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Moretorque wrote:
April 20th, 2023, 1:55 pm
Cornfed wrote:
April 20th, 2023, 1:28 pm
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April 20th, 2023, 1:25 pm
Give yourself some credit, without the black man there would be no human race or Toyota's or Honda's or planes or crack cocaine and especially psychotic religions.
Probably modern blacks are just people cross-bred with some kind of monkey rather than our ancestral species.
I researched it over 20 years ago, the evidence is very compelling and I believe if not for them none of us would be here. A for instance all languages have been traced back to Africa because I believe when I researched this there were like over 1200 different dialects of language that originated in Africa. The Zio's have destroyed so much information since 9/11 you can hardly tell what is what today.
You make it sound like the world evolved entirely from negros when negros look completely different from everyone else. According to some people Adam and Eve were the first people in the world, but that dont' make the shit true either. And some people even say we are related to f***ing Chimps and shit. At this point I don't give two f***s about evolution or whatever the f**k else people yank out their asses about how we f***ing got here.
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April 20th, 2023, 4:33 pm
Why do you even care? You shit on the entire country all the damn time including the people living there, but because he says something about blacks you go after him. The f**k. Also he wouldn't even get sent to court over "hate-speech."
Racism should not be allowed on this forum. And it should be a permanent ban for any racist remarks at all. The United States is a multicultural country and all people are welcome and treated equally with dignity and respect.

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kangarunner wrote:
April 21st, 2023, 6:17 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
April 20th, 2023, 4:33 pm
Why do you even care? You shit on the entire country all the damn time including the people living there, but because he says something about blacks you go after him. The f**k. Also he wouldn't even get sent to court over "hate-speech."
Racism should not be allowed on this forum. And it should be a permanent ban for any racist remarks at all. The United States is a multicultural country and all people are welcome and treated equally with dignity and respect.

I'm being a good Democrat and looking out for everyone. Democrats stand for progress, forward-thinking policies, dignity, and equality.

Check out what our party stands for :

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Our party is strong because it’s built on advancing our Democratic platform and forging positive solutions that include everyone. As Democrats, we believe that every person in this nation should be treated with dignity and respect. We believe that health care is a right for all and that we should be rewarding the hard work of middle class families. We believe that our schools and streets should be free from gun violence and that a woman’s decisions about her own body are hers to make.

As the DNC, we are working together to build a bright future for everyone. We are fighting for the soul of our country, for the heart of our democracy, and for America’s place as the land of opportunity for all.
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You sound like a mutha f***ing troll dude, I'm so done with this debate with you. No for real.
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April 20th, 2023, 7:01 am
African Empires aren't doing shit because if they were "thriving" why aren't a bunch of blacks living in America and other white countries going there? You also mention "white supremacy" white Supremacy barely even exist in the U.S. there are so many whites obsessed with blacks and have this white guilt complex issue it's not even funny.

And another thing don't try to tell me shit about a race that you aren't yourself. And don't try to talk to me like you know more about black people and history than I do either. I am black myself, and actually LIVE AROUND BLACKS. You're just some guy on the damn internet that think you know every damn thing. Which you don't. A few black "empires" didn't invent any of the shit we use today, if they were half as advanced as the White and Asian countries were. They wouldn't have to invade white countries protesting and making demands about what rights they ain't got. The only supremacy I see in the West is black supremacy. How many stores can use the word "White owned business" in the West? None of them they are all forced to be about "diversity", but Black Owned is allowed and blacks don't even have to hire non-blacks if they don't want to, they aren't obligated to abide by "diversity" bullshit, and the same rule applies to Asians, Arabs, Indians, and Hispanics. Whites are the ONLY ones who have to abide by those horseshit policies in their own countries.

If someone in the work place shouted "BLACK POWER" and another Said WHITE POWER. The person yelling White power is the one getting punished. Black Panther the movie isn't reality, a large portion of blacks have no interest in Black nations NONE. Only when it's convent and serve some political point of view they pretend to care. But if African civilizations were all that great, more blacks would be flocking to live there but they aren't. That's why the vast majority of black celebs reside in the U.S. They want to move into White countries because they know that white countries ARE BETTER. I don't have to be a "white supremacist" to speak the truth. If Black nations were half as good as the white or Asians ones are, the people would stay in their own countries. People go where there are either opportunities they can steal from others, or benefits they can get just by claiming some shit happened to them in their own country.

Despite some places in Africa having wealth, it's still not on the same level as White and Asian Empires. It's funny how people can't accept that they think everything is "white supremacy" whenever it doesn't promote some equality shit about race. Blacks are inferior in every way when it comes down to managing a civilized society. Everything you use today was most likely built and created by the hands of Whites and Asians. We didn't create the f***ing Toyota's, and Honda's of the world. Hell we didn't even invent computers, or any of the other tech people use today. Reality? Black Empires are no more advanced than the Mayan Empire was. In other words, nobody cares about either unless they can push some political agenda.
Your argument doesn't make any sense, dude. So everybody should flock to Greece, or Italy, because they were home to amazing empires 2,000 or 2,500 years ago?

