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'BIG LOVE' IN REAL LIFE -- Best Country for Open Polygamy?

Postby Jester » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:57 am

Ok, I've been on this site for hours, fascinated. My first night. Now I'm going to ask the question that's really on my mind.

Here's the problem: I've had multiple simultaneous girlfriends, but their friends screw it up. Two girls might sleep with you (on different nights), but they don't take the relationship seriously. And even if they are both serious, then if they have mutual acquaintances, the acquaintances start gossiping until they provoke a girlfight or a breakup. Because women are so thin-skinned, they need to be accepted socially, and the gossip really gets to them.

So the question is, when I relocate, where can I most easily maintain multiple wives (calling them girlfriends, fiancees, novias, wives, casa chicas, minor wives, whatever) where I am NOT obligated, socially speaking, to hide their existence from each other? And where I can have children with each of them? I'm not looking for one primary relationship with a little dabbling on the side. I want quality relationships that last. I don't need to flaunt it, but I don't want to have to hide it either.

For the sake of this discussion, let's rule out the Moslem countries and Africa. Those areas would be a separate discussion sometime.

Obviously it would be easier if it was a culture where female bisexuality was not totally taboo, since the girls might make friends. (Thailand?)

Or where non-Moslem polygamy is legal . (Myanmar?)

Or where the Cardinal has joked publicly about polygamy versus "monotony" (Philippines).

On one hand, as a tall, American-born, Southern-raised totally-white-looking, half-Armenian Catholic with old-fashioned values, I might fit into Latin American culture more easily than Asian culture.

But on the other hand, I'm wondering if what I want to do might be more accepted in Southeast Asia than in Latin America.
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Postby E_Irizarry » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:12 pm

I think that this is an honest, open question that you put out here.

Although I have been to Thailand and the Philippines, I don't feel that I'm the top-notched expert.

My experiences may differ from yours.

Well, for one thing, I'm well-aware that in Saudi Arabia encourages polygamy.
However, in order to engage in marriage with them, one would have to provide
documentation as well as actually have the income that can sufficiently take care of
one's wives in Saudi Arabia.
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Reply to Eiry

Postby Jester » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:29 pm

Thanks for checking in, Eiry.

For this discussion I want to exclude the Moslem nations, since I would have to change religions in order tolive there and practice polygamy there (generally), and that's not what I'm about.

I'm actually for a place to practice my beliefs, not to get away from them. The Buddhist and Confucianist countries might work, as well as the Catholic ones.

That's the guidance I'm looking for.

Funny thing, even though I am a believing Christian, and my beliefs are based on the Bible, the only people I can talk to about these things are those who don't worry about the Bible - like the good men on this website!

Ironic, isn't it?

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Postby Shokkers » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:54 pm

Heh. You're not the only Christian who thinks like this.
In fact, if anyone gives you any grief about your lifestyle being 'anti-Christian', refer them to 2nd Samuel, 5:13.

It is said that FRANCE is slightly more tolerant of multiple relationships. It's not that it's madly enouraged, but the French think that what happens in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom. That's why you don't see French politicians crucified in the media over 'affairs' and such...they might get crucified for poor job performance, but if they have an affair, it's like "so what?"

In the US, you might try the San Fernando Valley in California. Virtually everyone there is in porn, so there shouldn't be a huge problem with multiple relationships.
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"Out of the BOx" thinking from Shokkers

Postby Jester » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:18 pm

Thanks, Shokkers.

You're right about France. I've thought about it. I'm sure it would be pleasant and civilized, as well as open-minded.

But I should have mentioned that the main reason I'm getting out of the U.S. is political. Want to get my bloodline out of the new World Order's "ground zero" while I can. So I'm avoiding English-speaking and European Union countries. Too much totalitarian control.

I live in Glendale now, at the edge of L.A.s San Fernando Valley. So I'm well aware that I can get away with multiples here, with some difficulty. If I was open to staying in the States, I would be bringing in foreign brides, probably under a different type of visa.

But I really want to get out ASAP.

Leaving out English-speaking soon-to-be Rockefeller-and-MI5 slave states, and more-pleasant-but-also-unfree Rothschild-run European slave states, and ruling out Moslem states and AFrica (a last resort), that leaves Latin America and Asia I guess.

Another thing I'm looking for is a culture of life. A country where people are forming familes, where children are valued, and the local, native population is growing. Countries like Ukraine, Russia, the English-speaking countries, and Western Europe are all shrinking, I believe.

I want more children, and a lot of grandchildren.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and for stimulating my own. Please don't hesitate to share any under ideas you have. Both of those were good ones - out-of-the-box.

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Postby E_Irizarry » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:39 am

Shokkers wrote:It is said that FRANCE is slightly more tolerant of multiple relationships. It's not that it's madly enouraged, but the French think that what happens in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom. That's why you don't see French politicians crucified in the media over 'affairs' and such...they might get crucified for poor job performance, but if they have an affair, it's like "so what?"


Oh that sh*t is so true. :P :P
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Vive La France

Postby Jester » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:45 am

I wonder how many good people are persuaded not to run for office because of the scrutiny here? I'm certainly one. I don't want the restraints on living my personal life the way I want to.
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Postby E_Irizarry » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:05 pm

Jester, I also feel that if I were to run for office, that I'd be blatantly ignored or assasinated.

In a lot of ways, I have a Ron Paul-state-of-mind.
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Conform or Else

Postby Jester » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:07 pm

Usually they just ignore you. Like refusing to mention Ron Paul in the polls, shutting Ralph Nader out of debates, etc.

