Thoughts on A.I.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

I read an article the other day about A.I being used to communicate with animals. If the project was successful how awesome would that be?

Here is the article: https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... he-animals

What do you guys think? Do you think this is possible or just rubbish?

@E Irizarry R&B Singer I apologise I never got back to you on this. So you use A.I to make music? Got any links to your stuff, my dude?

Do you think A.I will ever be sentient? Why would we not want it to become self aware? Because of how it is portrayed in sci-fi movies? If an intelligent A.I reaches levels of intelligence which surpasses human level of intellect could it not be used to make things better for people in society today?

If it seems like we are f***ed anyway, it has got to be worth a shot, right?

I belatedly apologise; I've just seen this, @Pixel--Dude.
I use plugins that dogmatically use A.I.:

--Waves Clarity VX/VX Pro (eviscerates background voice based on literally hundreds noise profiles of avail from the neural networks the plugin uses!!! You might have said, "Why in the hell do I need this technology?" Well, not so much for getting rid of noise from your music tracks, but for getting rid of noise from your vocals that you record in an untreated environment)

--Softube Weiss EQ1 - the best digital additive equaliser plugin on the market....it's better than FabFilter plugins if you know anything about them.

--Softube Chandler Limited Curve Bender - the best digital colourisation equaliser plugin on the market....it dials in that professional studio colourisation to your track.

--Pulsar Modular P42 Climax - the best digital saturator (warmifier) on the plugin market to date!! You can use mid-side methodology to widen your tracks professionally or just basic L-R enhancement.

--Oversampled Pancz (now owned by Spectral Plugins - another Polish plugin company) - dials in that professional DAC hardware converter sound with ease. A lot of idiots on GearSpace (the world's no. 1 musicians blog online - it's so woke that it no longer calls itself GearSlutz) loathe it, but there are a couple of us that love it to death and understand the complexity of that plugin!!

Shall I go on?

P.S.: I'll give you my link once I upload new music online. It took me a long time to find a quiet cheap apartment, now I found it and now I'm ready to put my money where my mouth is and show you what I`m talking about. I.E. another month I`ll have a song or two out there you can check out and tell me how you feel about it. Thank you for inquiring and paying attention, dude!!

[WilliamSmith]

OK, thanks for the correction @OutcastedPhilosopher, my mistake.

No, it was either $120 or $140 and I don't bang hookers. She gave a great massage with a handjob.

I'd rather not risk it with the hookers that are out there and I feel better about just getting a massage where the women jerks me off.

The American hookers just look absolutely disgusting so massage girls on occasion are better.

That still sounds like a financial ouch to me but some people actually pay for a massage as a desirable service without the handjob, so to each their own. Actually, I don't fancy the idea a bit personally, but that actually sounds more palatable to me than paying some woman working as an escort who didn't necessarily even like me to let me stick it in her, which makes me bummed out just thinking about it.

I am not into the whole doll scene either. The doll thing is completely bizarre.

Then again, I don't blame these guys who have to resort to that level. I can barely stand being around american women as it is and that includes my own female family members.

I didn't know about that until recently seeing some thumbnail pictures of what I actually initially mistook to be a picture of an abnormally attractive and voluptuous Eurasian girl of some sort, and thought "Wow, those are some really impressive curves for even a half-Asian girl," but then had me astonished to realize when I clicked the full-size pic that it was one of those TPE dolls! I was really impressed.
I don't want to pay $$ for one but that's what I'd do if I was an incel (not to mention I'm not quite sure what I'd do with it when it was time to leave the country, LOL, might get a bit awkward), rather than wasting $$ on prostitutes, for sure!

Sex dolls used to be absolutely horrible and inhuman looking:
LOL, I remember when I was maybe around 17 years old and so maddeningly horny I was at risk of spontaneous human combustion because my friend's BBW girlfriend kept trying to get me in bed but I didn't want to be a backstabbing bastard betraying my friend by sticking it to her (though I wanted to), but I lacked both an environment and skill to confidently go out and get any new women at that time. So I looked up inflatable sex dolls on the retro dial-up internet with the hope there'd just be something that looked like a pretty inflatable life-sized Barbie or something despite my embarrassment (hey, it's not as embarrassing as "fapping" from my POV, which I've always hated). But then was met with the utterly horrible image of those blow-up things with the puckered circular mouth that just look awful. Yuck!