History is a carousel and rarely gives the same chance twice, they say. African empires collapses just the same way, perhaps for the same reasons, the Babilonian, the Phoenician, the Egyptian, the Greek, the Macedonian, the Roman, the Ottoman (and the list continues) empires did.

Blacks are not genetically inferior to whites. The only argument that has been scientifically proven is that harsher climate conditions, such as those present in Northern Europe, pushes a people, a civilisation to achieve higher level of social cohesion and stimulate ingenuity. Often these peoples are naturally belligerant because they live in an environment where resources are scarce and can only be won by competing with other inhabitants of that environment.

And that's survival instinct mixed with common sense, though, not skin colour or genes.

Historically, blacks didn't choose to move to white countries. They were transported into white countries as cheap as *uck labour, often to live under slave-like conditions. So today's migrants from Africa and certain parts of the Middle East are moving en-masse to Europe or the US, looking for better opportunities. Isn't it what countless peoples and societies did over history? The Swedes, the Irish, the Italians were not black when they moved to the US and South America. Even Japanese people, some of the most insular societies in existence, moved to Peru or Brazil during time of crop failure.

As for Blacks not inventing anything in recent history: how many blacks could access the kind of education and professional life needed to contribute to a field of science, engineering, chemistry, the medical sciences etc.? People, white or black, are not "born" geniuses and inventors. Society makes them.

One thing you people in the US haven't learned yet is to make access to quality education truly equal for all. You give scholarships to black athletes and basketball players because of sport merits, but do you really care if they even get pass grades?
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publicduende wrote:
April 21st, 2023, 5:32 pm
One thing you people in the US haven't learned yet is to make access to quality education truly equal for all. You give scholarships to black athletes and basketball players because of sport merits, but do you really care if they even get pass grades?
What an odd post. Of course no-one cares whether ape creatures playing ape ball get pass grades. It is by definition not possible to make quality education equal for all because most people and essentially all blacks are ineducable and there is no reason to educate them anyway.
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publicduende wrote:
April 21st, 2023, 5:32 pm

One thing you people in the US haven't learned yet is to make access to quality education truly equal for all. You give scholarships to black athletes and basketball players because of sport merits, but do you really care if they even get pass grades?
Well, there is quite a bit of concern about whether they pass because they have to in order to stay eligible to play. In my brief college teaching career I came under pressure just once to pass a basketball player. He was brainless as a bootstrap and under normal academic standards of days gone by would have had no chance to pass a college course, but the so-called regular students were just about as bad, so I became completely cynical about the grading system.

I've had enough exposure to American education at the high school to graduate and law school levels to say with some certainty that very, very few American students have "access to quality education," up through the undergraduate level. But at the graduate level American education is somewhat famous for its egalitarianism in the sense of having so much financial aid available. In many PhD programs tuition and all fees are covered and you get a stipend, usually enough to live on frugally, and people come from all over the world to go to American grad schools. Law schools don't have nearly so much scholarship aid available, but are, or at least used to be, perfectly adequate trade schools with fairly rigorous comparative grading. But below the ;aw and grad school level "quality education" in the U.S is almost entirely a thing of the past.
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publicduende wrote:
April 21st, 2023, 5:32 pm
...Greece, or Italy, because they were home to amazing empires 2,000 or 2,500 years ago?

.... The only argument that has been scientifically proven is that harsher climate conditions, such as those present in Northern Europe, pushes a people, a civilisation to achieve higher level of social cohesion and stimulate ingenuity. Often these peoples are naturally belligerant because they live in an environment where resources are scarce and can only be won by competing with other inhabitants of that environment.
You just contradicted yourself. Mediterranean is mild climate and food and resources are not particularly scarce (absent overpopulation) and yet they developed sooner than Northern Europe. @Cornfed 's Celtic ancestors were at the level of absolute savages back when ancient Greece was at its peak in 500 BCE. And before that, there were civilisations in India, Babylonia, etc, all of which are mild climates compared to Northern Europe.

The only true argument is that 1000 years is a blink of the eye in evolutionary time. So wait another 1000 years and then we can reopen this discussion. If Africans still haven't progressed by then, then maybe they do have a problem (though probably too much testosterone rather than too little brains).
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gsjackson wrote:
April 21st, 2023, 6:49 pm
I've had enough exposure to American education at the high school to graduate and law school levels to say with some certainty that very, very few American students have "access to quality education," up through the undergraduate level. But at the graduate level American education is somewhat famous for its egalitarianism in the sense of having so much financial aid available. In many PhD programs tuition and all fees are covered and you get a stipend, usually enough to live on frugally, and people come from all over the world to go to American grad schools. Law schools don't have nearly so much scholarship aid available, but are, or at least used to be, perfectly adequate trade schools with fairly rigorous comparative grading. But below the ;aw and grad school level "quality education" in the U.S is almost entirely a thing of the past.
That's something extremely sad, right there. Dumbening down academic standards, at least at undergraduate level, is probably the final nail in the coffin of a declining empire. Only the elite (white, Caucasian or Sephardi Jewish, the few Asian exceptions) will be educated at the top schools, while others are better off learning from YouTube and TikTok.

