MrMan doesn't hate the Jews or the Gentiles

[Outcast9428]

Ah so you like the UK now? It is one of the least Christian countries in Europe after all. Being anti Christian is very British of you. Every British person on this forum hates Christianity and you are no exception.

Silly irrelevant argument. This has nothing to do with nationality.

I'm a seeker of truth, ex-Christian, have studied many different religions and evaluate every religion solely on the basis of its own content, not on irrelevant contemporary social trends.

For your information, I don't actually consider myself "British", by the way. I'm a human soul incarnated into a physical body and culturally a Mediterranean.

Ethnicity and religious beliefs are two different things.

You know as well as I do that the Old Testament massacres were perpetrated by Jews, not Christians…

The Old Testament massacres, blood sacrifices and other atrocities were committed by Jews at the behest of Yahweh. Christians (except for Gnostic Christians) worship that same deity and recognize the Old Testament as a holy scripture. You people literally worship a being who at one time ordered massacres of women and infants and even newborns. Your religion is therefore sick and perverse. So are many of its followers who knowingly condone such atrocities as "god's plan for salvation".

So Christianity is “sick” because we celebrate a martyr? You intentionally exaggerate the significance of communion rituals to make it sounds bad when it’s literally just eating a cracker and drinking some wine.

No, your religion is a cult of blood sacrifice which believes that Jesus had to be sacrificed for the redemption of human beings from Original Sin. This is not simply a martyrdom; it's literally a blood sacrifice! Even Bible-believing Christians will tell you this. This same belief and its related communion ritual are of central significance in the Christian religion. Eating the host and drinking the wine is symbolic of consuming Christ's flesh and drinking his blood and thus partaking in the redemption offered by that same blood sacrifice. Your religion is literally just a Jewish blood sacrifice ritual at its core. This is not an exaggeration; it's the truth.

And you guys think that we're "degenerates" or could only ever be motivated by "degeneracy" for not believing in your bizarre little sacrifice cult?

Why does the symbolism matter to you so damn much? At the end of the day it is a damn cracker… Not a human body. The same cannot be said for the religions you support who actually sacrificed sentient animals. Even the comparatively more civilized Greeks practiced animal sacrifices. The Ancient Romans killed dogs as part of their animal sacrifices. A ritual called Lupercalia where a goat and a dog was killed and their blood smeared on two kids. The women were whipped across the shoulders in the belief that such an act would bestow fertility. This was not just an early Roman thing either. They practiced this ritual every year until the pope banned it in 494 AD.

https://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56 ... -6286.html

But I have no doubts that you will ignore such barbaric rituals and continue whining about Christians eating crackers and drinking wine. I’m sick of your specious, disingenuous horseshit. You pretend to care about the “atrocities of Christianity” and talk about “blood sacrifices” while completely ignoring the atrocities that everybody else has committed and the utter savagery of the societies they created. The truth is you will defend any group that is opposed to Christianity regardless of the merit of the argument because of your hatred of being told the truth about what is righteous.

[Tsar]

@69ixine

millions die every year because of capitalism

Completely bogus claim.

Actually, the claim is true because people freeze to death, die of homelessness, can't afford medical treatments and dental treatments, others commit suicide, and others become overworked and develop health issues. I'm sure there's more reasons. It's not factual to deny that millions of people in the world die because of capitalism.

[Lucas88]

Why does the symbolism matter to you so damn much? At the end of the day it is a damn cracker… Not a human body. The same cannot be said for the religions you support who actually sacrificed sentient animals. Even the comparatively more civilized Greeks practiced animal sacrifices. The Ancient Romans killed dogs as part of their animal sacrifices. A ritual called Lupercalia where a goat and a dog was killed and their blood smeared on two kids. The women were whipped across the shoulders in the belief that such an act would bestow fertility. This was not just an early Roman thing either. They practiced this ritual every year until the pope banned it in 494 AD.

https://factsanddetails.com/world/cat56 ... -6286.html

But I have no doubts that you will ignore such barbaric rituals and continue whining about Christians eating crackers and drinking wine. I’m sick of your specious, disingenuous horseshit. You pretend to care about the “atrocities of Christianity” and talk about “blood sacrifices” while completely ignoring the atrocities that everybody else has committed and the utter savagery of the societies they created. The truth is you will defend any group that is opposed to Christianity regardless of the merit of the argument because of your hatred of being told the truth about what is righteous.

At this point, I don't know whether you're just acting retarded in order to willfully ignore my valid points against Christianity or whether you're really just too retarded to understand.

You follow a religion whose god repeatedly ordered massacres, the continued sacrifice of animals, infanticide and countless other atrocities (as admitted throughout the Bible).

You follow a blood sacrifice cult, believing that a Jew was literally sacrificed for your sins. You even celebrate it in church with a ritual which involves symbolic flesh eating and blood drinking.

