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I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spectrum

Postby BlackKnight » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:52 am

It's really not hard to see when you're a medical expert like me. Most ASDs are socially awkward in a manner that's not easily understood. Friends and family members often see a highly intelligent, talented individual, and cannot comprehend why the person with AS struggles during routine social or organizational experiences. Asperger Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the higher-functioning end of the autism spectrum. An individual’s symptoms can range from mild to severe. While sharing many of the same characteristics as other Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD’s) including Pervasive Developmental Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) and High-Functioning Autism (HFA), AS has been recognized as a distinct medical diagnosis in Europe for almost 60 years, but has only been included in the U.S. medical diagnostic manual since 1994 (“Asperger Disorder” in the DSM-IV). This is why Winston has gone untreated for so long.

People with Asperger Syndrome usually experience:

[*]Trouble with “theory of mind,” that is, trouble perceiving the intentions or emotions of other people, due to a tendency to ignore or misinterpret such cues as facial expression, body language, and vocal intonation.

This is why HA people end up hating women, they have zero discerning ability

[*]Slower than average auditory, visual, or intellectual processing, which can contribute to difficulties keeping up in a range of social settings—a class, a soccer game, a party.

[*]Challenges with “executive functioning,” that is, organizing, initiating, analyzing, prioritizing, and completing tasks.

[*]A tendency to focus on the details of a given situation and miss the big picture.

[*]Intense, narrow, time-consuming personal interest(s) — sometimes eccentric in nature — that may result in social isolation, or interfere with the completion of everyday tasks. (On the other hand, some interests can lead to social connection and even careers. For example, there are children and adults with an encyclopedic knowledge of vacuum cleaners.)

[*]Inflexibility and resistance to change. Change may trigger anxiety, while familiar objects, settings, and routines offer reassurance. One result is difficulty transitioning from one activity to another: from one class to another, from work time to lunch, from talking to listening. Moving to a new school, new town, or new social role can be an enormous challenge.

[*]Feeling somehow different and disconnected from the rest of the world and not “fitting in”—sometimes called “wrong planet” syndrome.

[*]Extreme sensitivity—or relative insensitivity—to sights, sounds, smells, tastes, or textures. Many people outgrow these sensory issues at least to some extent as they mature.

[*]Vulnerability to stress, sometimes escalating to psychological or emotional problems including low self-esteem, depression, anxiety, and obsessive-compulsive behaviors.

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AS affects people lifelong, but many can use their cognitive and intellectual abilities to compensate for some of the challenges they face, so as people grow, AS can be managed. AS people usually have excellent rote memories and verbal skills. We hope this information helps your awareness of Asperger Syndrome. Knowledge is the first step toward positive change in the lives of you and your loved ones. Good luck on your journey to understanding the role AS has played in your life.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby IraqVet2003 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:09 am

BlackKnight wrote:It's really not hard to see when you're a medical expert like me. Most ASDs are socially awkward in a manner that's not easily understood. Friends and family members often see a highly intelligent, talented individual, and cannot comprehend why the person with AS struggles during routine social or organizational experiences. Asperger Syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder on the higher-functioning end of the autism spectrum. An individual’s symptoms can range from mild to severe. While sharing many of the same characteristics as other Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD’s) including Pervasive Developmental Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) and High-Functioning Autism (HFA), AS has been recognized as a distinct medical diagnosis in Europe for almost 60 years, but has only been included in the U.S. medical diagnostic manual since 1994 (“Asperger Disorder” in the DSM-IV). This is why Winston has gone untreated for so long.

People with Asperger Syndrome usually experience:

[*]Trouble with “theory of mind,” that is, trouble perceiving the intentions or emotions of other people, due to a tendency to ignore or misinterpret such cues as facial expression, body language, and vocal intonation.

This is why HA people end up hating women, they have zero discerning ability

[*]Slower than average auditory, visual, or intellectual processing, which can contribute to difficulties keeping up in a range of social settings—a class, a soccer game, a party.

[*]Challenges with “executive functioning,” that is, organizing, initiating, analyzing, prioritizing, and completing tasks.

[*]A tendency to focus on the details of a given situation and miss the big picture.

[*]Intense, narrow, time-consuming personal interest(s) — sometimes eccentric in nature — that may result in social isolation, or interfere with the completion of everyday tasks. (On the other hand, some interests can lead to social connection and even careers. For example, there are children and adults with an encyclopedic knowledge of vacuum cleaners.)

