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Do you guys living in America know that this is going to happen? Less freedom in the supposed "Land of the Free"!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/a-national- ... ay-11.html
A National ID Card For American Citizens? Get Ready â€“ The Real ID Act Goes Into Effect On May 11
For a moment, imagine a future where you are not able to drive a car, get on a plane, get on a train, vote, enter a federal building, open a bank account or get a job without a national ID card. You donâ€™t think that could ever happen in America? Well, you might want to brush up on the Real ID Act because it is going to go into effect on May 11, 2011 unless something is done to stop it. When I first learned this, I was absolutely stunned. After all, wasnâ€™t the Real ID Act supposed to be â€œdeadâ€�? A few years ago state legislatures across the nation were in an uproar over this law. The Department of Homeland Security was forced to delay implementation of it several times. But now it is back. You see, this is what the federal government often does. They will try to push something very unpopular through, and if they meet resistance they will â€œplay deadâ€� until the uproar has died down and then they will come right back and implement it anyway. This is what is happening with the Real ID Act.
As of May 11, all driverâ€™s licenses across the United States will be required to conform to federal national security standards. In essence, our licenses are now going to be federalized.
Yes, this is really happening. A Fox News article from a couple weeks ago confirmed that these â€œnational ID cardsâ€� will be required to board airplanes and enter federal buildingsâ€¦.
States must be in compliance by May with the regulations laid out in the 2005 REAL ID Act. The law, a recommendation of the Sept. 11 commission that investigated the 2001 terror attacks, creates a national security standard for state-issued identification cards to be used for purposes like boarding airplanes and entering federal buildings.
Isnâ€™t that great?
Now security goons will be able to ask us for our â€œpapersâ€� just like they used to do in Nazi Germany and the USSR.
Back in 2008, former U.S. Representative Bob Barr wrote the following about how not having one of these new national ID cards will automatically strip us of some of our most fundamental rightsâ€¦.
â€œA person not possessing a Real ID Act-compliant identification card could not enter any federal building, or an office of his or her congressman or senator or the U.S. Capitol. This effectively denies that person their fundamental rights to assembly and to petition the government as guaranteed in the First Amendment.â€�
Of course the Department of Homeland Security insists that the Real ID Act is just here to â€œhelpâ€� us and to make life â€œbetterâ€� and â€œmore secureâ€�. According to their website, some of the goals of the Real ID Act are â€œto help prevent terrorism, reduce fraud, and improve the reliability and accuracy of personal identification documents.â€�
But is this really what we want America to become?
A nation where we are constantly passing through checkpoints and where security goons are constantly checking our national ID card?
What kind of liberty and freedom is that?
Eventually these national ID cards will likely be required for virtually every single interaction that we have with the federal government.
Can you imagine the kind of power that the federal government will have to watch us and track our activities if this thing gets fully implemented?
The more you really think about the notion of a national ID card for Americans the more repulsive it becomes.
Eventually, without a â€œReal IDâ€� you will not be able to be hired by most employers. So in essence, you will be required to get the permission of the federal government before you can work.
Without a â€œReal IDâ€�, your ability to travel will be greatly restricted. Eventually there will be very few modes of public transportation that you will be able to use without having a national ID card.
And what if you lose your national ID card? Talk about a headache!
Hey, eventually they might just decide to solve that problem by putting a microchip directly into our hands.
Wouldnâ€™t that be convenient?
Can you see where all of this is headed? Many of the people that are attempting to implement this thing may have â€œgood intentionsâ€�, but we all know what they say about â€œgood intentionsâ€�.
We do not need a national ID card to have a nation that is safe and secure.
Please contact your representatives in Washington D.C. and let them know that you want the Real ID Act repealed once and for all.
If we put up with a national ID card, then the Obama administration will be emboldened to try to implement the â€œuniversal Internet IDâ€� that they have been talking about.
The sad truth is that America is no longer â€œthe land of the freeâ€œ. The government has decided that in order to keep us â€œsafeâ€�, everything that we do must be watched, tracked, traced, recorded and controlled.
It doesnâ€™t matter whether the Democrats are in power or if the Republicans are in power â€“ every year the United States becomes even more like a prison camp.
Hopefully the American people will wake up and will realize that this is not what our founding fathers intended.
So what do you all think about the coming implementation of the Real ID Act? Please feel free to leave a comment with your thoughts belowâ€¦.
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and stoic philosopher, 121-180 A.D.
Not that I doubt this is coming, but wouldn't it take a long time for the Feds to roll out this thing, with a lot of advanced planning and announcements? My long personal experience with the Feds is that they can't do anything without extreme effort, lots of screw-ups, wasted time, and wasted taxpayer money. Case in point:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... TopStories
(Incidentally, this is why I don't buy into most conspiracy theories about the Feds: they can't keep a secret any better than a bunch of HS girls keeping a secret about someone in their class getting knocked up after the prom).
My wife and child will be leaving the country permanently in 30 days, with me soon to follow, so this won't affect me I imagine. However, living in Europe everyone is required to have a national ID card. It's just something I'm going to have to tolerate for other levels of freedom.
This is some scary shit! The next thing will be a computer chip in your hand for ALL transactions, (banking, buying groceries, etc.). All in the name of "national security" is what the government tells us. The Fema camps will be ready to take anyone who does not comply with these "new rules."
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
We've NEVER been free. Anyone who's thought that is deluded.
We have certain human rights that are NOT INALIENABLE. These rights are conferred. Look at the countries where their "rights" are violated over and over again and tell me that they are inalienable.
This Real ID bs is essentially rebadging a passport card ID as a national ID.
Those IDs already have chips in them anyway. What we are doing is requiring everyone to have one for ID verification.
Anyway, we already have to show IDs just about everywhere that we need to actually verify our ID. Are we going to need a Real ID to get on public transportation? No. I don't expect this to actually change squat for the legal population.
The REAL issue isn't whether or not we should have federally mandated IDs, the real issue is WHO WILL PAY FOR THEM. Most states simply don't have the money or resources to make the change. That's the only thing that's delayed or prevented it from happening until now.
bush admin. made sure to announce a future biometric national id card on 6/6/06
interestingly "mark of beast" = 666 if
a = 6
b = 12
c = 18
x = 144
y = 150
z = 156
that's because english was a manufactured language, and much of it revolves around synonyms for anal penetration
btw all us passports since 2008 have an rfid chip inside.