And you think that this is righteous??? And that the people who reject this perverse insanity are unrighteous???

And your go-to defense is simply "Pagans were doing barbaric things too"???

You're not righteous!!! You're a sick degenerate who worships an evil genocidal and infanticidal god and who literally follows a Jewish blood sacrifice cult, an utterly perverted and depraved soul!!!

And, on top of that, you're too morally retarded to understand why some people don't respect your schizo religion!!!

How you can call anybody else a "degenerate" is beyond me.

You little would-be theocrat weirdos who want free rein to force your bizarre schizo cult on everybody else can shove it up your degenerate ass!

[Outcast9428]

@Lucas88

Your entire argument basically just comes down to a “No! You!” Type argument that falls flat on its face. Your argument is so dumb that it reminds me of a turbo leftist trying to argue that Zoe/zi type pronouns represent a legitimate gender.

We are not responsible for anything that the Jews did before Christ. None of the things described in the Old Testament are relevant to Christian societies. The behavior you mentioned, we have condemned for two thousand years now. You are making a deliberately disingenuous argument by bringing up things that happened before our religion even existed.

You’re calling me retarded when you’re the one trying to act like eating crackers and drinking wine is somehow just as immoral as sacrificing dogs and goats and smearing their blood all over kids while whipping the shoulders of young women. I can’t fathom how much of an idiot you have to be to think those two are worth comparing. This isn’t a case of “you did it too.” It’s a case of “only you did it.” We literally just eat crackers… Dumbass.

@Tsar

People do not freeze or starve to death in America. If they could you wouldn’t have all these welfare parasites collecting welfare instead of getting a job. And plenty of people would die from overwork in a socialist society.

[Lucas88]

Your entire argument basically just comes down to a “No! You!” Type argument that falls flat on its face. Your argument is so dumb that it reminds me of a turbo leftist trying to argue that Zoe/zi type pronouns represent a legitimate gender.

We are not responsible for anything that the Jews did before Christ. None of the things described in the Old Testament are relevant to Christian societies. The behavior you mentioned, we have condemned for two thousand years now. You are making a deliberately disingenuous argument by bringing up things that happened before our religion even existed.

You’re calling me retarded when you’re the one trying to act like eating crackers and drinking wine is somehow just as immoral as sacrificing dogs and goats and smearing their blood all over kids while whipping the shoulders of young women. I can’t fathom how much of an idiot you have to be to think those two are worth comparing. This isn’t a case of “you did it too.” It’s a case of “only you did it.” We literally just eat crackers… Dumbass.

My argument isn't complicated. It is simply as follows:

Your religion worships an evil god - the Hebrew god Yahweh - who demanded from his Hebrews countless massacres, continuous animal sacrifice, infanticide (!!!) and other atrocities. Your religion is therefore evil. You follow an evil religion. Therefore, you are evil.

Answer these questions:

Who worships the genocidal and infanticidal god Yahweh? Me or you? The answer is you. You worship a deity who literally asked his followers to slaughter children and even newborns (as attested in the Bible itself). You are therefore a perverted motherf***er and a moral degenerate. You're an evil person.

Who follows a religion whose central doctrine is the blood sacrifice of a Jew for the supposed atonement of sin? Me or you? The answer is you. You claim to be a Christian and attend church. You follow a religion based on a blood sacrifice. You are therefore perverse. You're a bit of a sicko just like your Judaic sacrifice cult religion.

You don't even understand your own religion. Christians don't just eat crackers as though you were at a tea party. They eat the host and drink wine in order to symbolically consume the flesh and drink the blood of the sacrificed Christ and thereby partake in the redemption which that blood sacrifice is supposed to offer. It is all done to symbolize the same blood sacrifice of Jesus which, according to Christian doctrine, was carried out for mankind's atonement for Original Sin. That's because Christianity at its core is indeed a blood sacrifice cult, a feature inherited from its parent religion Judaism which in fact included at least three types of animal sacrifice that were carried out regularly for the appeasement of Yahweh.

It's obvious that you are utterly clueless about the Bible and Christian doctrine.

My argument is not disingenuous; it's simple and straight to the point: Christians, like other Abrahamists, worship an evil god and so their religion is evil.

It doesn't matter that Yahweh ordered massacres, blood sacrifices and infanticide over 2000 years ago in the age of the Old Testament. Time doesn't change anything. He's still a bloodthirsty and infanticidal psychopath and an evil god. And that's the same god who Christians worship. You worship a being who possesses, by the Bible's own admission, many perverse and demonic qualities and has perpetrated many perverse and demonic things. Your religion is therefore perverse and demonic, no matter how much it tries to outwardly portray itself as a religion of light and love.

You are the one who is being disingenuous and willfully ignoring the evil characteristics of the god who you worship.

