Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
Is this true?
Philosopher Stefan Molyneux talked about this in his video here:
The Truth About Slavery
Philosopher Stefan Molyneux talked about this in his video here:
The Truth About Slavery
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You've heard the song Rule Britannia, with the line "Britons never never never shall be slaves", right? The reason for that was that just a few hundred years ago during the Stewart dynasty it was common for fishermen fishing off the west coast of England and people in seaside villages to be kidnapped by Barbary pirates and sold into slavery in Africa. If was as a result of resentment of that situation that Britain acquired a big navy and became the world's naval police force, enforcing the death penalty for all acts of piracy on the high seas right up until the 1970s.
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It wasn't Africans involved in the Barbary slave trade of the 16th to 18th century, not the very dark negro type anyway. The Barbary slave trade was North-African traders enslaving white sailors and having them work themselves to death on huge row boats and plantations.
North-Africans like Algerians and Moroccans tend to be a lot lighter skinned and more Arab-looking then a Kenyan or Somali.
The black Africans primarily enslaved their own people. One tribe would conquer another and sell it's members into slavery. When the European slavers came to dark Africa, they did not have to capture their slaves half of the time, as one tribe would sell them members of another.
Slavery is very much a joint-process of many races working together to enslave their fellow man. You cannot blame "the white man" or "the black man" for it, or even the Arabs or the Romans. It's simply a practice as old as humanity itself and it does not have as much of a racial basis to it as people try to make it seem.
To claim White people are the main culprit of the slave trade is a ridiculous historical lie perpetuated by hateful bigots in a retarded game of "blame whitey". There's no accuracy to the claim, however.
North-Africans like Algerians and Moroccans tend to be a lot lighter skinned and more Arab-looking then a Kenyan or Somali.
The black Africans primarily enslaved their own people. One tribe would conquer another and sell it's members into slavery. When the European slavers came to dark Africa, they did not have to capture their slaves half of the time, as one tribe would sell them members of another.
Slavery is very much a joint-process of many races working together to enslave their fellow man. You cannot blame "the white man" or "the black man" for it, or even the Arabs or the Romans. It's simply a practice as old as humanity itself and it does not have as much of a racial basis to it as people try to make it seem.
To claim White people are the main culprit of the slave trade is a ridiculous historical lie perpetuated by hateful bigots in a retarded game of "blame whitey". There's no accuracy to the claim, however.
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I've never heard about this before. How come? Why hasn't Hollywood made any movies about it? Or the History Channel made any documentaries about it?
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Because Hollywood usually does not go against the current, or think outside the box. They typically do not challenge pre-consisting beliefs as it is much easier to just 'go with the flow'. It takes a certain sense of bravery to dare think for yourself. When billions of dollars of potential profits are involved, Hollywood producers will not take any risks.Winston wrote:I've never heard about this before. How come? Why hasn't Hollywood made any movies about it? Or the History Channel made any documentaries about it?
To claim Africans and Arabs are just as guilty of slave trade as white people would be seen as some as "racist", as to politically correct people, any fact that goes against their little bubble is immediately shot down as "racist!".
People are probably too used to seeing White people as villainous, and non-white people as oppressed. There's a black history month but no white history month after all, something even Morgan Freeman has challenged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s&feature=kp
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White people were actually the first to recognize that slavery is wrong and try to end it.
"While slavery was common to all civilizations, as well as to peoples considered uncivilized, only one civilization developed a moral revulsion against it, very late in its history- Western civilization. Today it seems obvious that, as Abraham Lincoln said, 'If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.' But the hard fact is that, for thousands of years, slavery was simply not an issue, even among the great religious thinkers or moral philosophers of civilizations around the world."
-Thomas Sowell
Why are there so many people that love to slam America and whitey on this board? Probably because they've grown up being fed some politically correct narrative about white on black racism and slavery. They've grown up being taught to blame whitey and play the race card. They may move abroad but that's one part of their American upbringing that many don't seem to leave behind.
