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I've never understood something about the sinking of the Titanic.

How can ice possibly cut through a thick metal hull? Isn't that theoretically impossible? Has ice tearing through metal ever been replicated under scientific testing conditions?

Also, isn't this unprecedented in that it's never happened to a ship before, even to ships made of wood?

And isn't it odd how the Titanic suddenly split in half like that? How can a sturdy unsinkable ship just break in half like that? Why so much damage and destruction just for scraping ice?

Here is something interesting by the way:

http://www.gettysburgghosts.net/titan.htm
In April 14, 1912, the huge "unsinkable" ship the Titanic was steaming across the Atlantic towards New York. This was the Titanic's maiden voyage, and her captain was encouraged to break the record for speed while making the voyage. As most people know, after striking an iceberg, the unsinkable ship went down in only a matter of hours. Out of the 2,201 passengers, only 711 were saved. Since then, there have been many books and movies about the Titanic.

There was one fictional story written by a merchant seaman by the name of Morgan Robertson. Robertson's book was about an unsinkable passenger liner that sank while carrying the elite people of the time. The ship in Robertson's story was called the Titan and the book was titled The Wreck of the Titan. Even though the book is fictitious, the events in the story parallel the events of the Titanic. Both ships were built to be unsinkable. Both ships sank after striking an iceberg. Both ships were on their maiden voyage. The most well to do famous people were on the Titan and Titanic. Only one third of the passengers on each ship survived. Both ships had an inadequate number of lifeboats. Both ships were encouraged to break speed records during their voyage.

Robertson's book The Wreck of the Titan was never published. Each time it was rejected by editor's, they told him the same thing. The story was unbelievable. Surely the events he wrote of could not possibly happen to an unsinkable ship.

The book, The Wreck of the Titan was written in 1898, fourteen years before the Titanic hit an iceberg and settled on the bottom of the northern Atlantic.
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#5. Morgan Robertson Writes About the Titanic... 14 Years Early

A hundred years before James Cameron turned douchebaggery into an art form at the Oscars, American author Morgan Robertson wrote a shitty book called Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan, about the sinking of an "unsinkable" ocean liner. When you see the cover, you figure you're pretty clearly looking at a fictionalized version of the Titanic story.

No surprise there; it's a story that's been told over and over (there were 13 Titanic movies before Cameron's, including one by the Nazis) but Robertson's book was first.

Where it Gets Weird:

He was so eager to be first, apparently, that he didn't bother to wait for the Titanic to actually sink before writing about it. The Wreck of the Titan was published in 1898, 14 years before RMS Titanic was even finished being [cheaply] built.

The similarities between Robertson's work and the Titanic disaster are so astounding that one has to imagine if White Star Line built Titanic to Robertson's specs as a dare. The Titan was described as "the largest craft afloat and the greatest of the works of men," "equal to that of a first class hotel," and, of course, "unsinkable".

Both ships were British-owned steel vessels, both around 800 feet long and sank after hitting an iceberg in the North Atlantic, in April, "around midnight." Sound like enough to keep you up at night? Maybe that's why Robertson republished the book in 1912 just in case enough people didn't know that he wrote it.

Where it Gets Even Weirder:

While the novel does bear some curious coincidences with the Titanic disaster, there are quite a few things that Robertson got flat wrong. For one, the Titanic did not crash into an iceberg "400 miles from Newfoundland" at 25 knots. It crashed into an iceberg 400 miles from Newfoundland at 22.5 knots.

Wait, what the f**k? That's one hell of a lucky guess!

But maybe the weirdest thing about Titan were points that had nothing to do with the story, but check out after numerous inquires and expeditions to the Titanic wreck site.

For one, both the Titan and the Titanic had too few lifeboats to accommodate every passenger on board; the Titan carrying "as few as the law allowed." While Robertson decided to be generous and include four lifeboats more on his ship than Titanic, it's an odd point to bring up when you consider that lifeboats had nothing to do with the f***ing story. When Titan hit the iceberg (starboard bow, naturally), the ship sank immediately, making the point made about lifeboats inconsequential. Why the f**k mention this?!

