Tradcons should all convert to islam

[88jose88]

Christianity does not offer the tradcon lifestyle in it's highest peak.

Most men want white women that look hot.most men want women that will not reject them if you say she must be obediant,before the marriage.

Most men want virgins.

Most men don't want to go to the phillipines or indonesia for a woman that isn't white and isn't all that in terms of looks.

most men want the ease of arranged marriages over 'courtship'.

Most men want white children if they're white.

Most men want to break in a woman's hymen.

most men want a girl that is highly educated but not feminist with high standards.

Joining a turkish sufi tariqah is the only thing that can offer all of this in today's age.It doesn't matter if you're convinced of islam or not,it's the best practical option.

it BEATS HAPPIERABROAD which is subpar compared to just becoming muslim.

[vlkmo]

This is a tempting thing to say, but most tradcons would want to remain Christian or atheist/agnostic.

What's the point of them converting anyway?

[fschmidt]

This is a tempting thing to say, but most tradcons would want to remain Christian or atheist/agnostic.

What's the point of them converting anyway?

That's because most tradcons are retarded. Modern Christianity and atheism are not traditional or conservative. I agree with the original post, Islam is the best traditional conservative option for most people.

[MrMan]

It's not worth going to Hell. Even Islam teaches that Muslims go to Hell.

Surah Maryam (19:71):
“It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to hell.”

Christianity does not offer the tradcon lifestyle in it's highest peak.

A lot of Christians tend to be traditional and conservative since those descriptions align with some aspects of the Christian world view. But Christianity is not about being 'tradcon.' That's not the highest goal-- the be the most tradcon.

Most men want white women that look hot.most men want women that will not reject them if you say she must be obediant,before the marriage.

Say it before marriage or require obedience before marriage? The latter doesn't make much sense in most cultures. In a traditional culture, the woman may be under her father's protection and leadership before marriage.

I know it's tough and slim pickings, but there are conservative women who accept the idea of a woman submitting to her husband. I remember there was a show about Amish teens that went to the UK. One girl was Amish ethnically, but her parents had started going to an Evangelical church made up of Amish. She was talking to this aristocratic girl in the UK about how wives were supposed to submit to their husbands, and the girl said she liked that idea and bought into it. Such girls exist. And of course the man maintaining a relationship in which it happens and holding her two it when the need arises for the sake of the relationship, family, good sense, etc. are two different things.

Most men want virgins.

Maybe in the world, but I think a lot of western men lack the good sense or good moral sense to value this.

Most men don't want to go to the phillipines or indonesia for a woman that isn't white and isn't all that in terms of looks.

These countries have some women who are as good-looking as good-looking white women, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

most men want the ease of arranged marriages over 'courtship'.

Most men want white children if they're white.

Most men are not white Anglo Saxons. About out of every five men alive on earth in China or India. Throw in Bangladesh, all of Africa, etc. Do 'most' men want white kids?

Most men want to break in a woman's hymen.

Having one virgin was good for me. I don't sit around thinking about how I want to break a hymen. I don't know if 'most men' do before marriage, probably, but probably most western men don't have the good sense to want to.

most men want a girl that is highly educated but not feminist with high standards.

Some level of education is desirable. But is a bachelors or masters required to be a good wife? Non-feminist? Probably world-wide most men living would want that if you explained what feminists are like then asked the question.

Joining a turkish sufi tariqah is the only thing that can offer all of this in today's age.It doesn't matter if you're convinced of islam or not,it's the best practical option.

You should probably explain what that is if you are trying to sell people on the idea of joining some mystical Islamic group. But... no thank you.

[88jose88]

@MrMan,I have never seen a indonesian woman as goodlooking as a 7 white woman even.You must not be exposed to turkish women and white women in general,or they're just ugly where you're from.

also,in terms of distribution,the average turkish woman is attractive while most indonesian women look like maids. @MarcosZeitola would agree with me that asian women in general unless chinese or japanese,or korean simpely do not look good on average,they're ugly and look like maids,and the goodlooking ones are not even special in the west.

also just give up modern amenities and join the amish to get a virgin white woman bro!lmao most amish women look like shit btw,even sandman did a video on it.

[MrMan]

@MrMan,I have never seen a indonesian woman as goodlooking as a 7 white woman even.You must not be exposed to turkish women and white women in general,or they're just ugly where you're from.

It depends on your personal tastes.

This was an actress that was popular when I lived in Indonesia around the turn of the century-- the left is her when she was young.
https://asset-2.tstatic.net/batam/foto/ ... -botak.jpg

Another one:
https://pretty-girls.net/wp-content/upl ... xandra.jpg

My wife actually knew this singer when she was young. I'd say she's a bit cute, but she's been popular there for a long time.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

Here's one:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/indonesia ... 271680730/

also,in terms of distribution,the average turkish woman is attractive while most indonesian women look like maids. @MarcosZeitola would agree with me that asian women in general unless chinese or japanese,or korean simpely do not look good on average,they're ugly and look like maids,and the goodlooking ones are not even special in the west.

I haven't been to turkey, but I understand they have a range of looks ranging from central Asian looking to European looking. The sultan used to take white slave concubines. The boys killed each other. Maybe they let the girls live.

[88jose88]

@MrMan,I have never seen a indonesian woman as goodlooking as a 7 white woman even.You must not be exposed to turkish women and white women in general,or they're just ugly where you're from.