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Shemp wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 3:00 am
You just contradicted yourself. Mediterranean is mild climate and food and resources are not particularly scarce (absent overpopulation) and yet they developed sooner than Northern Europe. @Cornfed 's Celtic ancestors were at the level of absolute savages back when ancient Greece was at its peak in 500 BCE. And before that, there were civilisations in India, Babylonia, etc, all of which are mild climates compared to Northern Europe.

The only true argument is that 1000 years is a blink of the eye in evolutionary time. So wait another 1000 years and then we can reopen this discussion. If Africans still haven't progressed by then, then maybe they do have a problem (though probably too much testosterone rather than too little brains).
The argument is the reverse, actually: harsh climate is a necessary condition for a civilisation to learn to organise themselves to survive, but mild climate is not a sufficient condition for a civilisation to fail evolving.

Also, consider that an important measure of progress of a civilisation is the ratio of members who partake in resource sharing, over those who produce those resources. Even at peak splendor, most advanced civilisations were also deeply inequal, their opulent economies heavily based on tributes from colonies, slave labour and short-lived trade opportunities. Civilisations hailing from northern Europe, perhaps never displayed highs of technical progress but were naturally more "collectivist", hence resource distribution was fairer.

Then I agree with your argument: as you say, human history isn't measured in hundreds of years, but in thousands or tens of thousands of years. On a long enough time line, history may have given every people in every corner of this planet a chance at building a civilisation, an empire.

As it stands, it has nothing to do with genetically superior races or intellects.
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publicduende wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 4:43 am
Shemp wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 3:00 am
You just contradicted yourself. Mediterranean is mild climate and food and resources are not particularly scarce (absent overpopulation) and yet they developed sooner than Northern Europe. @Cornfed 's Celtic ancestors were at the level of absolute savages back when ancient Greece was at its peak in 500 BCE. And before that, there were civilisations in India, Babylonia, etc, all of which are mild climates compared to Northern Europe.

The only true argument is that 1000 years is a blink of the eye in evolutionary time. So wait another 1000 years and then we can reopen this discussion. If Africans still haven't progressed by then, then maybe they do have a problem (though probably too much testosterone rather than too little brains).
The argument is the reverse, actually: harsh climate is a necessary condition for a civilisation to learn to organise themselves to survive, but mild climate is not a sufficient condition for a civilisation to fail evolving.

Also, consider that an important measure of progress of a civilisation is the ratio of members who partake in resource sharing, over those who produce those resources. Even at peak splendor, most advanced civilisations were also deeply inequal, their opulent economies heavily based on tributes from colonies, slave labour and short-lived trade opportunities. Civilisations hailing from northern Europe, perhaps never displayed highs of technical progress but were naturally more "collectivist", hence resource distribution was fairer.
No, there is no need for a harsh climate for civilisation. You have the perfect counter examples: Rome and Greece. There are also the civilizations of India. South and Central China is not particularly hatsh. Etc. The fact that Northern America, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia currently dominate is simply a fluke of history. If yiu really want a law of history based on North vs South, harsh vs mild , its this: civilisation develops first in mild climates, then corruption and decadence sets in, meanwhile civilisation spreads to harsh climates, and because they are less corrupt and decadent, they prevail. Then the cycle continues: now the harsh climate civilisations become corrupt and decadent, whereas the mild climate civilisations bottom out and prepare to rise again. So while the Europeans are going extinct with homosexuality and transgenderism, Muslim and African states will eventually rise and conquer them. Maybe @Cornfed's ancestral Scotland will have a coal black Negro as king 200 years from now.
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Shemp wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 6:12 am
No, there is no need for a harsh climate for civilisation. You have the perfect counter examples: Rome and Greece. There are also the civilizations of India. South and Central China is not particularly hatsh. Etc. The fact that Northern America, Northern Europe and Northeast Asia currently dominate is simply a fluke of history. If yiu really want a law of history based on North vs South, harsh vs mild , its this: civilisation develops first in mild climates, then corruption and decadence sets in, meanwhile civilisation spreads to harsh climates, and because they are less corrupt and decadent, they prevail. Then the cycle continues: now the harsh climate civilisations become corrupt and decadent, whereas the mild climate civilisations bottom out and prepare to rise again. So while the Europeans are going extinct with homosexuality and transgenderism, Muslim and African states will eventually rise and conquer them. Maybe @Cornfed's ancestral Scotland will have a coal black Negro as king 200 years from now.
Climate in Italy is not very harsh, but it's not year-round hot, either. We have strong winters and, in the past, crop failure and famine were very common. Ancient Greece and ancient Rome are good examples of civilisations that thrived because society was defined and functioned by strict hierarchies. As soon as the empire grew too vast and that level of cohesion and discipline became impossible to sustain, they collapsed.

Same as recent history, after all. The elites will continue to dictate their agendas, the sheeple will follow.
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