It'd be like HAL 9000 addressing the danger posed by O-rings at low temperature decades before the Challenger disaster.
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A conspiracy theory about how three powerful wealthy men who opposed the Federal Reserve Act were killed off in the Titanic:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/doug_titanic1.htm

Wow so maybe both conspiracies are true? They switched Titanic with Olympic for the insurance scam, and then killed off those three men who opposed the Federal Reserve Act as well, thus killing two birds with one stone? If so, then it was a brilliant crime. Beautifully executed.
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More weird stuff about the Titanic:

http://www.titanicuniverse.com/the-titanic-conspiracy

http://www.the-titanic.com/Titanic-Toda ... Stuff.aspx

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazi ... tanic.html

Here's a thought:

Perhaps the Illuminati need to do a major sacrifice ritual event every 30 years, to appease their deities or balance out some energy on the Earth, while inducing terror into the masses? Consider this:

1912 - Titanic sinking (Note: The Titanic was built in 1911, so there is "911" in that year too, how eerie)

1941 - Pearl Harbor

1970's - Vietnam War

2001 - 9/11

See the pattern? Every 30 years, there seems to be some kind of big sacrifice event. Is this a coincidence or a pattern? What do you think?
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but their biggest success is the conspiracy-conspiracy to keep brains occupied while they rule the world.
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Billy wrote:but their biggest success is the conspiracy-conspiracy to keep brains occupied while they rule the world.
Got to agree with Billy here.

I'm not buying this thread.

Many high-level Jesuits are conspirators, yes. But most high-level conspirators are not Jesuits. And unless I see evidence to the contrary, Titanic was the result of corporate greed, not conspiracy.

There ARE Satanic sacrifices, but victims are usually children, abused and killed in secret.
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The Titanic may have been swapped with the "Olympic" and the wrong ship was sunk! Also, bankers were killed so the remaining ones can start the Fed Reserve in 1913.
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I don't know if the Titanic was a conspiracy or not. But there are many suspicious things about it:

- Why did the captain of the Titanic order the ship to move at full speed through the waters at night with no visibility? Other ships in the area all slowed down, including the Californian. The captain was the most experienced and knew those waters very well too. Yet he acted against all logic.

- Why did the Californian not rescue the Titanic even though it was nearby? It was close enough to see its rocket flares fire, yet it left. Why did the Californian have no cargo or passengers, only sweaters and blankets? It was as if it was tagging along the Titanic to serve as a rescue ship, but something went wrong with the plan, or it was called off.

- Why was the Titanic story written about 14 years prior in 1898 and in various other articles as well? The word "Titan" was used for the ship in the story and it also sank 400 miles off Newfoundland, which happened in real life as well. Did the writer have a premonition, or did the conspirators borrow their idea from the book?

- How can ice break through metal? Isn't that physically impossible? How did it tear through five compartments so easily?

- How can the ship suddenly break apart while sinking? How can an unsinkable ship just break apart?

- Why did they call the Titanic "unsinkable"? No ship has been called that before. It seems as though they were setting it up to take a bigger fall by calling it "unsinkable".

- How come three powerful men who opposed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 just happened to die on the Titanic?

- Why did JP Morgan, the billionaire tycoon who owned the Titanic, suddenly cancel his voyage on the Titanic? Why would he do that unless he knew something or was warned? If it was just an accident, then how could he know anything or be warned about it?

- How come the Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic, just happened to suffer a big collision with the HMS Hawke the year before the Titanic disaster, rendering it damaged beyond repair, yet somehow it operated for many years afterward without a hitch? Could the Olympic and Titanic have been switched in a big insurance fraud scheme, since the Olympic was reportedly beyond repair and unable to qualify for insurance compensation?

Doesn't any of this raise an eyebrow? Aren't they suspicious?
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Winston wrote:I don't know if the Titanic was a conspiracy or not. But there are many suspicious things about it:

- Why did the captain of the Titanic order the ship to move at full speed through the waters at night with no visibility? Other ships in the area all slowed down, including the Californian. The captain was the most experienced and knew those waters very well too. Yet he acted against all logic.

- Why did the Californian not rescue the Titanic even though it was nearby? It was close enough to see its rocket flares fire, yet it left. Why did the Californian have no cargo or passengers, only sweaters and blankets? It was as if it was tagging along the Titanic to serve as a rescue ship, but something went wrong with the plan, or it was called off.

- Why was the Titanic story written about 14 years prior in 1898 and in various other articles as well? The word "Titan" was used for the ship in the story and it also sank 400 miles off Newfoundland, which happened in real life as well. Did the writer have a premonition, or did the conspirators borrow their idea from the book?

- How can ice break through metal? Isn't that physically impossible? How did it tear through five compartments so easily?

- How can the ship suddenly break apart while sinking? How can an unsinkable ship just break apart?

- Why did they call the Titanic "unsinkable"? No ship has been called that before. It seems as though they were setting it up to take a bigger fall by calling it "unsinkable".

- How come three powerful men who opposed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 just happened to die on the Titanic?