It depends on your personal tastes.

This was an actress that was popular when I lived in Indonesia around the turn of the century-- the left is her when she was young.
https://asset-2.tstatic.net/batam/foto/ ... -botak.jpg

Another one:
https://pretty-girls.net/wp-content/upl ... xandra.jpg

My wife actually knew this singer when she was young. I'd say she's a bit cute, but she's been popular there for a long time.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

Here's one:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/indonesia ... 271680730/

also,in terms of distribution,the average turkish woman is attractive while most indonesian women look like maids. @MarcosZeitola would agree with me that asian women in general unless chinese or japanese,or korean simpely do not look good on average,they're ugly and look like maids,and the goodlooking ones are not even special in the west.

I haven't been to turkey, but I understand they have a range of looks ranging from central Asian looking to European looking. The sultan used to take white slave concubines. The boys killed each other. Maybe they let the girls live.

only the first is goodlooking,and she's a high tier becky if I"m being generous.

[MrMan]

@MrMan,I have never seen a indonesian woman as goodlooking as a 7 white woman even.You must not be exposed to turkish women and white women in general,or they're just ugly where you're from.

It depends on your personal tastes.

This was an actress that was popular when I lived in Indonesia around the turn of the century-- the left is her when she was young.
https://asset-2.tstatic.net/batam/foto/ ... -botak.jpg

Another one:
https://pretty-girls.net/wp-content/upl ... xandra.jpg

My wife actually knew this singer when she was young. I'd say she's a bit cute, but she's been popular there for a long time.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=htt ... AdAAAAABAE

Here's one:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/indonesia ... 271680730/

also,in terms of distribution,the average turkish woman is attractive while most indonesian women look like maids. @MarcosZeitola would agree with me that asian women in general unless chinese or japanese,or korean simpely do not look good on average,they're ugly and look like maids,and the goodlooking ones are not even special in the west.

I haven't been to turkey, but I understand they have a range of looks ranging from central Asian looking to European looking. The sultan used to take white slave concubines. The boys killed each other. Maybe they let the girls live.

only the first is goodlooking,and she's a high tier becky if I"m being generous.

I don't know what a 'high tier becky' is after looking it up. Becky's were supposed to look like porn stars, and that doesn't help me much, but I'd assume that is reasonably pretty with a fit body. But I digress. The fuzzy picture didn't do a young version of that actress justice, but if I look her up I see modern middle aged looking pictures, and I don't know the names of the pretty actresses to look up.

I saw that actress looking at me in the mall once, looking up from level 2. Someone at work I told about it said her husband was white and maybe she wondered if I was him.

Like I said before, I found Indonesia to have a lower percentage of women whose looks were 8+ to draw my interest. I'd only be interested, really, in an 8+ for me for looks back when I was looking. Maybe if there were a 7.5 who had something special about her or something, like a great singer or a super appealing personality could have done it.

My wife is pretty. Once we were walking down the stairs behind a TV star. I didn't know who she was. My wife said that is so-and-so, she's an 'artis.' I told her she was prettier than that woman, because she was. There are some pretty actresses, but a lot of their actresses are 7's I think.

But personal tastes differ and you probably just don't like a girl who has a bit of a Malay look.

But of course looks are not the most important thing. Beauty is fleeting, and charm is deceptive, but a woman who fears the LORD, who can find?

I think you are missing part of the equation, willing to follow a religion you don't believe in to get a pretty kind-of-white girl. The thing you are missing is the sovereignty of God. I was really wanting a wife, looking for one. I didn't find one until I really prayed intensely for a season about it, and then some specific prayers were answered in finding my wife.

If you are looking for a virgin who is going to like you and want to spend her life with you, whose also pretty who has whatever 1 out of thousands characteristics you may be looking for, you may needs some help. God knows where all the needles in all the haystacks are. Serving God is more important than getting your romantic and sexual desires taken care of.

[88jose88]

mrman,why do you assume we believe in your 'god'?Your god is nonsense to alot of more informed people.the bible is chock full of errors and contradictions,and the changing God or gods of christianity don't make logical sense like the sufi and neoplatonic conception of God.

[88jose88]

MrMan,you're sounding stupid to me as usual.the bible is full of errors,the bible says sacrifice is not even needed to be forgiven.

paul contradicted isa(a.s)on justification.modern christianity is chock full of cognitive dissonance,and cafeteria readings of the bible.there is no coherent framework of following verses because the bible contradicts itself.that's why you have sdo many sects.

You're too stupid to follow logic over a book so you wouldn't even begin to use your mind and see how the concept of God makes zero sense unless it's the neoplatonic one.We've had these discussions before.all you say is trust the God of the bible full of errors,and don't trust reason.at the face of it,that sounds like cult brainwashing.only someone trying to get you into a cult wants you to believe something without critical thought and using the gift of reason.

and then you act like we believe in it,and try to shame us for not following the God of the Torah,when you've offered zero proof he exists except I had a dream or this guy saw this,or that guy had this experience.

I follow reason to the best of my ability.the bible makes zero sense and the God of the bible concept is illogical.you never adress this.

Stop asking people to believe in a cult.

[88jose88]

Mahayana buddhists rightfully criticize the typical God concept in their works,butthey cannot touch the neoplatonic concept.Sufism is neoplatonic.