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Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their agenda?

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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Wolfeye » August 8th, 2017, 12:04 am

Adama: The thing you said about freedom to do evil isn't totally true- you're not always free to do good. I think there IS a serious urge to fuck-up & be an instigator & then to cite "personal freedom" as a tactic to block prevention or revenge, but there isn't ONLY that urge among people. Being "free" doesn't always mean "from guilt or social disapproval," but can also mean "from interference or retaliation"- at the very least.

In America, for instance, you have A LOT of freedom on paper- but not necessarily in practice. If someone tries to transgress your freedom, you're generally not functionally free to counteract THAT (which is weird, considering that that transgression should definitely be considered something not endorsed by law enforcement, at the very least). This is especially true when dealing with government personnel & really anyone that's thought of as an unofficial superior (medical personnel vs patients, teachers vs parents when it comes to how children are raised, military people vs EVERYONE ELSE, etc...).

That's part of why I don't have a categorical issue with divorce or abortion- it's entirely possible to be in an abusive marriage or get raped & it's counteractions of these attacks are not generally supported on a functional level. Doesn't mean the situation is always right, in my opinion- I just have a somewhat open ear for the story.
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Adama » August 8th, 2017, 1:32 am

If someone is suppressing your natural rights, that's tyranny. I am not talking about women who want to enslave themselves to employers. That's what they want everyone to believe things were all about. It was about much more than that: it was about freeing up women to act like prostitutes without taking money. That's what birth control, abortion, child custody and child support are all for. So women can live in fornication and adultery all of their lives, without anything bad happening to them as a result.

In other words, they simply wanted to remove the consequences for evil so that it can flourish.
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » August 29th, 2017, 12:09 am

this just in...

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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » August 29th, 2017, 2:02 am

Sports are also dominated by freemasonry. A good example of this is the recent Mayweather vs. McGregor fight. Freemasonry ensures you get a shot at the title even if your not a boxer like McGregor. Both fighters walked away with the money...

Mayweather vs McGregor: Masterly Floyd Mayweather gives bold Conor McGregor a boxing schooling
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby gsjackson » August 29th, 2017, 2:42 am

Taco, I was told that the vast majority of Mormon men are Masons. Is that true?
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » August 29th, 2017, 3:50 am

gsjackson wrote:Taco, I was told that the vast majority of Mormon men are Masons. Is that true?


Most Mormon men are not masons. There's a few that are.

My understanding is the Prophet of the Mormon church is a mason for the simple reason most countries won't let Mormon missionaries in to do missionary work unless they have a masonic connection. Mormons are not part of the New World Order as some have claimed. It was legal to kill Mormons in the state of Missouri until 1978 when the law was changed.

If your rich and famous and you've been on TV, your probably a mason...

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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Winston » August 30th, 2017, 1:57 am

But i heard that the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, was a freemason. And that he got a lot of the symbols and rituals of mormonism from freemasonry. A lot of conspiracy authors and videos say this. Is it a documented fact?

If so then why didnt the masons in america protect joseph smith and his group from persecution in the 1840s? And why didnt they protect joseph smith from being assassinated by a mob?

Maybe the masons werent that powerful yet at the time? Or perhaps they could not control public opinion yet.

Especially since masonry took a big hit when captain william morgan was executed by the masons in 1826 for divulging their secrets in a book he wrote and violating his oath to secrecy. When that got out in the media, the american public became very anti-mason. And membership in freemasonry dropped off. In fact a whole new political party was created at the time called the anti-mason party. Lol. No kidding. Man america must have been a much wilder place back then.

Nowadays if the masons execute someone, even one of their own, the US media will never cover it. And theres no way an anti-masonic party could ever be created in modern America. Lol. People were definitely freer in many ways in the 19th century, and the media was freer and less controlled back then too.