[*]Inflexibility and resistance to change. Change may trigger anxiety, while familiar objects, settings, and routines offer reassurance. One result is difficulty transitioning from one activity to another: from one class to another, from work time to lunch, from talking to listening. Moving to a new school, new town, or new social role can be an enormous challenge.

[*]Feeling somehow different and disconnected from the rest of the world and not “fitting in”—sometimes called “wrong planet” syndrome.

[*]Extreme sensitivity—or relative insensitivity—to sights, sounds, smells, tastes, or textures. Many people outgrow these sensory issues at least to some extent as they mature.

[*]Vulnerability to stress, sometimes escalating to psychological or emotional problems including low self-esteem, depression, anxiety, and obsessive-compulsive behaviors.

Visuals

Image

Image

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AS affects people lifelong, but many can use their cognitive and intellectual abilities to compensate for some of the challenges they face, so as people grow, AS can be managed. AS people usually have excellent rote memories and verbal skills. We hope this information helps your awareness of Asperger Syndrome. Knowledge is the first step toward positive change in the lives of you and your loved ones. Good luck on your journey to understanding the role AS has played in your life.



This is a very interesting post!!!! Black Knight my own mother I given me a book on Asperger's Spectrum suggesting that I my have it but undiagnosed.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Ghost » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:18 pm

It's really not hard to see when you're a medical expert like me.


Because medical professionals make wild mass diagnoses on the internet based on insults.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Blue Murder » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:33 pm

This is another problem with my generation. Since when is being autistic an insult?
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Yohan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:37 pm

Reading how to carry out a diagnosis of Asperger, I think more or less every man who is interested to move away, who is questioning Western values etc. must be a very sick individual, Aspergers 100+ percent.

'Inability to socialize... to socialize with what? With a feminist land-whale and the only what she has to offer is an unfinished degree about gender study and unpaid student loans or what?

Asperger's special = patient is male and misogynistic orientated, considers himself to be happier abroad...
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:48 pm

Blue Murder wrote:This is another problem with my generation. Since when is being autistic an insult?


It's a pretty awful condition for a lot of people, especially the ones who have not received proper care and attention when they were younger. Nowadays autistic children are helped to learn social skills and be better prepared for life in the big bad outside world from an earlier age. As a result, these children may grow into fully functional members of society. A lot of autistic people, especially among the older generations or those born to more ignorant families, tend to face serious issues in their social, professional and romantic lives.

A lot of people on this site are odd, to say the least. For a lot of them, I feel their lack of dating success may be due to social issues. The more lonely a guy becomes, the more these social issues can grow until they're hard to overcome. It's highly likely a lot of people on this website have a (mild?) form of autism. I know of at least three who have openly said they were diagnosed, or there were at least serious suspicions.

There is the perception that a lot of autistic people are somehow geniuses, and I believe this is false. A small minority will use their unique one-track minds to focus on subject or skill, master it and make good money out of it. The vast majority, sadly, does not obsess over something that is actually practical. Instead of science, their obsession would be a video game, or a television series, or a sexual perversion. And these people, locked away in their rooms as they are, get nowhere in life.

I would not use "autistic" as an insult. If anything, I pity these people a great deal. I think with tough love, a lot of one-on-one attention and a complete change of scenery, a lot of these people could lessen their symptoms enough to still live productive lives. Some of these guys are even good looking, but have shit posture, don't groom themselves, can't dress themselves fashionably and take overall bad care of themselves. Negative self-esteem kicks it, and a vicious circle is born.

I've helped a guy who his mother suggested was autistic. He said he had certain traits. We talked many times, I gave him some advice. Now he's in a committed relationship and a while back, he had a chance to lose his virginity with a foreign girl which he rejected because he loves his girlfriend too much. It's amazing how much someone can do, when you just give him some optimism and tell him the world is not going to shit, he is not worthless and he can actually get things done. Break the spiral of negativity and you'll be amazed by the things these "special people" can do once they properly apply themselves.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Winston » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:34 am

What if only half of the symptoms of Aspergers fit you? Does that mean you have it?

Some of those checklist items look like it could apply to narcissists too, or just self-centered people. So they seem a bit subjective.

