You're such a simple ignorant man. See above.Yohan wrote:Nonsense talk.BlackKnight wrote:... white people have no right to be outraged. Lets talk about the Taino genocide (1492-1518)
Sorry, but I am a white man from Europe and I do not feel any responsibility for any white people from Europe who killed Caribbean people over 500 years ago.
About the original inhabitants around 1500 in the Caribbean region, they were not only fighting against the white people, but also fighting against each other. There were many fightings between Indian tribes which took place without any white person involved.
Many Indians died of smallpox and other diseases which were harmless to white people from Europe, but deadly for the original Caribbean population because of missing immunity - it is reported in historical writings, that up to 90 percent of the original population in certain areas perished because of infections and not because of genocide.
Were these 'Taino' black people? Likely not, maybe Indians I guess. Sorry, but history of victims 500 years ago is no excuse for nowadays criminal behavior of black people in USA.
Yes, I think, any honest person has the right to be outraged against criminals regardless their race.
Of course white people have the right to be outraged, if a black individual or group of black people justify their criminal activity with 'racism' against them.
About this thread and the original topic, there is no excuse for showing up with a handgun and to kill two people and and injure another woman. What has this to do with race?
When Columbus and his sailors came ashore, carrying swords, speaking oddly, the Arawaks ran to greet them, brought them food, water, gifts. He later wrote of this in his log:About the original inhabitants around 1500 in the Caribbean region, they were not only fighting against the white people, but also fighting against each other. There were many fightings between Indian tribes which took place without any white person involved.
They ... brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned... They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features.... They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane... . They would make fine servants.
The Indians, Columbus reported, "are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone...." He concluded his report by asking for a little help from their Majesties, and in return he would bring them from his next voyage "as much gold as they need ... and as many slaves as they ask." He was full of religious talk: "Thus the eternal God, our Lord, gives victory to those who follow His way over apparent impossibilities."
European culture has been rotten/evil since it began.
These Arawaks of the Bahama Islands were much like Indians on the mainland, who were remarkable (European observers were to say again and again) for their hospitality, their belief in sharing. These traits did not stand out in the Europe of the Renaissance, dominated as it was by the religion of popes, the government of kings, the frenzy for money that marked Western civilization and its first messenger to the Americas, Christopher Columbus.
From Christopher Columbus base on Haiti, Columbus sent expedition after expedition into the interior. They found no gold fields, but had to fill up the ships returning to Spain with some kind of dividend. In the year 1495, they went on a great slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred Arawak men, women, and children, put them in pens guarded by Spaniards and dogs, then picked the five hundred best specimens to load onto ships. Of those five hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon of the town.
In the province of Cicao on Haiti, where he and his men imagined huge gold fields to exist, they ordered all persons fourteen years or older to collect a certain quantity of gold every three months. When they brought it, they were given copper tokens to hang around their necks. Indians found without a copper token had their hands cut off and bled to death.
The Indians had been given an impossible task. The only gold around was bits of dust garnered from the streams. So they fled, were hunted down with dogs, and were killed.
Trying to put together an army of resistance, the Arawaks faced Spaniards who had armor, muskets, swords, horses. When the Spaniards took prisoners they hanged them or burned them to death. Among the Arawaks, mass suicides began, with cassava poison. Infants were killed to save them from the Spaniards. In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead.
When it became clear that there was no gold left, the Indians were taken as slave labor on huge estates, known later as encomiendas. They were worked at a ferocious pace, and died by the thousands. By the year 1515, there were perhaps fifty thousand Indians left. By 1550, there were five hundred. A report of the year 1650 shows none of the original Arawaks or their descendants left on the island.
Wtf are you talking about slave? Just 60 year ago the civil rights movement happen. You know why? see:Sorry, but history of victims 500 years ago is no excuse for nowadays criminal behavior of black people in USA.