- Why did JP Morgan, the billionaire tycoon who owned the Titanic, suddenly cancel his voyage on the Titanic? Why would he do that unless he knew something or was warned? If it was just an accident, then how could he know anything or be warned about it?

- How come the Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic, just happened to suffer a big collision with the HMS Hawke the year before the Titanic disaster, rendering it damaged beyond repair, yet somehow it operated for many years afterward without a hitch? Could the Olympic and Titanic have been switched in a big insurance fraud scheme, since the Olympic was reportedly beyond repair and unable to qualify for insurance compensation?

Doesn't any of this raise an eyebrow? Aren't they suspicious?
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Teal Lantern wrote: Pick the 3 questions that are most pressing, I'll answer them.
All of them are pressing. Have you researched this subject? You can answer a few of them per day if you want.

Btw, check out these documentaries I found on the Titanic conspiracy. They are very interesting and present compelling points.



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The famous Titanic disaster of 1912 is not just a mere accident. When you investigate it, it's a lot stranger than you think. The Smithsonian Institute re-investigated the incident in their documentary "Titanic's Final Mystery":



They concluded that the Titanic did not have any design flaws nor was it made of lower quality materials, as some have suspected. It was made of the finest metal and rivets, and adhered to the highest safety standards. Its 16 compartments could be flooded in four compartments yet stay afloat. So it should have survived the collision with the iceberg. The collision should not have flooded five compartments.

The Titanic seemed to be set up in a "kill zone". As with the Brandon Lee incident, many improbable bad coincidences occurred at the same time to bring the tragedy forth. If even one of them had not happened, the whole thing would have been avoided. It seemed destined by the hand of fate, or God.

The Titanic incident never made any sense, because theoretically it should not have happened the way it did. Yet it was meant to, it seems. It's as if fate overrided logic and science that night.

What's even odder is that the Titanic sinking seems to have been predicted (precognition) 14 years earlier in precise detail in 1898 in Morgan Robertson's novel "Futility" in which the ship "The Titan" sunk in exactly the same way. Both the fictional ship Titan and the real Titanic shared the following similarities: They were the same size, carried very few lifeboats, was declared "unsinkable", hit an iceberg in April at around midnight 400 miles off of Newfoundland, etc.

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futility,_ ... _the_Titan
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/14/aut ... s-earlier/
http://io9.com/5900083/the-novella-that ... he-titanic
http://www.gettysburgghosts.net/titan.htm
http://www.cracked.com/article_18421_6- ... pened.html
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The Titanic Sinking - Rothschild and Rockefeller Conspiracy

In October 1910, a group of seven men, all senior players in the Rothschild and Rockefeller financial dynasties, met in strict secrecy on a private island off the coast of Georgia, USA. Their brief was to create an organisation to usurp the power to create and print money, until then solely a function of the US government. This organisation was to be named 'The Federal Reserve Bank'. This plan however, had several extremely powerful, high-profile opponents who stood in the way of these banker's goals.

In the meantime, John Pierpoint (JP) Morgan, another American high-financier, involved in the Federal Reserve scheme, who also happened to own the British-based White Star shipping line, had commissioned a series of 'super-liners', the Olympic class, in an attempt to gain the lion's share of the highly lucrative Atlantic-crossing market. The speculative investment involved in this project was immense.

However, in September 1911, before the second one of the planned three 'sisters', RMS Titanic had been completed, Morgan's plans were dealt a massive financial blow when RMS Olympic, the first of the 'sister' ships off the production line was involved in a disastrous collision with a Royal Navy cruiser, HMS Hawke.

And so, the scene was set for one of the greatest deceptions ever perpetrated... in the 100th anniversary year, John presents information and evidence that seriously questions the official account in the history books.

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I have to admit I believe everything I was taught as main line history is pretty much all wrong and the one worlder's have been at it for a while.
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Lets prove that Rothschilds are responsible for disappearance of MH370.

if in doubt just blame it on Rotschilds :lol:
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Scientists discover that an iceberg wasnt what sunk the Titanic after all, debunking the long-standing theory. I knew that an iceberg alone couldn't have sunk the Titanic. Especially since no ship has ever sunk from an iceberg ever before. It turns out i was right. See below. Btw murphys law was involved too.

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@hypermak I'd like to tell you something interesting about the Titanic that supports my theory about murphy's law and destiny and higher forces.

Did you know that it was later discovered that the Titanic struck the iceberg on the part of the hull that was previously WEAKENED by fire and never fully repaired? Had it struck the iceberg on any other part of the hull, it would not have sunk. That's why the incident was very unique, and no large ship has ever sunk after hitting an iceberg before, not even a wooden ship.