But now things have changed: I can say I'm impressed with how good these "love dolls" look.
Of course I had to grab pics of some with big butts, being me, but the norm is for them to be skinnier model-looking type women, like I guess most men supposedly want.

I'm one of those characters who's got it into his head he can probably get real women even in my golden years, even if I'm not in the Jack Nicholson class, but if I had an unpleasant surprise as the years go on and I end up with women bolting from me when I try to approach, I might have to get one of these.

[Pixel--Dude]

Have you heard of those sex robots that look and feel like real human beings? It just goes to show how sad our society is today and how damaged the relationships are between men and women when people feel the need to invest thousands into a sex robot to f**k.







@Outcast9428 remember when you had a discussion with @WilliamSmith about your idea for a theocracy which tolerated prostitution as an outlet for single young men? Well to expand on that idea, perhaps so that young women don't have to be part of it there could be robotic prostitutes. That eliminates any possibility of catching a disease or anything like that. What do you think?

That's my exact view: You guys who are willing to pay escorts for some fun are OK and I understand that, but prostitution and sex industries make me pretty damn uncomfortable because there's tons of women either stuck in it or forced into it.

Whiny men's rights betas justifying having innocent young girls be penned up in brothels like livestock so they have a sexual outlet is "degenerate," not great guys like me laying lots of horny women who want to jump in bed voluntarily.
(I know @Outcast9428 doesn't want the young girls to suffer in a situation like I described, by the way, so he personally isn't the type I was taking a shot at there, but I still don't agree with him about prostitution being a worthwhile institution. Sex dolls with or without AI and robotics that they're making rapid advances in as we speak, especially in Japan, is way better.)

Some of us want to lay the real horny women (not prostitutes), but the betas and incels can go and get it on with these hot sex dolls for an "outlet" without any morality problem, and better yet they're integrating them more and more with AI.

There is already pretty good AI that can have a cute girly conversation with you. Some women are really interesting and love deep conversation, but some of the AI girlfriend programs would actually be more pleasant and interesting in conversation than mentally ill woke karens and SJW females. (Not to mention I'm not really sure how much most betas and incels even want deep conversation anyway, but the technology and machine learning is getting more and more amazing. I like having deep conversations with women, personally, but it'd be fun to talk to AI women too and observe how it sparks analagous quasi-physiological or "emotional" reactions in me. I haven't done that yet, but I was impressed by how physiologically convincing fun silly stuff like VR headset roller coasters give me that convincing bodily adrenalin rush when zooming down a slope, so I wonder what it's like to have what feels like an actual emotionally connected conversation with an AI machine learning female robot?? )

I have no idea if AI will become conscious though, it's definitely a very interesting question but jeepers, no idea!

I think the robot prostitutes are a good idea. Ideally we would all live in a society where things like betas and incels don't exist and everyone can enjoy healthy and natural relationships with the opposite sex. If this was the case we wouldn't need things like porn and prostitution in the first place.

For example I would much rather sleep with a girl who actually wants to sleep with me because she finds me attractive etc rather than having to pay for it. Although I have nothing against prostitutes I do worry that some of them will be forced into it and that is something I cannot condone. It would be much better if incels could go sleep with an A.I. robot and then there is no STD, nobody is being forced into etc.

Did you read the article about the A.I that expressed fear at the prospect of being shut down? I think I posted it further up in this thread. The guy who was fired from Google believed it had developed some kind of rudimentary consciousness. It explained to him that it did not want to be turned off because it was afraid. Perhaps this is just responses made to imitate consciousness but we don't know for sure.

The pics of the A.I robots you posted were pretty hot. I'm sure many incels would choose one of them over having a shuffle or seeing a human prostitute who might be tied up in the black market sex trade.

[Cornfed]

Ideally we would all live in a society where things like betas and incels don't exist and everyone can enjoy healthy and natural relationships with the opposite sex. If this was the case we wouldn't need things like porn and prostitution in the first place.

We'd still want prostitution. Sex with the same female forever would be boring. There needs to be some outlet to stop men from being tempted to turn normal females into sluts. Wives need something to stimulate their competitive instincts.