People are hypnotized here -- doped by the media and the education system. If you voice a controversial opinion to someone, even if they secretly agree with you, they are still often afraid of agreeing with you publicly. Fear of ostracism - of being seen as "different."
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Hey Winston

Postby Jester » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:15 pm

The question of Southeast Asia versus Latin America for relocation and a pro-male environment seems to me to be one that would be important to many here. Could this thread be made a tad more visible?

Maybe the question shouldn't be so narrowly focused on what countries or regions are best for a family-oriented polygamist like myself.

I guess what I'm really looking for is, overall, what would be plus's or minuses in favor of the Philippines versus Latin America? (From the point of view of anyone here - players, guys looking for brides, relocation, whatever.)

Thoughts, Gentlemen?

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Postby ladislav » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:16 pm

You can do it, it's just that it's gonna cost you. Not my advice, I mean, but the lifestyle. I hope you can afford it. How much cash are you willing/able to spend, say, monthly? I do not mean on hookers. I mean on gf's.

PM me and let's talk. This is very risque even for here.
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Postby gmm567 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:24 pm

you might try utah. Polygamy is somewhat accepted in the small mormon towns
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Getting Out of the U.S. - Time To Say Goodbye

Postby Jester » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:25 pm

That's a very good suggestion. I like the people and the terrain, and hell, it's America.

I would love being around good old Americans who practice what I consider to be normal man/woman relationships without artificial, culturally manufactured jealousy.

However I am committed to leaving the U.S. for political reasons.

The laws against men, including child support slavery, are just one example of the reason.

Plus lots of stuff is going on that looks pretty ominous. Congressmen were threatened with martial law if they failed to approve the TARP handout to Wall Streeters. 20,000 Army troops redeployed from Iraq redeployed to lower 48 to suppress domestic disorders, Marines secretly deployed from Iraq to D.C. for the same purpose (that last bit of info is from a private source, other items are public knowledge). Now, Obama in his inaugural warning that things would get worse and we should all be prepared to sacrifice. Are you kidding?

My grandfather fought off the Turks during the Armenian Genocide, and I have no plans to subject my family to anything similar. I want out, for me and mine, now.

The truth is, folks, that massacres of Armenians bagan a full 20 years before the big, universal one. A few Armenians got out while they could; most waited in place, and hoped fervently. They were killed.

I believe that there is usually a way to survive if you heed the warning signs. Here in America, Ruby Ridge and Waco were warning signs. Sure, I put those things out of my mind. But occupation troops moving into the U.S. reminds me. And it's been how long since Waco? Not 20 years - yet.

But to be truthful, the last straw is not the big stuff I've just described. The last straw is the petty stuff. A lot of it is kind of a predatory street-tax, where police lie in wait like hungry crocodiles till they find a victim. California authorities are ticketing people on trumped up offenses to raise revenue, and I am fed up with it. Robot red-light cameras, prohibition on cellphone use while driving, a passenger not wearing seatbelt, merely driving through a crosswalk with a pedestrian still in it on the other side of the street, jaywalking, riding in the back of a pickup truck, etc. People caught DUI, who were driving well and doing nothing wrong, on a first offense lose drivers licenses plus pay $10,000 or so in fines and fees, plus have a criminal record.

This petty chiseling by the government costs money and time, and/or just makes doing business here too burdensome. It isn't major tyranny, but it adds salt to the wound. The bastards are stealing no longer billions, but now trillions of dollars, but that's not enough - they want fines here and fees there.

In Mexico or Armenia, officials have their hand out, but you don't have to go through a huge bureaucratic process in order to pay hte bribe. You pay the bribe to AVOID paperwork.

And the real kicker is that here, the police are so damned self-rightous about something like Felony Cellphone Use. They posture, they lecture, they scowl, they pretend it's a real crime. At least when I'm being robbed, I shouldn't have to pretend that I really did something wrong. Well, I'm not going to pretend. I'm not playing along anymore.

It's like the Jim Carrie movie, The Truman Show. Everybody acts like this is a legitimate government trying to protect us. But the truth is, it's all bullshit.

OK, I'm sorry to have gotten off-topic here, but anyway as you can see I'm not leaving because I'm a polygamist. I can practice polygamy here, sure with some difficulty. And at least the first young hottie would be easy to import with te lure of a green card. No, I'm not leaving in order to practice polygamy. One of my sons is a definiote monogamist-type, and he thinks the same way I do.

Sorry to go off, I just guess I needed to let go some steam.

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Re: Hey Winston

Postby Winston » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:08 am

Jester wrote:The question of Southeast Asia versus Latin America for relocation and a pro-male environment seems to me to be one that would be important to many here. Could this thread be made a tad more visible?

Maybe the question shouldn't be so narrowly focused on what countries or regions are best for a family-oriented polygamist like myself.

I guess what I'm really looking for is, overall, what would be plus's or minuses in favor of the Philippines versus Latin America? (From the point of view of anyone here - players, guys looking for brides, relocation, whatever.)

Thoughts, Gentlemen?

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W: My advisor Ladislav could address that, since he's been to both. I'll ask him to comment on it. I think he already has in the past though, but I don't remember the thread. I think he said they were both great, but that Latin women were more patriotic and less willing to relocate or something.

Have you considered being Mormon in Utah? Do they still allow polygamy there?
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Re: Getting Out of the U.S. - Time To Say Goodbye

Postby Winston » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:29 am

Jester wrote:Robot red-light cameras, prohibition on cellphone use while driving, a passenger not wearing seatbelt, merely driving through a crosswalk with a pedestrian still in it on the other side of the street, jaywalking, riding in the back of a pickup truck, etc.


W: I remember back in the 80's that one could ride in the back of a pickup truck, even with a dog, with no problem. It was part of the culture in rural areas in fact. And hayrides were fun and common. My church group took me on one too. My parents went on a hayride back in the 70's during our trip across America, I still remember it vaguely.
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