"While slavery was common to all civilizations, as well as to peoples considered uncivilized, only one civilization developed a moral revulsion against it, very late in its history- Western civilization. Today it seems obvious that, as Abraham Lincoln said, 'If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.' But the hard fact is that, for thousands of years, slavery was simply not an issue, even among the great religious thinkers or moral philosophers of civilizations around the world."
-Thomas Sowell
Why are there so many people that love to slam America and whitey on this board? Probably because they've grown up being fed some politically correct narrative about white on black racism and slavery. They've grown up being taught to blame whitey and play the race card. They may move abroad but that's one part of their American upbringing that many don't seem to leave behind.
Re: Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
One of the early wars that the US fought was with the Barbary pirates, back during the Jefferson era. That's where the latter part of this line from the song about the Marines comes from, 'From the halls of Montezuma to the shorts of Tripoli'.
Re: Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
+1MarcosZeitola wrote:Slavery is very much a joint-process of many races working together to enslave their fellow man. You cannot blame "the white man" or "the black man" for it, or even the Arabs or the Romans. It's simply a practice as old as humanity itself and it does not have as much of a racial basis to it as people try to make it seem.
To claim White people are the main culprit of the slave trade is a ridiculous historical lie perpetuated by hateful bigots in a retarded game of "blame whitey". There's no accuracy to the claim, however.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Forgive me if i don'ts see the rhetorical/sarcastic part on that.Winston wrote:Why hasn't Hollywood made any movies about it? Or the History Channel made any documentaries about it?
You consider yourself open-mined and independent Winston, but seem to reference the History Channel quite a bit. That channel is a joke, only saved by some of its science/industry shows.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
Re: Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
I've heard things like that. I don't believe that slavery is as old as the human race, though.
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Winston wrote:I've never heard about this before. How come? Why hasn't Hollywood made any movies about it? Or the History Channel made any documentaries about it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOPYiG_FOe4
Re: Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
Enslavement of Europeans by Africans was almost exclusively done by North Africans not Black Africans, first by Moors then by the Barbary pirates. The vast majority of slaves in North Africa and the Middle East were of Black African origin though, which contributed to the low levels of African admixture in the Middle East today especially in Arab Middle Easterners.
Re: Is it true that Black Africans owned White slaves?
you guys don't understand slavery in American history at all.
When americans went to Africa to get slaves, they only picked certain types of people. Some types of people are way too questioning and would be horrible to share a shower / bathtub with others (sharing the same bathroom like a college dorm ish.. is another way to understand someone while being perfectly safe - except for some extreme OCD germphobics and no I don't mean showering at the same bathroom at same time, gross). So then come the boats.
Thats why Black culture in America is the way it is. They knew that only certain types of people they have certain types of children. Some call this genetics, sure thats a oversimplified term.
What if the "wrong types" of Africans were picked as slaves? See, its pointless to ask that, because that never happened. What if it happened, then Native Americans wouldn't have been oppressed as it is today. And black culture may start to use more thinking (introverted thinking) and there would be a different kind of society that would be less racist than it is today.
But that never happened didn't it.
When americans went to Africa to get slaves, they only picked certain types of people. Some types of people are way too questioning and would be horrible to share a shower / bathtub with others (sharing the same bathroom like a college dorm ish.. is another way to understand someone while being perfectly safe - except for some extreme OCD germphobics and no I don't mean showering at the same bathroom at same time, gross). So then come the boats.
Thats why Black culture in America is the way it is. They knew that only certain types of people they have certain types of children. Some call this genetics, sure thats a oversimplified term.
What if the "wrong types" of Africans were picked as slaves? See, its pointless to ask that, because that never happened. What if it happened, then Native Americans wouldn't have been oppressed as it is today. And black culture may start to use more thinking (introverted thinking) and there would be a different kind of society that would be less racist than it is today.
But that never happened didn't it.
Then again, some people go all the way (cognitive dissonance/fallacy of incomplete evidence).
Eat dates.
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Eat dates.
The problem is iphones.
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