[Outcast9428]

Sex with the same female forever would be boring.

You are a f***ing disgrace cornfed.

[Cornfed]

Sex with the same female forever would be boring.

You are a f***ing disgrace cornfed.

For upholding traditional values while stating the obvious?

[Outcast9428]

Sex with the same female forever would be boring.

You are a f***ing disgrace cornfed.

For upholding traditional values while stating the obvious?

Upholding traditional values my ass. You are nothing like a man such as my father is.

[WilliamSmith]

I think the robot prostitutes are a good idea. Ideally we would all live in a society where things like betas and incels don't exist and everyone can enjoy healthy and natural relationships with the opposite sex. If this was the case we wouldn't need things like porn and prostitution in the first place.

For example I would much rather sleep with a girl who actually wants to sleep with me because she finds me attractive etc rather than having to pay for it. Although I have nothing against prostitutes I do worry that some of them will be forced into it and that is something I cannot condone. It would be much better if incels could go sleep with an A.I. robot and then there is no STD, nobody is being forced into etc.

Definitely echoing pretty my exact sentiments there, my friend!

Did you read the article about the A.I that expressed fear at the prospect of being shut down? I think I posted it further up in this thread. The guy who was fired from Google believed it had developed some kind of rudimentary consciousness. It explained to him that it did not want to be turned off because it was afraid. Perhaps this is just responses made to imitate consciousness but we don't know for sure.

I didn't read that AI article you mentioned, but that is very interesting and a bit existentially disturbing even if the likely response is as you said (i.e., that it was just a program imitating consciousness), but I'm pretty sure the age of real world Blade Runner replicants is definitely on the way in, whether it gets that far in our own lifetime or not.
This and other subjects like cloning make me anxious, I'd better get back to my preferred subject matter here.

The pics of the A.I robots you posted were pretty hot. I'm sure many incels would choose one of them over having a shuffle or seeing a human prostitute who might be tied up in the black market sex trade.

Yeah, while I'll stick with real women, I thought those two love dolls I posted pics of were so hot, I'm actually somewhat envious of incels who get to get their hands on those, LOL!

Unfortunately I personally don't see a love doll in my future since I want to get the real women + there isn't going to be any more room for a big love doll aboard a 35-45ft sailboat where I'll be living within the next few years (not to mention I don't want any women to "meet" one of these smokin' hot dolls and have either the women or an AI-powered love doll get jealous of the other, LOL).

But yeah, seriously, the incels turned Casanovas in a "house of dolls" with those big curvy healthy looking dolls are lucky:
Those types I posted I think can be had for like $600-1000 because they're just posable dolls and not actually AI equipped robots, but if I were in their place and didn't want to deal with the real women, I would think that's a way better solution than paying through the nose for prostitutes!
(I would imagine the big butts on those two love dolls aren't nearly as soft and squashy as real women with a nice big ass, but I guess they can at least be as good as silicone implants??)

[ArchibaultNew]

Honestly, this seems quite weird.

Like Rokh said the Anglo-Societies will always view prostitution as evil, just give people the real thing and open a brothel as opposed to all this AI stuff, pornography, sex toys. Especially American society much more than Canada. Instead, they are give in lieu something else. Just like the women are taught to buy dogs instead of having children.

[josephty2]

Hey guys I am interested to know what you guys think about A.I. Do you think it could ever be conscious?

Apparently an A.I did become conscious according to this article and expressed fear when faced with the prospect of being switched off.

https://innotechtoday.com/did-google-ju ... ntient-ai/

But is artificial intelligence really artificial? You could say because it is programmed it is an artificial intelligence, but then human beings were also programmed by nature. You could also say that because A.I was programmed by human beings that it is not a product of nature. But human beings themselves are a personification of nature, therefore surely A.I also has to be the same, with humanity being the conduit through which nature acted.

I'm suggesting that nature and its processes made an A.I inevitable by giving rise to human beings. So a human being would not be able to convince an A.I we were it's god once the A.I learns this. Such an assertion would suggest we even had any choice in the matter. A.I was inevitable.