Furthermore, did you know that three men on board the Titanic were powerful men who would have vetoed the Federal Reserve Act in the Senate or Congress? And might have prevented the Federal Reserve central bank from being established? It seems very convenient that anyone who threatens the elite or the demiurge's control of our matrix, gets conveniently removed or taken out, sometimes by sheer luck. What are the odds?

Now some have suggested that the Titanic sinking was a conspiracy to get rid of those three men and to cash in on an insurance scam because the Olympic couldn't be repaired after two collisions, so they switched the Olympic and the Titanic ships. However, the problem here is that a team of men or conspirators cannot control so many variables. For example, they cannot control where exactly the Titanic would hit the iceberg, so it would be too hard to hit it at the weakest spot that was weakened by fire, even if the captain and navigator were in on the conspiracy. And the conspirators could not know if those three men would get off the Titanic in the lifeboats or not. They could have and survived. Also, they could not control whether the ship nearby, "The Californian", would have seen the rocket flares from the Titanic for help and gone to its rescue. If the captain and crew of the Californian had seen the flares and knew they were in trouble, then they might have rescued the Titanic and saved all the passengers, including the three powerful men who would have vetoed the Federal Reserve Act. But by some amazing bad luck, they did not see the rocket flares even though they were visible from where the Californian was.

So you see, there are too many factors and variables that a team of conspirators cannot control, even if the captain and navigator was in on the conspiracy. A team of men cannot control all those things. So this kind of thing had to have been the work of higher forces. If you study the event, you will see that a series of unlucky coincidences all came together to sink the Titanic. Had any one of those unlucky coincidences not happened, it would not have sunk. So it seemed to be a divine act of the gods. Nothing to do with free will or choice of humans.

Moreover, the Titanic seemed fated to happen. Several authors predicted it. For example, Morgan Roberts in his novel "Futility" predicted the Titanic disaster in stunning detail. The ship was even named "The Titan". And two other authors predicted it too. Also, just before the Titanic sank, many people reported having premonitions and nightmares about the disaster too, which is well documented. So it seems to have been destined.

Did you also know that the poet Edgar Allen Poe wrote a novel in which four men were stranded in a boat out at sea, and to prevent starving to death, they drew lots to see which one of them would be eaten by the other three? The one who was eaten was named Richard Parker in the novel. 40 years later, this exact event happened in real life, and the man who was eaten by the other three was named Richard Parker. What are the odds?

So you see, there seems to be a destiny that we cannot control. There are many examples.

Now if you watch the movie "Devil's Advocate" starring Al Pacino and Keanu Reeves, you will see that when the devil wants to get rid of someone who is a threat to him and his plans, he doesn't need to hire a team of assassins to kill that person or stage an accident. He can create a series of unlucky coincidences to happen to cause that person's death. You will see him do that in the movie. So dark forces don't need to hire men to take someone out, they can simply cause a series of unlucky coincidences in a domino effect to take someone out. Watch the movie and you will see examples of that.

Likewise, when Bruce Lee's son, Brandon Lee, was killed by a projectile from a 45 magnum handgun, that too was very unusual and the police ruled that it was caused by a series of unlucky coincidences too. Many think he was murdered, but that seemed more like a curse, because again, a team of assassins would have a hard time staging it because there are too many factors they cannot control. For example what if the props master had checked the gun before it was used? Then the plan would be foiled. Or what if the guy who shot him, Michael Masse, had followed protocol and did not point the gun at Brandon but instead away from him? Then the accident wouldn't have killed Brandon. You see what I mean? There were too many variables for a team of assassins to have had to control. So again, this appears to be dark forces or a curse that made a series of unlucky coincidences happen in a domino effect to take someone out.

Another interesting thing is that the name "Titan" is supposedly cursed, because it refers to the giants in the Book of Enoch that were an abomination to God and cursed. So anything with that name in it, like the Titanic, would be cursed by the gods.

Also, the gods seem to have a pattern of destroying any man made structure that is the "largest of its kind" and boasts about it. For example, the Tower of Babel story in the Bible in Genesis, when mankind tried to build a structure reaching into the heavens, but was destroyed by the gods or the Elohim (plural deities). Or the Hindenburg disaster, which was the largest man-made flying vessel. Or the Titanic. Or the World Trade Center. Etc. The gods seem to have a habit of bringing down anything that mankind boasts to be "the biggest" or "unsinkable" like the Titanic. The Titanic designers said "Not even God could sink her" remember? That invited the gods to teach them a lesson it seems.

Anyway hypermak, I just wanted you to consider all this as an example that higher forces and murphy's law and destiny does exist. This is one classic example that becomes apparent if you study the event deeply.
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