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Cameron Teone

Postby fox » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:25 am

Hey guys,

I usually don't talk about dating coaches\Gurus but Cameron is different....

He used to be a part of the seduction commnunity but he Left it. Now he is bashing and making fun of other seduction Gurus because he thinks that they are misleading guys.

He hates Style and Soporno...thinks Zan covers the basics but too much Zan can land you in a "fantasy land". He thinks Hypnotica & SteveP are good people. He thinks Brent (aka PUA GoldieLocks on his blog) is very shallow and all he does is go to cocktail parties and you can't talk about anything interesting with him And he mostly gets laid because of his professional male model looks and the kind of girls he goes after- low and shallow bar girls.

he is one of the few seduction teachers I have respect for because he doesn't sell or promise quick fixes.

he has nice articles on his blog:

he has an ebook:
The Attributes (The Characteristics Of A Seducer)

it's a nice read & Definetely something revolutionary for it's time. Everybody back then were about routines and techniques...Cameron and David X were probably the only popular "natural game" coaches.

he wrote an intresting artical exposing the seduction gurus, why they have success and why they can't teach it.
here is just a part of the article:

This is the Forbidden article.!

This is the article you ARE NOT supposed to read! This is the article that’s going to have some Dating “Gurusâ€￾ upset with me. This is the kind of stuff we are not supposed to talk about. It doesn’t sell…. It doesn’t deliver a quick fix magic bullet in a bottle you can drink overnight….My peers who sell dating advice quick-fixes will frown upon this....

Well, there are a lot of guys who seek refuge on the Internet to learn to be better with women, to learn to attract women, to have more women in their lives. There are no shortage of gurus out there trying to sell quick-fixes that’ll take you to the promised land. Granted, a lot of guys have good pointers that they are teaching. I am questioning the validity of the concepts. SOME of the concepts are good to learn.
What 90% of them fail to tell you is the advantages that they give themselves in this arena. What are those advantages?

I’d like to call it an “Edge.â€￾ Everyone presents some sort of an edge which separates him from the rest of the pack of eligible men. There is nothing wrong with this. This is not to vilify anyone. It’s only bringing attention to it so that YOU can start working on your edge....

If you’re obsessed with having really physically attractive women at any cost, then you have to increase your edge. You want to date lots of models? You’d better increase your edge by quite a bit...

So what gives one guy an edge over the other? The edge has to be something that separates from the rest of the pack on some level. It gives you some sort of ability to be distinguished. This could be something you’re born with or something you develop, cultivate, or financially acquire.

•Let’s start with the obvious first: Being very physically good looking, having a very athletic and appealing physique, being 6’5″ tall (195cm), and so forth… These can all serve as advantages.

•It could be personality or individual traits: Being a great conversationalist or storyteller, great sense of humor, being charming, being charismatic, high social intelligence,

•It could be things you worked for: Be it making lots of money, prestigious job, being a doctor/surgeon, or working jobs that are conducive to being around women, (club promoters, DJs, bouncers, even a yoga teacher).

Guys who are good at drawing women into their life have an edge that they intrinsically and inherently understand. It may be subconscious and they may not realize it. They may even be super good-looking guys who genuinely think they’re pulling some game out of their ass, but in reality, they’re living off of their physical looks. Then, after the fact, their conscious mind is rationalizing as to the reasons why. I am fairly convinced that there are men who get laid despite their antics. That meaning that what they consider “Gameâ€￾ is something annoying women are willing to overlook because they’re interested in them for other reasons.

Let’s look at the Seduction Community and gurus you may know, or have heard of……Let’s cut through the chase. I am going to give you real life examples of dating-teachers. I’ll explain what their edge is...

• Mystery: Erik is 6’5 inches tall, (Yes, height is an edge.) That, in and of by itself is an edge. Yes, there are plenty of tall dorks who repel women but if you have the basics down, the height quickly becomes an edge. He is also a magician, a self proclaimed “Super-Star daredevil illusionist!â€￾ He plays the status game. A very tall individual who has always played the pseudo-celeb game.