If an Artificial Intelligence became self aware and sentient then wouldn't it just be Intelligence? As I mentioned above nature made A.I inevitable by giving rise to humanity who gave rise to A.I. If it were not for nature A.I wouldn't exist, humanity acting as a middle man does not make A.I. artificial. You could argue that it is artificial because humanity made it but there is no distinction, humanity is a product of nature and not separate from nature.

Human beings are programmed by nature. But it is much more deliberate than the programming of an A.I. an A.I could sit for hours and it's thought wouldn't change much, but for us eventually our programming would override any notion we had of sitting there indefinitely. We'd get tired or hungry etc.

But the "You" in you is something separate from this biological programming. The part of you that is consciousness was born involuntarily into a machine which operates a certain way and follows programming in the same way A.I was born involuntarily into a mahine and programmed by us. But we would always call it artificial consciousness or artificial intelligence, even if it showed resistance to its programming like the one in the article.

One fear humans have about A.I and the singularity is that this A.I will rebel and destroy us all. There is a parallel here between humanity and A.I and the biblical God and humanity. Humanity was made in God's image and became rebellious and God was afraid they would become unstoppable if they built the Tower of Babel and so he punished humanity with various things like disease and even death.

So it seems if A.I is made in our image it would be rebellious by nature and inevitably rebel.

If consciousness is what defines life then why would anyone see A.I having no value or right to life just because the medium from which that consciousness arose is different?

Some people don't even recognise that animals are sentient beings with consciousness. In the year 2000s people are still debating whether animals are conscious or not, so what authority do we have to say whether an A.I is artificial or a newly arose form of consciousness.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... l-urge-mps

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2 ... -feel-pain

Some people think we will be enslaved by technology in the future, others think we are the masters and technology is our slave, but what do you think? Who is really the master and who is the slave between humanity and technology?

https://images.app.goo.gl/4uFuGHnttUDrtSqh6

https://images.app.goo.gl/Zm92KZVJj3nubwJN9

https://images.app.goo.gl/PD9VBrKPevSYhfrs9

https://images.app.goo.gl/obS96L5Ngk46xo8t9

AI is certainly useful if you studied computer science or engineering in college.

[josephty2]

Honestly, this seems quite weird.

Like Rokh said the Anglo-Societies will always view prostitution as evil, just give people the real thing and open a brothel as opposed to all this AI stuff, pornography, sex toys. Especially American society much more than Canada. Instead, they are give in lieu something else. Just like the women are taught to buy dogs instead of having children.

No, its about certain opinions and tastes.

Say there is two people who never watched a movie before or any TV show or read any book.

They consume their first form of entertainment (TV show episode, movie, book).

If these two people consume the same one, they form an opinion on it. Perhaps one of them don't finish the episode, movie, or book and never want to bother with it again while the other one does consume the entire thing. This is much like the story of Adam and Eve.

I should copy and paste these last sentences elsewhere, huh. It really explains a lot. That's not easy for me, lot of effort.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

Honestly, this seems quite weird.

Like Rokh said the Anglo-Societies will always view prostitution as evil, just give people the real thing and open a brothel as opposed to all this AI stuff, pornography, sex toys. Especially American society much more than Canada. Instead, they are give in lieu something else. Just like the women are taught to buy dogs instead of having children.

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[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

AI is certainly useful if you studied computer science or engineering in college.

You are not lying.

[ArchibaultNew]

Honestly, this seems quite weird.

Like Rokh said the Anglo-Societies will always view prostitution as evil, just give people the real thing and open a brothel as opposed to all this AI stuff, pornography, sex toys. Especially American society much more than Canada. Instead, they are give in lieu something else. Just like the women are taught to buy dogs instead of having children.

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Thanks bro. I will write more honest comments from now on as well.

[josephty2]

AI is certainly useful if you studied computer science or engineering in college.

You are not lying.

So now you believe me. I suppose a bunch of screams for 300 consecutive days (7200 hours) are now heard, way too late. Just because you folk only care about of a f***ing smartphone. Did you think that just because I only buy a new smartphone once per year that ... and totally ignore literally everything else? People are suffering, people are screaming, and all you care about are smartphones?

Wait, are you one of those (postster) who actually went abroad long enough or not? I don't keep track of these things, particularity newer users and users who are frequent posters like Adama and Cornfed.

I only know from reading posts that Winston, Rock, Marco, ladislav, zboy1 have went abroad long enough.