BlackKnight, do you have Aspergers? Even if you do, you'd deny it of course. lol

BlackKnight, where is the URL you copied that info from about Aspergers? You should include the URL when you copy and paste info. It's basic net protocol. Don't you know that?

Could it be that some of us here have aspergers from vaccinations? Dr. Andrew Wakefield and others, including RFK Junior, discovered a link between vaccines and autism. But of course, the powers that be attempted to discredit him by fudging and manipulating numbers and inflating numbers to make every connection look coincidental. Typical of them. But no matter how much you fudge numbers though, people still instinctively sense a connection between vaccines and autism, especially parents whose children immediately regressed and suffered brain damage immediately after being vaccinated.

Btw, we already have other threads in this forum about aspergers.

viewtopic.php?t=24682
viewtopic.php?t=19381
viewtopic.php?t=8019
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Ghost » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:12 am

Blue Murder wrote:This is another problem with my generation. Since when is being autistic an insult?


Calling people X when they are not X is an insult, and meant to be so. Insulting someone without cause is fine, but pretending to be a "medical expert" while doing so just shows mental illness. Actually, that would be funny - someone could make a thread about Paggy's mental illness. He ticks off more than a few boxes.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby mattyman » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:33 am

There's almost certainly a large percentage on a site like this, though I don't think all the wierdness is due to asperders. Anyway, now that the thread's up, and being diagnosed with the condition myself, I have a few cents to add;
It's a pretty awful condition for a lot of people, especially the ones who have not received proper care and attention when they were younger

Aspergers can hinder people socially in a number of ways, the most tragic thing about it is that people can end-up with a cumulative message that they are a social failure over a lifetime. Many people with the condition don't have a clue what's hindering them until someone points-out the error of their ways. Fortunately as you say, there are resources that can help people affected identify their social weaknesses. Classic social problems aspergers can cause people are taking jokes too literally, impaired ability to make 'small talk'; that is relate to topics people might bring up and lack of empathy and ability to relate to other's feelings. What comes to most foks naturally is akin to learning a foreign language or a musical instrument (harder ones that is, like the cello).

When you add on top a history of real and perceived failures socially, some might have the idea that others are out to get them, are trying to asses their social performance, or assume that any slightest joke is aimed at them personally; classic low-self-esteem problems. This can cause people to react in a way that's can hinder them, and thus in a way confirm their initial ideas about being unlikable Hope this makes sense loud and clear. Note; that this negative social history and perceived sense of being inadequate doesn't just affected those diagnosed with aspergers.

A lot of people on this site are odd, to say the least

Totally agree, and even more odd since I last checked-in. with all this flat earth nonsense and related conspiracy crap.
For a lot of them, I feel their lack of dating success may be due to social issues

Couldn't agree more. All this nonsense people bring-up for not doing well dating-wise blaming not having the right height, the right car etc. is just silly. In reality, social problems hinder people much more than this. Often times, people are very unwilling to take a look at themselves (which surprisingly, can be comforting and liberating; in the sense that it's not you that's the problem but some of the patterns of behaviour). Most likely a PROJECTION of a sense of failure put onto something that they see is responsible. Very common thinking pattern, aspie or non-aspie. In reality, there are much more important social deficits that can be of hindrance dating-wise. Please do not overlook things that might really be holding you back.

I know of at least three who have openly said they were diagnosed, or there were at least serious suspicions

That's a great thing though. If people are comfortable to bring-up the fact openly in a public forum, that at least indicates that these individuals don't feel judged by doing so. On the note of what this forum is about, one has to be mindful about how 'nerdist' America must be as well as creeds that strongly admire the American high-school social dynamic are pretty hostile to typical aspie personality traits.

There is the perception that a lot of autistic people are somehow geniuses, and I believe this is false. A small minority will use their unique one-track minds to focus on subject or skill, master it and make good money out of it. The vast majority, sadly, does not obsess over something that is actually practical. Instead of science, their obsession would be a video game, or a television series, or a sexual perversion. And these people, locked away in their rooms as they are, get nowhere in life.

There's two very valid points here. Yes; autistic and aspie people do tend to be exceptionally intelligent in certain areas, especially sciences, mathematics, debating, logic and others (if not lacking socially), which can be a great asset career-wise. Point two, regarding obsessions with vidiogames, television, porn etc. what you're refering to is an unfortunate symptom of loneliness of which social deficits can all too often lead to. This is not limited to the aspies, but for anyone in foul social circumstances that uses unhelpful coping strategies.

