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Difficulty of obtaining citizenship in Asia?

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Post by Ghost » November 13th, 2013, 2:44 pm

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Post by ph » November 13th, 2013, 5:56 pm

Taiwan is possible to become a citizen. But its not to say its easy to become one.

Though if I had to choose between these 4 (china, japan, korea or taiwan), taiwan would work okay for PR. high quality of life, standard of living and cleanliness beats china al together. I even longed to be out of china.

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Re: Difficulty of obtaining citizenship in Asia?

Post by Winston » May 17th, 2019, 5:27 am

@Rock,
Here's a webpage about the steps to obtain citizenship in Taiwan, in case you're interested. But you probably know all about it already. I'm just posting it below for reference and if anyone else needs it.

Turning Taiwanese: A Step-By-Step Guide to Acquiring Taiwanese Citizenship

https://articles.taiwanease.com/en/2017 ... tizenship/
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Post by Yohan » May 17th, 2019, 6:08 am

Ghost wrote:
November 13th, 2013, 2:44 pm
I don't think it is possible to become a citizen of places like China, Japan, and Korea, unless you are ethnically 'one of them.'
It is possible to get Japanese nationality, regardless if you are 'ethnically one of them' or not. Not even so difficult if you live in Japan, however most foreigners like I myself are asking what do I gain with doing that?

I prefer to keep my EU-Austria citizenship and holding Japanese permanent resident status.
That's better for me. However I could apply anytime for Japanese citizenship, I fulfill all requirements living in Japan since more than 40 years, but my EU-citizenship will be lost.

However it depends on what citizenship do you have - there are many people - especially those from Asia - if they fulfill all requirements they often prefer to give back their present citizenship and take the Japanese one... I know some Filipinos, Cambodians, Vietnamese and Laotians who made it up into Japan and managed to stay here - and also some Koreans (both from North and South, who are born in Japan) and Chinese (mostly from Taiwan) who are now holding Japanese citizenship.

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Re: Difficulty of obtaining citizenship in Asia?

Post by CannedHam » May 19th, 2019, 3:11 pm

I know a guy who has PR in Panama. He owns a house and some land there and plans to split his time 50/50 between Panama and the US when he retires. From what he told me it was pretty straightforward to obtain. Not sure about citizenship.

Hong Kong is pretty easy but very lengthy. Even marriage doesn't speed up the PR process, but does give you an interim visa that needs to been renewed every year or two that is functionality a permanent residence card.

Mainland China - forget about it. Not sure about Taiwan.

Japan - I know a guy that got PR since he works in Japan and is married to a Japanese citizen. I believe it only took him a few years but I may be mis-remembering the details.

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Re: Difficulty of obtaining citizenship in Asia?

Post by Yohan » May 19th, 2019, 4:24 pm

CannedHam wrote:
May 19th, 2019, 3:11 pm
Japan - I know a guy that got PR since he works in Japan and is married to a Japanese citizen. I believe it only took him a few years but I may be mis-remembering the details.
Your information is correct. I am holding Japanese permanent residence since more than 35 years.

If you are not a tourist and are holding already a working permit/visa for one year and have a regular job/income, can speak some Japanese and are married with a Japanese citizen, the minimum waiting time is only 3 years for permanent residence. If not case by case, minimum 5 years.
Application is free of charge, if granted there is only a small stamp fee to pay.

Permanent residency is a good thing if you are in Japan - almost same as citizenship without voting right (I don't care about that)

You are within the Japanese National Health Insurance for life.
You do not need a working permit anymore, you can do any job without reporting.
You can buy your own house/land or condominium unit and open your own shop...
You have to report to Immigration only one time in 7 years to renew your ID card and residence status.
You can leave Japan, but you must be back within one year, otherwise the residence status will be lost. No re-entry permit required.
You can use the automatic gate, same as the Japanese citizens do at any Japanese international airport, very fast for departure and arrival...
You permanent residence status remains valid, even in case of divorce or if the spouse dies (with a marriage visa you might face problems ...)

As I said, I am happy with my EU(Austria) citizenship and Japanese Permanent Residence Status.
There is no reason for me to apply for Japanese citizenship, I never did any job which requires Japanese citizenship.

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About Taiwan, I have no experience myself, but I know some people from USA and Japan who are holding PR in Taiwan.
So far what they told me, it seems the requirements are somehow similar to those of Japan.

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About Thailand, it is not friendly to foreigners regarding permanent residency and citizenship. Tourists are welcome, long stay not so really.
I have a 1 year retirement visa for Thailand, my second home is in Pattaya.
If you are 50+ and have some money in a Thai bank or retirement allowance from outside of Thailand and fulfill some other requirements you can apply for 1 year retirement visa, however a Thai visa does not offer any other services like health insurance or working permit...

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