Btw have any of you seen newspapers and flyers from the 1800s? They are funny. Full of exclamation marks and hot words as though they were shouting and overly excited. Lol. Nothing like the tame writing of newspapers today. The grammar and style back then was also very loose and informal. Check out the newspapers of the 19th century and you'll see what i mean. Its hilarious. Lol

Also authors and books back then used a lot of vocabulary words that arent used today yet still exist in the oxford dictionary. The vocabulary range must have been far greater back then too. I guess if you dont have a TV set, you can spend more time learning new words? Lol
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » August 30th, 2017, 12:52 pm

Winston wrote:But i heard that the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, was a freemason. And that he got a lot of the symbols and rituals of mormonism from freemasonry. A lot of conspiracy authors and videos say this. Is it a documented fact?

If so then why didnt the masons in america protect joseph smith and his group from persecution in the 1840s? And why didnt they protect joseph smith from being assassinated by a mob?


I should point out that not all masons are part of the "cabal". Masonry is an organization within an organization. At the lower levels masonry is basically a social club and to be honest most of the members don't really know what they signed up for. The purpose of masonry is kept hidden from most of its low level members and it never appears to be threatening which makes it the ideal method for undermining society. At the higher levels its something completely different. Extreme corruption, Ritualistic human sacrifice, sodomy rituals etc...

The first four prophets of the Mormon church were masons. The fact that Mormon leader Joseph Smith was murdered and the thousands of other Mormons that were with him were running for their lives when they were force out of Missouri by armed mobs would indicate he was a lower level mason. In addition, it was legal to kill Mormons in the state of Missouri until 1978 when the law was finally changed. If this happened to any other religious group their would be public outrage but the media is eerily silent about this historical fact. This is just more evidence that Mormons are just low level masons at best and don't have a lot of political influence.

Everyone knew Mormon, Mitt Romney was going to lose the election against Obama it was planned that way from the beginning.
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Winston » August 30th, 2017, 1:35 pm

Taco,
But why would lower level masons join the fraternity? What do they get out of it? They must be getting some benefit.

Especially since once you join such a thing you lose your freedom right? Because you must take orders from the lodge right?

Dont the lower level masons find it odd that they need to join a secret society and swear oaths just to do philanthropy and charity work? Lol. Ive seen them serving coffee and pastries at highway rest stops before in Washington state. Lol. Why would they do that for? Lol.
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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » August 31st, 2017, 2:02 am

Winston wrote:Taco,
But why would lower level masons join the fraternity? What do they get out of it? They must be getting some benefit.

Especially since once you join such a thing you lose your freedom right? Because you must take orders from the lodge right?

Dont the lower level masons find it odd that they need to join a secret society and swear oaths just to do philanthropy and charity work? Lol. Ive seen them serving coffee and pastries at highway rest stops before in Washington state. Lol. Why would they do that for? Lol.


I think most people join masonry for economic reasons. You'll have a greater chance of succeeding in business because masons have their own network of bankers, lawyers, judges and business contacts. Masons will get your business loan approved, get you accepted to medical school. If your on trial for a crime they can get you off with a light sentence etc... or so they told.

Rotary Club is a masonic organization and they do volunteer work around the world and help finance elementary schools here in the Philippines. I don't know what their motivation behind it is other than trying to gain acceptance in the community and infiltrate every interest group they can.

Henry Makow is one leading experts on masonry and warns about it all the time.

"Freemasonry is Communism. "Communism" is devoted to concentrating all wealth and power in the hands of the central banking cartel (the Rothschilds and their allies) by disguising it as State power. However, Masons will not have a seat at the table. That is reserved for Jews. Freemasons "have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been brought about with their cooperation." – Henry Makow

"Freemasonry has a consistent role in directing the advancement of world crime, corruption, vice, poverty, war, revolution, collapse and chaos." – Anonymous

“The impetus behind war is the eradication of independent nations who apparently stand in the way of a Masonic world government.” - Henry Makow

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Re: Freemasons/Illuminati/Secret Societies: What's their age

Postby Taco » October 18th, 2017, 12:32 am

The first obligation of government is to ensure that society isn't taken over by a satanic cult. Our government itself has been taken over. Freemasonry deliberately corrupts and subverts society and makes every non-Mason a second-class citizen. Freemasonry is a satanic philosophy that represents a death wish for civilization. – Henry Makow

They call the lower degrees porch masons because they don't really understand what is really going on in the higher levels (that they worship Lucifer). - Anonymous

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