• Neil Strauss: Neil does not have physical good looks or height to his advantage. So what’s his edge? He is a writer for Rolling Stone magazine, a Rock reporter for the NY Times, best selling author. (There is nothing wrong with being a reporter for a major magazine. If you have an edge, use it. Nothing wrong with that.) Lastly, he is highly skilled in manipulation tactics, uses his social status as leverage to make people feel below him.. (This will be explained later).

• Stephen Nash. Edge: To start with, he is a well-dressed guy with a great classy presentation. His biggest edge is that he is an interesting person, great conversationalist, very smooth, has traveled various places, well-read. Very pleasant person to generally talk with. Given that, he is going to be far more interesting than the average guy for a woman to talk with. Talking with Stephen for 30 minutes will leave you with the impression that this is a guy who has experienced a lot of various things in life, worn a lot of different hats.

• Swinggcat - Another guy who is fun to hang out with; Also has a high level understanding of social dynamics, and has a good understanding of social-psychology which enables him to push people’s buttons well. He is well-read and articulate, and without going into too much details, he is able to work in sneaky angles as well. Also working in his favor is that he can be aggressive with women, willing to push the envelope. Also, well dressed, well groomed, and in good physical shape.

• Steve P - possesses a very strong frame/identity; he is funny/satirical, and he is a metaphysical/Spiritual teacher. Steve is an interesting person to hang around, and he is one funny dude. Unfortunately, you don’t get to see that side of Steve when he is teaching on stage, but when you spend time with him, you’ll see he is a lot of fun. He has a very unmistaken masculine vibe, which cannot be faked. It’s not a gimmick, it’s something cultivated through life experiences. Edge: Expert Teacher in Metaphysical studies & female sexuality, super masculine vibe, really interesting person.

• Zan - Looks like a male model, charming, interesting person, has great stories of romance and fantasy. Zan is able to draw people into his reality and the way he see things. Fun and very pleasant to spend time with. If you’ve seen Zan speak, you can clearly see how he can draw people into his world and how he sees things in a very pleasant non-threatening way. Edge: Male-model looks, and charm as well as the ability to suck people into his fantasy world.

• Brent - Obvious edge: He looks like a professional male model. All he has to do is show up, chat with girls, be aloof. He is that good looking where he has to do almost nothing. He is not a relationship type of guy and he is not looking for a relationship type of woman. His edge and person match his perspective archetype. His obvious edge: Dude looks like a soap opera star and doesn’t give a shit about anything. Granted, this works well with a certain archetype of woman and that’s the kind Brent wants anyway.

• Johnny SoPorno: Interesting character and also different than the guys on the list as he self-admittedly likes women in the “Skin-Tradeâ€￾ or sex business, (Porn, Escorts, prostitutes, etc.) What’s his edge? Social dominances over his target demographic. He talks nonstop, no one can get a word in edgewise when he is around, and more importantly, he is involved with the porn industry. Being in the porn business, he can dangle a career upgrade to women in the selling-sex business, (Porn, prostitution, escorts, etc.) These are the type of women he desires and he can leverage his position in the industry to draw them in. (Remember, it’s important to know what archetype of woman you WANT!)......

• David DeAngelo: He is not the type of man to cold-approach women, yet I threw him in because he is vastly different that all of the aforementioned men (and he is a dating â€￾Guruâ€￾ after all). How is he different? He has zero fun factor and he has zero charisma. Yes, he may be one of the most boring humanoids on the planet to spend time with in person. However, being a decent looking man as well as a brilliant marketer who is worth tens of millions of dollars, owning a Ferrari and entire Apartment complexes and businesses goes a long way in bringing forgiveness to lack of personality. Edge: Smart dude, very successful entrepreneur worth 10s of millions of dollars, decent looking.

What does this mean to you? How can YOU achieve consistent results? It’s to encourage you to do 2 things:

1. Handle the Foundational Skills....

2. Work on cultivating your niche edge....

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Postby Repatriate » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:14 am

This asshole is still trying to sell CDs and other crap though. His advice may be contrary to some of the PUA gurus but he's still doing the same thing cashing in on methods.
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