Do I worship a genocidal and infanticidal god? No, I don't. That's because I'm not a moral degenerate.

Do I follow a religion whose central doctrine is a blood sacrifice for some kind of supposed atonement? No, I don't. That's because I'm not a sicko.

I reject the bloodthirsty and infanticidal god of the Bible as well as the perverse sacrifice cult of Christianity which worships him precisely because I'm a high-vibrational and truly spiritual soul with an evolved moral conscience.

But it seems like you are utterly unable to fathom why anybody could possibly reject your psychopathic god and schizo religion for these reasons. I think that this speaks more about your own moral retardation and spiritual degeneracy than anything else.

[Moretorque]

Your entire argument basically just comes down to a “No! You!” Type argument that falls flat on its face. Your argument is so dumb that it reminds me of a turbo leftist trying to argue that Zoe/zi type pronouns represent a legitimate gender.

We are not responsible for anything that the Jews did before Christ. None of the things described in the Old Testament are relevant to Christian societies. The behavior you mentioned, we have condemned for two thousand years now. You are making a deliberately disingenuous argument by bringing up things that happened before our religion even existed.

You’re calling me retarded when you’re the one trying to act like eating crackers and drinking wine is somehow just as immoral as sacrificing dogs and goats and smearing their blood all over kids while whipping the shoulders of young women. I can’t fathom how much of an idiot you have to be to think those two are worth comparing. This isn’t a case of “you did it too.” It’s a case of “only you did it.” We literally just eat crackers… Dumbass.

My argument isn't complicated. It is simply as follows:

Your religion worships an evil god - the Hebrew god Yahweh - who demanded from his Hebrews countless massacres, continuous animal sacrifice, infanticide (!!!) and other atrocities. Your religion is therefore evil. You follow an evil religion. Therefore, you are evil.

Answer these questions:

Who worships the genocidal and infanticidal god Yahweh? Me or you? The answer is you. You worship a deity who literally asked his followers to slaughter children and even newborns (as attested in the Bible itself). You are therefore a perverted motherf***er and a moral degenerate. You're an evil person.

Who follows a religion whose central doctrine is the blood sacrifice of a Jew for the supposed atonement of sin? Me or you? The answer is you. You claim to be a Christian and attend church. You follow a religion based on a blood sacrifice. You are therefore perverse. You're a bit of a sicko just like your Judaic sacrifice cult religion.

You don't even understand your own religion. Christians don't just eat crackers as though you were at a tea party. They eat the host and drink wine in order to symbolically consume the flesh and drink the blood of the sacrificed Christ and thereby partake in the redemption which that blood sacrifice is supposed to offer. It is all done to symbolize the same blood sacrifice of Jesus which, according to Christian doctrine, was carried out for mankind's atonement for Original Sin. That's because Christianity at its core is indeed a blood sacrifice cult, a feature inherited from its parent religion Judaism which in fact included at least three types of animal sacrifice that were carried out regularly for the appeasement of Yahweh.

It's obvious that you are utterly clueless about the Bible and Christian doctrine.

My argument is not disingenuous; it's simple and straight to the point: Christians, like other Abrahamists, worship an evil god and so their religion is evil.

It doesn't matter that Yahweh ordered massacres, blood sacrifices and infanticide over 2000 years ago in the age of the Old Testament. Time doesn't change anything. He's still a bloodthirsty and infanticidal psychopath and an evil god. And that's the same god who Christians worship. You worship a being who possesses, by the Bible's own admission, many perverse and demonic qualities and has perpetrated many perverse and demonic things. Your religion is therefore perverse and demonic, no matter how much it tries to outwardly portray itself as a religion of light and love.

You are the one who is being disingenuous and willfully ignoring the evil characteristics of the god who you worship.

Do I worship a genocidal and infanticidal god? No, I don't. That's because I'm not a moral degenerate.

Do I follow a religion whose central doctrine is a blood sacrifice for some kind of supposed atonement? No, I don't. That's because I'm not a sicko.

I reject the bloodthirsty and infanticidal god of the Bible as well as the perverse sacrifice cult of Christianity which worships him precisely because I'm a high-vibrational and truly spiritual soul with an evolved moral conscience.

But it seems like you are utterly unable to fathom why anybody could possibly reject your psychopathic god and schizo religion for these reasons. I think that this speaks more about your own moral retardation and spiritual degeneracy than anything else.

That was very good, yes that book has caused alot of problems.. Even today look at what is going on in this world, you have to give them alot of credit " the authors" in predicting mans evil childish nature overall then and into the future as of today.

[Tsar]

@Tsar

People do not freeze or starve to death in America. If they could you wouldn’t have all these welfare parasites collecting welfare instead of getting a job. And plenty of people would die from overwork in a socialist society.

There are many people in the US who die from a lack of healthcare and access to the necessary prescriptions, treatments, and newest breakthroughs.