It's very true that loneliness can be a vicious cycle, if not multiple vicious cycles. The first part of course, is identifying what's holding you back. Quite often, putting the blame on others can be a defence mechanism; please for the love of god bear that in my. This is not to say that the west is great, the American high-school mentaliy is right and you're wrong for not fitting-in, and you'll do shit everywhere if you do fit into that bubble. Of course there's an element of finding the right creed and social environment for you regardless who you are.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby Cornfed » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:00 am

Aren't Aspergers/ADHD just terms for men and boys capable of human thought who would have been called "visionaries" 100 years ago or "gifted" 50 years ago when the elites still needed them, but are diagnosed and drugged into normalcy now that the elites want to exterminate intelligent life?
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby gnosis » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:57 am

Asperger's is no longer even recognized as a valid diagnosis by psychologists and psychiatrists. It was formally eliminated as a diagnostic category about two years ago.

In any case, psychiatry's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) is notorious for its poor reliability and validity.

Guys, BlackKnight is an obvious troll. We need to stop responding to his posts. Winston! Why haven't you banned this clown yet?
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:21 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:
Blue Murder wrote:This is another problem with my generation. Since when is being autistic an insult?


It's a pretty awful condition for a lot of people, especially the ones who have not received proper care and attention when they were younger. Nowadays autistic children are helped to learn social skills and be better prepared for life in the big bad outside world from an earlier age. As a result, these children may grow into fully functional members of society. A lot of autistic people, especially among the older generations or those born to more ignorant families, tend to face serious issues in their social, professional and romantic lives.

A lot of people on this site are odd, to say the least. For a lot of them, I feel their lack of dating success may be due to social issues. The more lonely a guy becomes, the more these social issues can grow until they're hard to overcome. It's highly likely a lot of people on this website have a (mild?) form of autism. I know of at least three who have openly said they were diagnosed, or there were at least serious suspicions.

There is the perception that a lot of autistic people are somehow geniuses, and I believe this is false. A small minority will use their unique one-track minds to focus on subject or skill, master it and make good money out of it. The vast majority, sadly, does not obsess over something that is actually practical. Instead of science, their obsession would be a video game, or a television series, or a sexual perversion. And these people, locked away in their rooms as they are, get nowhere in life.

I would not use "autistic" as an insult. If anything, I pity these people a great deal. I think with tough love, a lot of one-on-one attention and a complete change of scenery, a lot of these people could lessen their symptoms enough to still live productive lives. Some of these guys are even good looking, but have shit posture, don't groom themselves, can't dress themselves fashionably and take overall bad care of themselves. Negative self-esteem kicks it, and a vicious circle is born.

I've helped a guy who his mother suggested was autistic. He said he had certain traits. We talked many times, I gave him some advice. Now he's in a committed relationship and a while back, he had a chance to lose his virginity with a foreign girl which he rejected because he loves his girlfriend too much. It's amazing how much someone can do, when you just give him some optimism and tell him the world is not going to shit, he is not worthless and he can actually get things done. Break the spiral of negativity and you'll be amazed by the things these "special people" can do once they properly apply themselves.


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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:37 pm

Winston wrote:What if only half of the symptoms of Aspergers fit you? Does that mean you have it?

Some of those checklist items look like it could apply to narcissists too, or just self-centered people. So they seem a bit subjective.

BlackKnight, do you have Aspergers? Even if you do, you'd deny it of course. lol

BlackKnight, where is the URL you copied that info from about Aspergers? You should include the URL when you copy and paste info. It's basic net protocol. Don't you know that?

Could it be that some of us here have aspergers from vaccinations? Dr. Andrew Wakefield and others, including RFK Junior, discovered a link between vaccines and autism. But of course, the powers that be attempted to discredit him by fudging and manipulating numbers and inflating numbers to make every connection look coincidental. Typical of them. But no matter how much you fudge numbers though, people still instinctively sense a connection between vaccines and autism, especially parents whose children immediately regressed and suffered brain damage immediately after being vaccinated.

Btw, we already have other threads in this forum about aspergers.

viewtopic.php?t=24682
viewtopic.php?t=19381
viewtopic.php?t=8019


What if only half of the symptoms of Aspergers fit you? Does that mean you have it?


