealand's unemployment rate hit a 13-year high of 7.3 percent.

4. Munich, Germany
Munich is Germany's third largest city and one of the country's key economic centers. It is also one of three German cities to dominate the top 10 rankings for the best quality of life.

Holding on its fourth spot from last year, Munich is home to some of Germany's most notable businesses, including engineering firm Siemens and insurer Allianz. The city generates nearly 30 percent of the gross domestic product of the State of Bavaria. Munich's per capita purchasing power was more than $33,700 in 2011, the highest among all German cities and 30 percent above the national average. Drawing immigrants to its industries from all over the world, more than a fifth of the city's residents are foreigners.

Munich ties fellow German city Frankfurt for having the second best infrastructure in the world, according to Mercer. In total, four German cities including Dusseldorf and Hamburg dominate the top 10 infrastructure rankings highlighting the country's first-class airports and high standard of public services.

5. Vancouver, Canada
Vancouver is the only Canadian and North American city to make the top 10 list this year, similar to 2011.

Vancouver has made it to a number of rankings on the world's most livable cities over the past decade and has been among the top five in the Mercer quality of living survey for the past six years. Home to one of the mildest climates in Canada, Vancouver is also its greenest city with the smallest carbon footprint of any major city in North America. Surrounded by water and snowy mountains, Vancouver's government constantly promotes green building, planning, and technology with the ambition of becoming the world's greenest city by 2020.

In terms of infrastructure, Vancouver also tops the rankings for North America at ninth with Montreal and Atlanta landing in 13th place. Overall, Canadian cities still dominate the top of the rankings for North America despite only Vancouver making it into the global top 10. Ottawa comes in at 14, Toronto at 15 and Montreal at 23, while it's closet U.S. competitor is Honolulu at 28 globally.

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Post by zboy1 » December 4th, 2012, 10:12 pm

Does the "greatest country in the world" let crap like this happend in their country:

Cops question man suspected of pushing Queens dad to his death in Times Square subway station ... eyxHns2VNP

New Yorkers do nothing to help man pushed into traintracks!

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