That's what spectrum means :lol:

You can get autism from a number of things including a vaccination since it's messing your immune system.
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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:38 pm

mattyman wrote:There's almost certainly a large percentage on a site like this, though I don't think all the wierdness is due to asperders. Anyway, now that the thread's up, and being diagnosed with the condition myself, I have a few cents to add;
It's a pretty awful condition for a lot of people, especially the ones who have not received proper care and attention when they were younger

Aspergers can hinder people socially in a number of ways, the most tragic thing about it is that people can end-up with a cumulative message that they are a social failure over a lifetime. Many people with the condition don't have a clue what's hindering them until someone points-out the error of their ways. Fortunately as you say, there are resources that can help people affected identify their social weaknesses. Classic social problems aspergers can cause people are taking jokes too literally, impaired ability to make 'small talk'; that is relate to topics people might bring up and lack of empathy and ability to relate to other's feelings. What comes to most foks naturally is akin to learning a foreign language or a musical instrument (harder ones that is, like the cello).

When you add on top a history of real and perceived failures socially, some might have the idea that others are out to get them, are trying to asses their social performance, or assume that any slightest joke is aimed at them personally; classic low-self-esteem problems. This can cause people to react in a way that's can hinder them, and thus in a way confirm their initial ideas about being unlikable Hope this makes sense loud and clear. Note; that this negative social history and perceived sense of being inadequate doesn't just affected those diagnosed with aspergers.

A lot of people on this site are odd, to say the least

Totally agree, and even more odd since I last checked-in. with all this flat earth nonsense and related conspiracy crap.
For a lot of them, I feel their lack of dating success may be due to social issues

Couldn't agree more. All this nonsense people bring-up for not doing well dating-wise blaming not having the right height, the right car etc. is just silly. In reality, social problems hinder people much more than this. Often times, people are very unwilling to take a look at themselves (which surprisingly, can be comforting and liberating; in the sense that it's not you that's the problem but some of the patterns of behaviour). Most likely a PROJECTION of a sense of failure put onto something that they see is responsible. Very common thinking pattern, aspie or non-aspie. In reality, there are much more important social deficits that can be of hindrance dating-wise. Please do not overlook things that might really be holding you back.

I know of at least three who have openly said they were diagnosed, or there were at least serious suspicions

That's a great thing though. If people are comfortable to bring-up the fact openly in a public forum, that at least indicates that these individuals don't feel judged by doing so. On the note of what this forum is about, one has to be mindful about how 'nerdist' America must be as well as creeds that strongly admire the American high-school social dynamic are pretty hostile to typical aspie personality traits.

There is the perception that a lot of autistic people are somehow geniuses, and I believe this is false. A small minority will use their unique one-track minds to focus on subject or skill, master it and make good money out of it. The vast majority, sadly, does not obsess over something that is actually practical. Instead of science, their obsession would be a video game, or a television series, or a sexual perversion. And these people, locked away in their rooms as they are, get nowhere in life.

There's two very valid points here. Yes; autistic and aspie people do tend to be exceptionally intelligent in certain areas, especially sciences, mathematics, debating, logic and others (if not lacking socially), which can be a great asset career-wise. Point two, regarding obsessions with vidiogames, television, p**n etc. what you're refering to is an unfortunate symptom of loneliness of which social deficits can all too often lead to. This is not limited to the aspies, but for anyone in foul social circumstances that uses unhelpful coping strategies.

It's very true that loneliness can be a vicious cycle, if not multiple vicious cycles. The first part of course, is identifying what's holding you back. Quite often, putting the blame on others can be a defence mechanism; please for the love of god bear that in my. This is not to say that the west is great, the American high-school mentaliy is right and you're wrong for not fitting-in, and you'll do shit everywhere if you do fit into that bubble. Of course there's an element of finding the right creed and social environment for you regardless who you are.


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Re: I would say most people here fall on the Asperger's Spec

Postby BlackKnight » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:49 pm

Cornfed wrote:Aren't Aspergers/ADHD just terms for men and boys capable of human thought who would have been called "visionaries" 100 years ago or "gifted" 50 years ago when the elites still needed them, but are diagnosed and drugged into normalcy now that the elites want to exterminate intelligent life?


If normalcy is human empathy and social skills I don't see a problem with that.
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